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Empoleon_master said:
I...I missed that post, I am fail.
Also I'll clear it up, my theory will only be revealed when more than 2 people have been shown to have mega stones. And even when it's revealed it's a long shot.

*cough cough cracking like a walnut* #someone needs a rawst berry
Notice how the second he has SOME pressure go away from him he INSTANTLY starts a list of people who could be suspect?
Also nothing you have said so far has explained my other 2 points. 1 jumping in slightly on the anti me band wagon, then jumping off of it and defending me when you realized that with the trust you've gained you could lead the rest of us to lynching a team aqua member thus either allowing you to eliminate another town member or a team aqua member thus reducing either side's numbers further. 2 It still does not explain your alleged big amount of abilities, which you have not even made a safe claim for, which I suspect you will make up now/quote bbninja's safe claim that he gave you.
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Making lists is what I always do here, I find it a good way to clear our heads and think better who should we lynch.
The list contains me so by doing it I am certainly not avoiding anything.
My "defense" on you was because I really didn't understand how would you fake it and how your over reaction is just how you always post. I simply wanted someone to answer me and instead of answering me, guess what? everyone got down from you because they probably understand by themselves that the case is pretty weak.
As for my third ability, I will probably claim it only if there will be much more votes than now. I really don't want to though.
Checking back, Celever did write "Later" and not Tomorrow" so sorry I got confused. Is that suppose to have a point?
 
What's making this hard is that it's only a hand full of people contributing and a majority being inactive which causing us to try and create something that's not already been looked at.
 
Vote Count - Day 3

Valid through: Post 1163

Vom: 0 (Celever (949), Squirtle Squad (1015), SilverSilent (1017))
Ice Espeon: 1 (SilverSilent (953), scattered mind (954), simsands (1037))
Celever: 0 (scattered mind (961), Squirtle Squad (973))
scattered mind: 2 (Celever (988), Empoleon_master (1137), Celever (1141))
Reinforce: 1 (TwistedTurtwig (1009), Squirtle Squad (1027), scattered mind (1028))
Empoleon_master: 3 (Reinforce (1036), thegrovylekid (1062), Vom (1082), Squirtle Squad (1084), SilverSilent (1108), Celever (1111))

Not voting: 6 (Ice Espeon, Keeper of Night, Cypher333, scattered mind, SilverSilent, Squirtle Squad)

Day Ends: ~22.5 hours

Vote manipulations, if any, are shown in vote counts.
 
scattered mind said:
Making lists is what I always do here, I find it a good way to clear our heads and think better who should we lynch.
The list contains me so by doing it I am certainly not avoiding anything.
My "defense" on you was because I really didn't understand how would you fake it and how your over reaction is just how you always post. I simply wanted someone to answer me and instead of answering me, guess what? everyone got down from you because they probably understand by themselves that the case is pretty weak.
As for my third ability, I will probably claim it only if there will be much more votes than now. I really don't want to though.
Checking back, Celever did write "Later" and not Tomorrow" so sorry I got confused. Is that suppose to have a point?
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Look at what I just bolded people. Now to the real case, let's look at WHERE and WHY he would put himself in that position, (btw I deny his defense of making the list as it was still timed too perfectly.)
scattered mind said:
EM's off the list and TGK is assumed town atm with TT being his claimed mason so that is narrowing our list for today:

SS
SS2
SM
RF
KoN
Vom

As for EM blaming me for bbninjas probably mistake of not putting me in the D1 final vote count after I had clearly voted for luis or what does it have to do with anything, I really don't know what to say, Celever's vote on me is super weird because of "oh that doesn't mean he is scum if he didn't vote... wait, he did vote? oh so THAT means he is scum" come on...
Add SS' blaming me for PMJ's vote on me yesteday and you get: You are searching for reasons to lynch me, move on.
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His position is high enough to warrant the current suspicion level, YET he still claims that SS2 of all people is above him in likelihood of being scum as he's already claimed his role with the full ranger ability etc. and he's just far down enough to put him right near a "maybe" position on likelihood of scum, it's too freaking perfect. I call scum!
 
Empoleon_master said:
Look at what I just bolded people. Now to the real case, let's look at WHERE and WHY he would put himself in that position, (btw I deny his defense of making the list as it was still timed too perfectly.)

His position is high enough to warrant the current suspicion level, YET he still claims that SS2 of all people is above him in likelihood of being scum as he's already claimed his role with the full ranger ability etc. and he's just far down enough to put him right near a "maybe" position on likelihood of scum, it's too freaking perfect. I call scum!
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The list is has no order of who is more suspicious, I already said how SS looks to be one of the least scummy players and he is my first suspect?
EM, you're really trying hard to lynch me with no real case.
 
scattered mind said:
The list is has no order of who is more suspicious, I already said how SS looks to be one of the least scummy players and he is my first suspect?
EM, you're really trying hard to lynch me with no real case.
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The case is really obvious, besides you claimed to have massive amounts of powers and you could still be maxie and use a safe claim to hide those powers, we already have a power role claim from someone that's not you or TGK, it just doesn't add up with the perfect timing of the list at the very least.
 
Empoleon_master said:
The case is really obvious, besides you claimed to have massive amounts of powers and you could still be maxie and use a safe claim to hide those powers, we already have a power role claim from someone that's not you or TGK, it just doesn't add up with the perfect timing of the list at the very least.
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There is not only 2 power roles in a game.
I refuse to keep defending myself without contributing or at least try to contribute. (The list doesn't give a lead but I believe it is still helpful, if it's annoying anyone I will stop and just write it to myself).
 
scattered mind said:
There is not only 2 power roles in a game.
I refuse to keep defending myself without contributing or at least try to contribute. (The list doesn't give a lead but I believe it is still helpful, if it's annoying anyone I will stop and just write it to myself).
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I know that, which is why there are likely 4 in the game, 2 for the teams via maxie and archie, 2 for Town, the town's power roles have already been claimed.
And I would not suspect the list as being a lead had it come out later in the game, ie a few hours after my claims against you had been made.
I gtg now sleep, bye everyone.
 
Empoleon_master said:
I know that, which is why there are likely 4 in the game, 2 for the teams via maxie and archie, 2 for Town, the town's power roles have already been claimed.
And I would not suspect the list as being a lead had it come out later in the game, ie a few hours after my claims against you had been made.
I gtg now sleep, bye everyone.
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I was only referring to the Town in a game.
I don't make calculations when to post my thoughts. I wanted to post that list even before that but instead had to answer your questions first.
 
@Ice Espeon - In case this is some kind of a trap ability to get my agreement in thread and then to be able to give it to me- I hereby refuse for your "gift".
If you still want to give it only to me I guess you will do that. Sorry for the over paranoia but I can't explain why you are ignoring me and simsands posts about you giving the item to tgk.
 
scattered mind said:
@Ice Espeon - In case this is some kind of a trap ability to get my agreement in thread and then to be able to give it to me- I hereby refuse for your "gift".
If you still want to give it only to me I guess you will do that. Sorry for the over paranoia but I can't explain why you are ignoring me and simsands posts about you giving the item to tgk.
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Ok that's basically taunting me with the ok since I'm now "evil/a trap I don't want this anymore!" Also tgk is the most town player we have atm.
 
Empoleon_master said:
Ok that's basically taunting me with the ok since I'm now "evil/a trap I don't want this anymore!" Also tgk is the most town player we have atm.
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It's not my idea. simsands wants Ice Espeon to give the item to tgk since he think he is least scummy. I didn't mind that so I said to IE to send the item to tgk instead of me.
Since IE doesn't answer this and 2 more posts of mine trying to get his attention, I believe he doesn't want to give the item to anyone other than me. If that is the case, it might be a trap, I only did this because of my over paranoia in this game. IE can still give the item to me.
 
I'm fine giving the item to anybody who I believe to be town. That also reduces the chances of someone stealing the item from me or the person I give it to.

Of the players left alive, here are my thoughts:
  1. Reinforce - Very possibly scum. Defended himself but not entirely convincing imo.
  2. thegrovylekid - Probably town and the mason thing probably secures TT as being town.
  3. Celever - Willing to believe he and Cypher are town for now after their flavour information.
  4. Squirtle Squad - Hinted at Wallace and I'm inclined to think that this is town SS.
  5. Vom - Not sure about Vom, tbh. Slightly hard to read as he was modkilled in the last two games for inactivity. However, both of those times he was scum so perhaps activity now indicates that he isn't?
  6. Keeper of Night - Another one I'm not sure about either way at this stage, really.
  7. scattered mind - I don't think he'd be doing this much to aid the town if he was scum. Playing similarly to last game.
  8. simsands - I'm leaning town but not sure.
  9. Cypher333 - See Celever
  10. TwistedTurtwig - See TGK
  11. SilverSilent - Still not entirely convinced by his claim at the moment.
  12. Ice Espeon - Strong town vibes to me ( :p )
  13. Empoleon_master - Seems pretty dodgy with the Crobat+Skarmory situation. In my opinion he should have been modkilled for posting something that the GM specifically asks not to be posted. Perhaps the hesitancy to modkill suggests something about his alignment? At the moment I think he's the one we should lynch. EM, why did you ask bbninjas about QuickTopics?
##VOTE: Empoleon_master

With the likelihood being that there are four scum members left, I would go with Keeper, Reinforce, EM + one other, probably SilverSilent.

Things that now become seriously unlikely - TT or TGK / Cypher or Celever being the last member of team Magma.
 
Ice Espeon said:
I'm fine giving the item to anybody who I believe to be town. That also reduces the chances of someone stealing the item from me or the person I give it to.

Of the players left alive, here are my thoughts:
  1. Reinforce - Very possibly scum. Defended himself but not entirely convincing imo.
  2. thegrovylekid - Probably town and the mason thing probably secures TT as being town.
  3. Celever - Willing to believe he and Cypher are town for now after their flavour information.
  4. Squirtle Squad - Hinted at Wallace and I'm inclined to think that this is town SS.
  5. Vom - Not sure about Vom, tbh. Slightly hard to read as he was modkilled in the last two games for inactivity. However, both of those times he was scum so perhaps activity now indicates that he isn't?
  6. Keeper of Night - Another one I'm not sure about either way at this stage, really.
  7. scattered mind - I don't think he'd be doing this much to aid the town if he was scum. Playing similarly to last game.
  8. simsands - I'm leaning town but not sure.
  9. Cypher333 - See Celever
  10. TwistedTurtwig - See TGK
  11. SilverSilent - Still not entirely convinced by his claim at the moment.
  12. Ice Espeon - Strong town vibes to me ( :p )
  13. Empoleon_master - Seems pretty dodgy with the Crobat+Skarmory situation. In my opinion he should have been modkilled for posting something that the GM specifically asks not to be posted. Perhaps the hesitancy to modkill suggests something about his alignment? At the moment I think he's the one we should lynch. EM, why did you ask bbninjas about QuickTopics?
##VOTE: Empoleon_master

With the likelihood being that there are four scum members left, I would go with Keeper, Reinforce, EM + one other, probably SilverSilent.

Things that now become seriously unlikely - TT or TGK / Cypher or Celever being the last member of team Magma.
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I took off the ones you don't suspect atm:
  1. Reinforce - Yes he defended himself with not much convincing words but then again the case itself was kinda weak. Still can be scum. It's just hard for me to read
  2. Vom - Maybe but he is not active in this game. Barely post. So, maybe he is scum this time too?
  3. Keeper of Night - I'm not sure about him too.
  4. simsands - He seems town to me too atm, maybe it would be good to check his posts to get something.
  5. SilverSilent - Do you also find it weird that he claimed to target Luis again? I mean I know he can use his Pokemon only on dead players and that the other dead players were town at that moment but still, why not looking into them to find something that would help to confirm or not living players claims? (maybe PMJ and GG had their third ability hidden, I wouldn't be surprised if my third ability were hidden upon flip).
  6. Empoleon_master - Idk, again, how can he fake that conversation? He acted very scummy with blasting all that info after few votes. Yet, I don't understand if it's really logical that he faked it. Seems weird. That forbidden posting is also a thing. I don't want to ask tgk about anything related to that though since it's not fare for the sake of the game.
 
With Reinforce (and Keeper), by sheer numbers and that we can assume that there are at least 4 scum players left, by the amount of other people that have been cleared/claimed reasonable town roles, I'm more inclined to believe he is scum unless he shows otherwise. I'm sure at least two or three of the remaining scum players are on that list you just posted up there. That's a good point with SilverSilent, forgot about that one. Also good point with Vom. With EM, although he probably didn't fake the conversation, there is nothing in that conversation that for me clears him. He asked about QTs seemingly out of nowhere, which possibly hints that his role contained a QT.
 
Empoleon_master said:
I know that, which is why there are likely 4 in the game, 2 for the teams via maxie and archie, 2 for Town, the town's power roles have already been claimed.
And I would not suspect the list as being a lead had it come out later in the game, ie a few hours after my claims against you had been made.
I gtg now sleep, bye everyone.
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Why do you think each team has two Pokemon which can mega-evolve? Two members of Team Magma are dead already and their two Pokemon were Torkoal and Ninetails, neither of which can mega-evolve. Furthermore, Blaziken has a mega-evolution and they didn't actually start on anyone's roles, so that could have thrown things off balance majorly if one of the mafia members got it.
 
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