@Celever ... please stop the RPing, it's /really/ annoying, especially after having to read 10 pages of it x_x
Besides, like some have already said, it's driving away from discussion and we may have to policy lynch instead of suspicion lynch because of it, and I'd really rather lynch people based on suspicion/slips rather than RPing.
Yup yup! IT SURE IS."Golly, this sure is annoying, yup yup!"
...didn't feel like reading all of your posts that were crowded with bits of "yup yup" "golly" and the like. Gets really, really annoying.
The point is, we're here to play werewolf. Werewolf. Mafia. Not a role-playing PMD game. And this is the last time I will say anything on the matter, because the simple fact that you have to keep arguing about why we should keep RP around is ridiculous and, ultimately, wrong.
Let's get back to playing the game then.
I'd like to know why Luis chose to vote for tgk over Celever as the two main role players. Although, Luis voted for Celever later on, so I think this is a neutral vote.
Please do now. And I don't mean this:Celever's "playstyle" is WIFOM. Don't use that as a reason not to suspect him. I'll make a more detailed post later.
Let me direct everyone's attention to the area I bolded. So is almost everyone else in here, including you, Camo! It's day one, what do you expect from people? Perfect reads? From both what I've heard from everyone else AND from what I've seen, all you DO is push on things that make no sense.Celever is pushing on things that make no sense. First my "scumslip" then KoN's. Unless he can explain his reasoning in a way that makes sense there is no reason not to be voting him. This is a great lynch day one.
Please be sure to make it clear what's opinion and what's fact. Saying what you meant there ("I agree with more of Camo's points") changes what you said entirely. After all, whether Camo or I is making better points is subjective, an example showing this can be found below (where simsands says I'm making better points than I'm being given credit for).I would like to point out that Camo makes more sense than Celever makes sense in regards to who to lynch, which is at least a start on Day 1.
I feel like at least one of the oppressors (Camo, Luis, KoN) are also scum. I'm pretty sure one of them would have posted in a scum QT saying "hey guys, there's a real opportunity to make them fail at Day 1 if we set up an argument here!".Though, he's definitely not playing overly well for a townie, even if some points he's making are better than you guys are giving him credit for.
What was KoN's scumslip? I've never claimed that KoN has slipped.Celever is pushing on things that make no sense. First my "scumslip" then KoN's. Unless he can explain his reasoning in a way that makes sense there is no reason not to be voting him. This is a great lynch day one.
That's fair. Restated; I feel like Camo is making much more sense than Celever.Please be sure to make it clear what's opinion and what's fact. Saying what you meant there ("I agree with more of Camo's points") changes what you said entirely. After all, whether Camo or I is making better points is subjective, an example showing this can be found below (where simsands says I'm making better points than I'm being given credit for).
Are you saying you want me to post mindless banter?Bb has been a lot quieter than the usual active self that he is, though I can't vouch for his real life schedule
for the sake of voting:
##AussieAssault: @bbninjas
In the games, Bidoof always says "yup, yup" at the end of his sentences. I assume that is where TGK made the connection (I personally did myself when I read it). Shoutout to Athena's PMD Playthrough for that knowledge.
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I don't think that anyone who has shut down RP is scum because they shut down RP. I think that there is scum among the three I mentioned (Camo, KoN and Luis) because they instigated an argument, using the RP as an excuse to do so.Those saying that the people shutting down role playing are scum are wrong, it's hardly Scummy.
This is incredibly flawed logic and one which I can mainly see a scum thinking of. Assessing every role name to figure out whether it would be a good safeclaim or not doesn't make any sense, since the host will intentionally put strong town characters and weaker town characters on both factions. Plus, who would you have not said was a good safe claim? Chatot, Wigglytuff, any other guild members (those that come to head being Sunflora, Chimecho, Corphish, Croagunk, Loudred, Diglett) and even some townspeople like Ursaring and Kecleon would all be totally ideal for a safe claim. As such, I think possibly two of these characters will be safeclaims for the scum, the rest are town. Then the scum will have one or two new made up characters as safeclaims and then one townsmember (assuming a scum size of 5, which seems sensible to me). Speculation about safeclaims is pointless right now, anyway.Ugh. I hate being gone for the day on Day 1. So many pages to get through. >_<
Anyway, I mostly skim-read it; I'll go back and reread it in more detail later, but for now, here's what I have to comment.
As annoying as Camo's playstyle may be to deal with, he almost always gets us somewhere on D1, and usually a bit further. I don't fully agree with being that aggressive (at least, it's not a playstyle I could ever see myself using), but it's helpful. Everyone who has played at least one game with Camo, you should know this.
That said, everyone who's voting Camo on D1 and has played at least one game before that also included Camo, I'm keeping note of who you are.
Also, ##VOTE: Celever. Bidoof's a perfect safeclaim; he's like the towniest NPC (from what I understand of PMD) in the game. You're claiming that way too early; it's too good a claim to be real, and your hastiness to claim makes it even worse.
And also, please stop the RP'ing, although that's already been said. I saw no problem with it when we were signing up and before N0, but vectorised avatars should be enough for everyone.
I already addressed this. I was intending on hinting strongly at the role and having fun through imitating Bidoof's dialect (which is apparently a criminal offence given the countless cases against me that have stemmed from it). I just accidentally said *Bidoof does x* instead of *I do x* and townslipped . It happens to the, uh, worst of us :\So we can say that TGK is probably town if Celever will be lynched and flip scum. I don't see a reason for TGK to reveal his scum buddy.
Celever's flipped his role not once but 3 times in different posts not to mention all the "yup yup" content which after bb's post I understand that it is connected to the PMD Bidoof.
Such a mistake is weird and I can't see if it can tell Celever is scum or not. Mostly because he did a similar mistake last game.
@scattered mind, this is a wholly serious post now. What did you mean in this post? At the time, I thought you meant my accidentally claiming Bidoof, and I still suspect that's what you were referring to. As such, all these questions about what happened with my claiming is either dumbtelling or following orders from your QT to try and incarcerate me, both of which would mean you're mafia. Care to explain?If a player "townslip" by his RP, another can scumslip by his RP. In other words, there is no impact on the game whatsoever as every player can scumslip, accidentally reveal his/her role or appear scummy, regardless of said player being roleplaying or not. If someone's going to scumslip and tell it is part of his/her roleplay, I am not going to believe him as you cannot control on what you slip and determent that you only slip things when you are not roleplaying.
I don't understand a word of it, there are much votes on celever but he said that he is Bidoof. And Bidoof is a good guy in the game, am i right?
This post bothers me. Camo's first vote was indeed on dos, but replying like this... well, it just seems quite weird. A random vote that changed within two posts should bring up a joke response, a single-word response, no response... but not this. "No, I'm town and you're scummy for voting me"? For an obviously random vote that lasted two posts?Also Camoclone you're first "random vote" was on a town player and so was it last game so I'm currently suspicious of you more than others.
@scattered mind, this is a wholly serious post now. What did you mean in this post? At the time, I thought you meant my accidentally claiming Bidoof, and I still suspect that's what you were referring to. As such, all these questions about what happened with my claiming is either dumbtelling or following orders from your QT to try and incarcerate me, both of which would mean you're mafia. Care to explain?