Finished Werewolf XXXI: Grima's Rebirth - GAME OVER! TOWN WINS!
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Oh good, whenever Camo kicks off an argument, discussion totally dies. This is what I was trying to avoid ;~;
It's important for all players in this game rn to makes a readslist rn. There are a few players who I think are probably anti-town at this stage (scattered mind, bb, Prof P, KX) but I don't know where any of the rest of the game stands on these players, so I can't tell who would be a good player to build a case on etc. etc..
It's important for all players in this game rn to makes a readslist rn. There are a few players who I think are probably anti-town at this stage (scattered mind, bb, Prof P, KX) but I don't know where any of the rest of the game stands on these players, so I can't tell who would be a good player to build a case on etc. etc..
@Ice Espeon- Town, if only because of EM's Flip and softclear
@Celever- Neutral with a slight tilt towards scum because of dodging Camo's questions
@thegrovylekid - If you asked me for his faction and role right now, I'd say Town and Anna
@PMJ-I'm definitely getting good townie vibes from him, but I'm not completely convinced yet
@Professor Palutena- I'm neutral on him. There hasn't been much drama involving him, so he's mainly in the background right now
@Jabberwock- Neutral. He hasn't really done much so far, and he really only posts the bare minimum
@Camoclone- I can't really get a read on him right now with his Camoposting, but if Reinforce is to be believed, he is a townie
@King Xerneas- See Camo, but replace Camopsting with inactivity
@Vracken-Neutral, but I have a suspicion of him being scum. He hasn't done much, and when he does, it's usually only about the flavor, which can distract town from finding scum.
@Luispipe8-Neutral, leaning town. The only thing we can confirm for sure is that he isn't the announcer, but he has contributed to discussions, so he gets my pass.
@bbninjas- I'm seeing bb as a townie right now because of the lie detector ability, but I could also see an unlikely scenario were bb and Reinforce are scum, and
Reinforce actually seered simsands N0 instead of bb
@scattered mind-Despite not posting often, SM comes off as town to me, as he is for discussion right now, instead of dodging questions
@Reinforce- See bbninjas read above, but replace lie detector with seer
@mordacazir- Soft town, due to the "Friends with Wyverns" results, heavily implying that he's Cherche
@quakingpunch73- Me!
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I'm going to be busy for most of today, but I'll see what I can get done in the little time I have.
Would you post a case on scattered mind? I don't see anything too obviously scummy there. I'll look in depth when I get a chance to.
If I could lynch anyone right now it would be Reinforce. No one else seems like an obvious choice, but if you think that flavor means he really is lynchproof until someone else dies then I'll hold off
Would you post a case on scattered mind? I don't see anything too obviously scummy there. I'll look in depth when I get a chance to.
If I could lynch anyone right now it would be Reinforce. No one else seems like an obvious choice, but if you think that flavor means he really is lynchproof until someone else dies then I'll hold off
I think we should hold off on Reinforce right now, as we clearly can't lynch him, and we'd lose our lynch for the day if we tried. I think it would be a smart idea to track him with an ability or skill like "Friends of Wyverns", preferably a skill if it exists due to Limit Breaker, an item that lets you use a skill twice in one night.
Waiting for you guys. (including you @mordacazir )
Well. It seems like a big contradiction but I can see how it's not-
The contradiction is that you said PMJ started the turbo, then you said that you are the one who asked for the turbo and then said that a turbo never happened.
But- I think you meant PMJ started the lynch that was going to be a turbo (not calling it a turbo) then you asked for the lynch to be a turbo lynch, and that eventually the turbo never happened (=EM never got turbo lynched)
Have I got it right?
I also think that you have explained the safe-preservation issue very well so I don't see a reason to consider you a big lynch option for now. I still keep my eyes on you since your actions are weird. (voting for random players without presenting a case).
Can you explain for no-FE players what do you mean and what that possibility suppose to tell us? (like, if Cervantes is a scummy or a townie role name?)
Cervantes is one of Walhart, the leader of Valm (scum 2)'s generals. He is a General in the game, and is a secondary antagonist, mainly remembered for his moustache, which he believes makes him invincible. TGK believes that Cervantes' ability involves his moustache making him invincible (lynchproof).
I'll explain my theory if he can't produce results. If he does, then fine, my theory was debunked.
Yup, you're spot on with that, scattered!
I'll make a case on scattered in a while. I'm currently kind of light headed since there was a small fire in my house (whoops :U) and I inhaled a lot of smoke, so I need to lie down, lol.
Basically, my theory is "Friends with Wyverns" is actually a skill, and in that scenario, morda lied about his role.
@Celever I could say the inverse of that line of thinking can apply: Our minds are wired to accept the first and easiest conclusion to arrive to, out of instinct or desire to not waste time or energy to think deeper. Even the most crazy of theories can turn out to be true, I'm sure you know that from the Ace Attorney series
But anyway, if you're not going to be ever convinced by me, then okay, I won't force you. Though, uh, you sure don't mince your words, huh, saying that you'll have me killed the moment I outlive my usefulness. Oh well, I'll keep on sharing my results anyway, whether you intended to have me killed or not.
Oh, and thankfully Celever and Camo's argument didn't explode this thread to YPPY-game length.
I'm not saying they're confirmed for everyone, but to me they are, because I've asked the hosts and they said that I seer through safe claims. Unless there is a skill/ability/item that specifically counteracts, I've taken that to mean my seer results are genuine as they come.
Check my reply to scattered mind above for why.
Even if I was, it doesn't look like it's working that way, because my role and abilities and their results isn't enough to convince everyone. Then, there's the obvious that if I get lynched/or had gotten lynched, the players I seered would have been under intense scrutiny. That is a strategy that is often presented and sounds likely on paper, but in practice I have not seen it work very smoothly in other, previous games.
Is it really not possible for you to explain without him posting first?
Well, there's still time, as we're approaching the middle of Day, so I think it's still okay to wait for him a bit. There're timezones to account for, after all.
But anyway, if you're not going to be ever convinced by me, then okay, I won't force you. Though, uh, you sure don't mince your words, huh, saying that you'll have me killed the moment I outlive my usefulness. Oh well, I'll keep on sharing my results anyway, whether you intended to have me killed or not.
Oh, and thankfully Celever and Camo's argument didn't explode this thread to YPPY-game length.
I'm not saying they're confirmed for everyone, but to me they are, because I've asked the hosts and they said that I seer through safe claims. Unless there is a skill/ability/item that specifically counteracts, I've taken that to mean my seer results are genuine as they come.
Check my reply to scattered mind above for why.
Even if I was, it doesn't look like it's working that way, because my role and abilities and their results isn't enough to convince everyone. Then, there's the obvious that if I get lynched/or had gotten lynched, the players I seered would have been under intense scrutiny. That is a strategy that is often presented and sounds likely on paper, but in practice I have not seen it work very smoothly in other, previous games.
Is it really not possible for you to explain without him posting first?
Well, there's still time, as we're approaching the middle of Day, so I think it's still okay to wait for him a bit. There're timezones to account for, after all.
Cervantes is a general of Valm. He hasn't shaved since his first battle, and he hasn't lost a battle since he stopped shaving. Ergo, his moustache makes him invincible.
I would recommend Reinforce to use their seer ability on Celever since he's still very much against him. Plus we would see Celever get cleared or not.
Then a big question arises, who do we lynch today?
Also, @King Xerneas, after being soft cleared as townie, I think everyone kind off wants your reads right now, as we haven't gotten to see much of your opinions throughout the game.
Also - It seems like someone actually guided him to respond this comment- while also ignoring Camo's comment "Your vote".
@Vracken - Do you still have nothing to say about anything from today?
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