Finished Werewolf XXXI: Grima's Rebirth - GAME OVER! TOWN WINS!

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Luispipe8 said:
By now, I'm extremely surprised all of PMJ, Celever, bbninjas and Camoclone are alive. They're by far the scum's favorite targets and rarely go past D2 if town. I'm inclined to believe at least one of them is scum, though I'd have to dig into them a bit more.
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Well, actually, all of us besides PMJ ended up surviving to around this time in the last game.

Luispipe8 said:
I legitimately think Celever's hiding something and it's a good lynch... But maybe not right now. IDK, I feel there's something we're missing. I rather lynch someone else today. I still believe ninjas is not telling us something. 2 days have passed since the lie detector deal and given we've no reason to believe his ability is a one-use thing he should have been nk'd by either of the scum teams by now, or they risk another out on their team. I do, however, fail to see how a role like that can help a scum team and how many uses can be considered broken.
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I don't like this post. Luis sounds like he's wanting to leave the Celever option open but doesn't want to vote/pressure just yet. And my lie-detector is one shot.

scattered mind said:
So, @bbninjas - Why are you so sure they are confirmed?
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I'm at the moment wanting to believe Reinforce is town because something isn't lining up with the nightkiller theory. It also narrows down the list of players to look into by 4 (3 for me), which is nice.

Celever said:
My own personal theory is that bb could be RF's scumbuddy. Sometimes when you say something enough in-thread it becomes truth even if it's not because other players cba to check back. This isn't the first time bb has referred to himself as clean since RF's results, and I'm 99% sure I corrected him the other times too. This persistence reads scummily to me.
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I've been referring myself as clean? I don't remember doing that myself, but wtv.

quakingpunch73 said:
Reads Part 2/3
@Jabberwock- Neutral. He hasn't really done much so far, and he really only posts the bare minimum
@Luispipe8-Neutral, leaning town. The only thing we can confirm for sure is that he isn't the announcer, but he has contributed to discussions, so he gets my pass.
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Both of these sound nearly the same as the reads I read from someone quite recently (I can't remember who). The others seem to be fairly generic, except for TGK. That is somewhat odd.
 
Camoclone said:
It means that he wanted to live so he selfishly decided that the soft-town would have to pay the price.
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Loving the AtE. You can use AtE to incriminate, too.
Camoclone said:
I'll play this game. Answer these questions completely.
  1. Did PMJ start the turbo?
  2. Did you start the turbo?
  3. Why is it scummy that PMJ did not start the turbo but you pinned the blame on him anyways.
  4. Why did you say that PMJ started the turbo?
  5. Why should we not lynch you?
  6. Why do you refuse to answer questions?
  7. Explain why refusing to answer questions is scummy.
  8. Explain why you are wasting our time by not answering questions.
Failure to answer all the questions will result in something very bad happening to you.
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1. PMJ started the lynch.
2. A turbo never happened.
3. I didn't pin the blame on him. You're blowing things out of proportion and succumbing to assumptions.
4. PMJ started the lynch.
5. There are better options.
6. Give me quality questions and I'll answer them. You can't lynch someone over a disagreement lol.
7. It depends on the situation. If someone asks you "what is your role?" totally unprovoked then you're not going to give them the answer they're looking for, are you?
8. I've answered them; you may not be satisfied with the answers because you really want me to be scum right now, but I have answered them.

@bbninjas, that's a dope post, but you did miss the most important discussion point right now IMO. You agree with Camo or not?

@mordacazir, you really could have just posted it then. It's a quick c/p.
 
quakingpunch73 said:
@Vracken-Neutral, but I have a suspicion of him being scum. He hasn't done much, and when he does, it's usually only about the flavor, which can distract town from finding scum.
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Celever said:
Loving the AtE. You can use AtE to incriminate, too.

1. PMJ started the lynch.
2. A turbo never happened.
3. I didn't pin the blame on him. You're blowing things out of proportion and succumbing to assumptions.
4. PMJ started the lynch.
5. There are better options.
6. Give me quality questions and I'll answer them. You can't lynch someone over a disagreement lol.
7. It depends on the situation. If someone asks you "what is your role?" totally unprovoked then you're not going to give them the answer they're looking for, are you?
8. I've answered them; you may not be satisfied with the answers because you really want me to be scum right now, but I have answered them.

@bbninjas, that's a dope post, but you did miss the most important discussion point right now IMO. You agree with Camo or not?

@mordacazir, you really could have just posted it then. It's a quick c/p.
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Can you answer my question?

scattered mind said:
What do you mean by that?
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scattered mind said:
What do you mean by that?
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Self-preservation is the scenario that in the hypothetical situation that either you or another player is going to die at that point in time, you help put momentum under your rival's lynch. It's seen all the time in these games: when there are two clear lynch options in a given day, which is generally what happens on non-seer days, both lynch options will place a vote on the next likeliest lynch option. If a member of a faction dies, that faction loses out, irrelevant of what that faction is. This is self-preservation, and it's what Camo is arguing was a scummy thing for me to have done when I called for a lynch on EM yesterday.

He dropped this line of reasoning now, though, because I rebutted it well.
 
Celever said:
Loving the AtE. You can use AtE to incriminate, too.

1. PMJ started the lynch.
2. A turbo never happened.
3. I didn't pin the blame on him. You're blowing things out of proportion and succumbing to assumptions.
4. PMJ started the lynch.
5. There are better options.
6. Give me quality questions and I'll answer them. You can't lynch someone over a disagreement lol.
7. It depends on the situation. If someone asks you "what is your role?" totally unprovoked then you're not going to give them the answer they're looking for, are you?
8. I've answered them; you may not be satisfied with the answers because you really want me to be scum right now, but I have answered them.

@bbninjas, that's a dope post, but you did miss the most important discussion point right now IMO. You agree with Camo or not?

@mordacazir, you really could have just posted it then. It's a quick c/p.
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Did you or did you not ask for a turbo?
 
Nono, @scattered mind, all of those are true. Camo changed his question from "who tried to start a turbo?" into "who started the turbo?". I thought it was important to take a step back and remind everyone that a turbo never actually happened on EM. IIRC, EM had less votes when he died after I asked for a turbo than before it, lol.
 
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