Finished Werewolf XXXI: Grima's Rebirth - GAME OVER! TOWN WINS!

[bbninjas]

It's been proven reinforce is a seer so his results do have some truth to them.

Where?

 

[Celever]

Soft confo town is when the seer's alignment is ambiguous. Given that we have good objective reason to believe that RF is anti-town, there is no way we can actually trust his results.

No it's not. It's been proven reinforce is a seer so his results do have some truth to them. But we can't trust all of them until he flips. It's textbook soft town.

If we can't trust his results until he flips and he can't be lynched until his partner's dead, that means that he and his partner will endgame, and we will lose. It's better to disregard the results entirely for now until we have actual proof of anything later on.

 

[quakingpunch73]

Where?

You know, looking at you guys' posts makes me feel like you're already decided and anything I say from now on isn't going to change your mind @_@

But here it is anyways. I think the simplest way to explain would be to claim my role and the results I got from it.



And here are results:

N1


N2


Yes, I did try for GM_Draclord, because I suspected the private communication he had with simsands, but I got re-directed. I'm not sure how the mechanics of tracking/watching results would work, but I probably still "officially" targeted GM_Draclord... That's what I suppose, anyway.

As for the kill on GM_Draclord, I was thinking and about to post this (before I ended up on the chopping block instead), but the flavor of his kill got me curious. Specifically, the part where it said Walhart was supposed to be the killer, but instead it was someone else. If the theory that Walhart's killing ability wasn't passed onto his team because it wasn't stated as such in the ability/role can be considered (unlike in my game and other previous WW games), then it might be an indie kill. The OP did state we may have a third faction of Independents at work here, which could also give a possible explanation on why it couldn't be tracked/watched. I've seen before some indie kills that tend to be given special properties like that.

That's a couple of my theories, if you guys are still willing to read them and aren't trapped in the thought bubble that 'Reinforce is scum!' and got your minds closed to alternative possibilities already.

This is WIFOM and is only relevant if he continues to play a key role in the game up until like Day 6 or so.


Thanks for revealing who I am. What I don't understand is if a portal was used on me why did you get my role name?


It can be sofy confirmed.


I don't know FE. Can someone confirm this to be true based off the current flips we have?

After looking back through the posts, I found this, which could indicate one of 3 possibilities.

1. Reinforce is telling the truth, and Camo is backing him up

2.Reinforce is scum, and Camo is his scumbuddy trying to give his posts some credit

3.Reinforce is Scum, but he has the ability to be a seer, and Camo is, in fact, Lon'qu

 

[bbninjas]

^ I have backed up Reinforce's claim too. I don't recall KingX specifically mentioning it, but it is presumed that things match up.

If we can't trust his results until he flips and he can't be lynched until his partner's dead, that means that he and his partner will endgame, and we will lose. It's better to disregard the results entirely for now until we have actual proof of anything later on.

Where did you get this idea from? It's a bit of an overpowered role, it sounds like...

 

[quakingpunch73]

Soft confo town is when the seer's alignment is ambiguous. Given that we have good objective reason to believe that RF is anti-town, there is no way we can actually trust his results.

If we can't trust his results until he flips and he can't be lynched until his partner's dead, that means that he and his partner will endgame, and we will lose. It's better to disregard the results entirely for now until we have actual proof of anything later on.

You seem dead set that his partner(s?) need to be lynched/NK'ed first. It sounds like you know something and are hiding it.

 

[Celever]

That's the commonly accepted theory rn. If you disagree with it you should have aired your views when it was the topic of discussion earlier today.

 

[King Xerneas]

This is my role and ability. We already have soft-confirmed that Gaius exists.

So you were the one who stole my chest....

 

[bbninjas]

You seem dead set that his partner(s?) need to be lynched/NK'ed first. It sounds like you know something and are hiding it.

Hypocrisy is scummy.

That's the commonly accepted theory rn. If you disagree with it you should have aired your views when it was the topic of discussion earlier today.

Where did you get this idea from? It's a bit of an overpowered role, it sounds like...

I do recall some theory based on Reinforce being lynchproof until a certain player dies, but I didn't realise people were assuming it as a scum member. So, uh, could you explain why this is the opinion?

 

[quakingpunch73]

So you were the one who stole my chest....

Yeah. Sorry! You weren't soft-cleared yet, and you seemed like the best person to steal from at the time.

 

[Celever]

Hypocrisy is scummy.



I do recall some theory based on Reinforce being lynchproof until a certain player dies, but I didn't realise people were assuming it as a scum member. So, uh, could you explain why this is the opinion?

Because that was the commonly accepted theory. There was never any talk of it being anyone but RF's scumbuddy.

 

[PMJ]

Where?

quakingpunch covered this but I'll say you are the only person who I believe is actually town because of what's happened with your role. That's why I said Camo and KX were soft cleared which brings me to

Soft confo town is when the seer's alignment is ambiguous. Given that we have good objective reason to believe that RF is anti-town, there is no way we can actually trust his results.

If we can't trust his results until he flips and he can't be lynched until his partner's dead, that means that he and his partner will endgame, and we will lose. It's better to disregard the results entirely for now until we have actual proof of anything later on.

This is delving into wifom territory; let's just agree to disagree.

 

[thegrovylekid]

Just went back to check my Role PM, and mine didn't have Vom saying the word "Role" in the corner before my PM. Can someone else who is not quaking check theirs?

 

[Camoclone]

Just went back to check my Role PM, and mine didn't have Vom saying the word "Role" in the corner before my PM. Can someone else who is not quaking check theirs?

Confirming.

 

[quakingpunch73]

Just went back to check my Role PM, and mine didn't have Vom saying the word "Role" in the corner before my PM. Can someone else who is not quaking check theirs?

It was probably due to me being a sub. I fail to see how this affects gameplay. I just looked back at simsands' safe claim, and it doesn't have a "Role:" preceding it, so what makes you think that it makes my role anymore different than yours.

Simsands' claim for reference~

##VOTE: bbninjas

 

[PMJ]

I subbed in and had no such word at the top of my role pm.

 

[thegrovylekid]

It was probably due to me being a sub. I fail to see how this affects gameplay. I just looked back at simsands' safe claim, and it doesn't have a "Role:" preceding it, so what makes you think that it makes my role anymore different than yours.

I've seen people lynched because of a missing space in their role PM. Extra words or missing words attract suspicion.

 

[Keeper of Night]

GAME FREEZE

Final Vote Count:

• All names are in chronological order (both the voters and the voted). The number in parenthesis after a non-voter's name is the current vote total they have.
• The voters' names are in the brackets and the post they made that vote in is in parenthesis, you can click on it to go to that post.
• If the voter is struck out, it means they unvoted that player, you can click on the name to go to the post in which they unvoted (clicking on the post in parenthesis will still take you to the post in which they voted).
• The player whose name is tagged and followed by a number in parenthesis is the one with the most votes and is the one lynched.
• There are 17 players, so for the Day to end with a majority lynch, it would take 9 votes, unless there are any modifiers.
• The voter whose name is bolded and underlined is the one who hammered the lynch, if applicable.

Reinforce (0): [thegrovylekid (Vote)]

scattered mind (0): [Celever (Vote)] [bbninjas (Vote)] [quakingpunch73 (Vote)]

Celever (2): [Camoclone (Vote)] [Professor Palutena (Vote)] [PMJ (Vote)] [thegrovylekid (Vote)] [scattered mind (Vote)]

Mordacazir (5): [Professor Palutena (Vote)] [thegrovylekid (Vote)] [King Xerneas (Vote)] [quakingpunch (Vote)] [Jabberwock (Vote)] [bbninjas (Vote)] [Celever (Vote)]

Luispipe8 (0): [bbninjas (Vote)]

bbninjas (0): [Celever (Vote)]

quackingpunch73 (1): [thegrovylekid (Vote)]

@Jabberwock (6): [bbninjas (Vote)] [scattered mind (Vote)] [PMJ (Vote)] [quakingpunch73 (Vote)] [Camoclone (Vote)] [Reinforce (Vote)] - LYNCHED

Not Voting:
@Ice Espeon, @Vracken, @King Xerneas, @Luispipe8, @mordacazir

 

[Keeper of Night]

Night 4​

After a day full of discussion, the Fire Emblem mysteriously ended in Jabberwock's hands, after it was agreed that he was to be tested by Naga. The flames engulfed Jabberwock...to leave a familiar body behind...one with a mustache!

Spoiler: Body

You are Cervantes. One of Walhart’s officers in his army. You’d follow your leader to the ends of the Earth in his campaign, armed to the teeth with your lucky mustache and bright red armor. The one with the shiniest head.

Ability: Lucky Mustache
Your moustache is your pride, you even say it's why you've never lost a battle. Once per game, if you would be killed in battle, you will not die and your HP will become 10 instead.

Class: Fighter

Skill: HP +5
You have +20 HP.

Skill: Zeal
Your vote weight is doubled.

Current Health: 80+20/80+20

Re-Classing:

• Master Seal (2) - Warrior
• Second Seal (3) - Knight, Cavalier, General

Win Condition: Eliminate the Plegian Kingdom and outnumber the Shepherds.

"Well done, friends," said Naga. "Now, I have stopped getting any evil vibes with the Valmese signature...rather strange, for Grima to summon only two Valmese warriors. Either way, the Valmese Empire has been eliminated. You all deserve some rest."

Night 4 has begun. and will end March 5th at 10 PM (MST) or approximately the time of this post in your time zone.

 

[Vom]

Day 5​

Spoiler: Flavor

As the sun rose, everyone got out of their beds. With the adrenaline from the previous' Day success, everyone gathered in the hall quickly, motivated more than ever to find the intruders and eliminate them once and for all.

As they entered the hall, wondering which of their comrades would be lying there, they noticed something different...the body wasn't broken as usual, this time, it had wounds all over the arms and chest. The face was barely recognizable.

Spoiler: Body

You are Libra. An Ylissean priest with a calming mien. So lovely are your features that strangers often mistake you for a woman. Your one flaw is a tendency to get caught up in details. The one with the scabbiest knees.

Ability: Naga’s Blessing+
A loyal servant to the Divine Dragon Naga, you used to travel with a group of fellow clergymen, even attempting to thwart Gangrel’s assassination of Emmeryn. Your newfound power allows you to borrow more of Naga's power, and thus you can not only see through spoken lies, you can even pierce Grima's spell! Once per Night, you may PM me to use this Ability. Target a player. Their role will be posted anonymously in the Day update.

Class: War Monk

Skill: Rally Luck+
Once per Night, you may PM me to use this Skill. Target a player. In the upcoming Day, the third person they vote for will be lynched instantly.

Skill: Renewal+
You do not take any damage. Every Night, you may use as many Staves as you want.

Current Health: 0/80

Re-Classing:

• Master Seal (1) - N/A
• Second Seal (3) - Mage, Dark Mage, Priest

Win Condition: Eliminate all non town-aligned players.

No one really reacted, they had all gotten used to the deaths. However, there was a little scroll next to @bbninjas 's body...with precious information.

Spoiler

You are Grima, The Fell Dragon. You once tried, nearly a thousand years ago, to take the land of Ylisse by force, but were sealed away by the first exalt for your crimes. Now, the seal has broken, and it’s your time to rise again. But to do so, you need to take out any threats that currently stand in your way… The one with the most unquenchable bloodthirst.

Ability: Banished Power
You were banished for over a thousand years in your prison… and you learned a few tricks. You will use your newfound power to hide yourself and pose as anyone you wish. This allows you to ‘help’ both Plegia and Valm, as well as Ylisse.

Ability: Tactician
This Ability originally allowed to redirect things based on your orders...but since the actual Tactician is dead, you can't really do that. Instead, this Ability allows you to use two Skills per Night (or 1 Skill twice).

Class: Fell Dragon

Skill: Rightful God
Once per Night, you may PM me to use this Skill. Target a player. Your target's max HP will be reduced to 10.

Skill: Dragonskin
The first time you would be lynched or Nightkilled, you will not die. Also, you take no damage from attacks, except from Wyrmslayers. Wyrmslayers will deal normal damage to you.

Skill: Ignis
This Skill originally allowed its owner to see names...but the evil in you has corrupted it and changed its effect. Once per Night, you may PM me to use this Skill. Target a player. You will learn their Ability's effect.

Skill: Rally Spectrum
Once per Night, you may PM me to use this Skill. Target a player. Their Ability and Item effects will be boosted in the next Night.

Current Health: 90+10/90+10 (1 Seraph Robe)

Re-Classing:

• Master Seal - N/A
• Second Seal - N/A

Win Condition: Survive until the end of the game.

Before anyone could draw any conclusions, a voice was heard:

We're doing good. Let's get the other team and the indie.

Encouraged by these words, everyone started talking.

Day 5 has begun! It will end on Thursday, March 10th at midnight EST (or approximately the time of this post in your own timezone).

There are 12 players, so for the Day to end with a majority lynch, it would take 7 votes, unless there are any modifiers.

• Any Skills or Abilities that have Day usage may be used, so long as any other required criteria is fulfilled, if any.
• Any Items or Staves that have Day usage may be used, so long as any other required criteria is fulfilled, if any.

Also, just as a disclaimer: If you have a damaging Skill, there is no such thing as 'Default Weapon'. If you haven't obtained a weapon, you cannot use your damaging Skill.

Another disclaimer: Just to make it clear, if a player is silenced, it will NOT be made public. What happened with mordacazir was host error and thus had to be revealed, but under normal circumstances all special conditions are secret.

If you think you should have received a PM for something, please PM me and @Keeper of Night.

 

[thegrovylekid]

##VOTE: quakingpunch73

I'm very confused though. Was bb the indie posing as someone else, or did someone seer someone and get Grima?