Finished Werewolf XXXI: Grima's Rebirth - GAME OVER! TOWN WINS!

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OK, well ##VOTE: Reinforce because he's an OP Fell Dragon. You can't really argue against this lynch, lol.
By morda's result Reinforce approached me and Vracken. Reinforce revealed my role, but did he ever reveal Vracken's?
He approached both of you in the same night, so he would have only got the role from you, right? He would have had to have targeted Vracken with another ability, maybe shooting him down to 10 remaining health or something.

As an aside, I love the fact that you still haven't given me a weapon this game, @Vom. Pacifism FTW :p
 
OK, well ##VOTE: Reinforce because he's an OP Fell Dragon. You can't really argue against this lynch, lol.

He approached both of you in the same night, so he would have only got the role from you, right? He would have had to have targeted Vracken with another ability, maybe shooting him down to 10 remaining health or something.

As an aside, I love the fact that you still haven't given me a weapon this game, @Vom. Pacifism FTW :p
If I read correctly Grima is able to use the same skill twice
 
If I read correctly Grima is able to use the same skill twice
he can use the same skill twice or two different skills.
Also,

##UNYEEHAW: Luispipe8
##YEEHAW: Reinforce

so many suspicious people. RF, Quaking, Luis, and a few others.

It's just a matter of picking the order. After thinking about it, I think RF should go first, then Quaking unless something comes up to confirm him town. Then Luis. Just my opinion though.
 
I'm not confirming anything yet, but an item called Limit Breaker exists, ever heard of it? Vracken was practically MIA yesterday, I'm surprised you guys suddenly care for his identity.

Uh-huh. So, suddenly, I'm a different suspicious player then?

Mind explaining how I could have "killed" GM Draclord back then? Because that's the initial reason and the whole foundation of the suspicion on me, right? Or what, I'm the convenient postboard that you can tack as the most suspicious person around, first as Valmese scum and now as indie? Never mind that earlier theory no longer making sense with yesterday's lynch. And in fact, you were so insistent that the indie theory was too crazy to be believable, throwing in Occam's Razor and all that. Oh wait, maybe I have two roles; that might be illegal, but anything as long as it puts the suspicion on me, I guess. I mean, who cares about contradictions? Only I do, apparently.

In case it isn't clear, if I am the indie, then I couldn't have killed GM Draclord because there's no killing ability stated there. The only way that I could have killed GM Draclord is by being Valmese scum who inherited simsands' nightkill (paraphrased from Celever), but that's been disproved as of yesterday's lynch. Are you now going to back out of the claim that I killed GM Draclord, which is why I got suspected in the first place?

Oh and I wonder why no one is considering morda possibly faking his results and its flavor. I mean, I am suspected of possibly doing it with my seer results, but apparently he can't? Double standards when everyone's pinned you up as a suspect already, I guess. I mean, the flavor was put up at the start of the day, it isn't hard to throw in a couple more names in a faked track/watch result, especially with no one else claiming to have a similar ability.
 
I'm not confirming anything yet, but an item called Limit Breaker exists, ever heard of it? Vracken was practically MIA yesterday, I'm surprised you guys suddenly care for his identity.

Uh-huh. So, suddenly, I'm a different suspicious player then?

Mind explaining how I could have "killed" GM Draclord back then? Because that's the initial reason and the whole foundation of the suspicion on me, right? Or what, I'm the convenient postboard that you can tack as the most suspicious person around, first as Valmese scum and now as indie? Never mind that earlier theory no longer making sense with yesterday's lynch. And in fact, you were so insistent that the indie theory was too crazy to be believable, throwing in Occam's Razor and all that. Oh wait, maybe I have two roles; that might be illegal, but anything as long as it puts the suspicion on me, I guess. I mean, who cares about contradictions? Only I do, apparently.

In case it isn't clear, if I am the indie, then I couldn't have killed GM Draclord because there's no killing ability stated there. The only way that I could have killed GM Draclord is by being Valmese scum who inherited simsands' nightkill (paraphrased from Celever), but that's been disproved as of yesterday's lynch. Are you now going to back out of the claim that I killed GM Draclord, which is why I got suspected in the first place?

Oh and I wonder why no one is considering morda possibly faking his results and its flavor. I mean, I am suspected of possibly doing it with my seer results, but apparently he can't? Double standards when everyone's pinned you up as a suspect already, I guess. I mean, the flavor was put up at the start of the day, it isn't hard to throw in a couple more names in a faked track/watch result, especially with no one else claiming to have a similar ability.
The contradictions are irrelevant when confotown used their ability on you.

Fine, it's not totally confirmed that bb targeted you. However, it's by far the likeliest scenario. bb's a smart player, and he wouldn't have used that ability on anyone. IIRC, he believed you for the most part, so this was probably his way of cleaning you.

IDK, I'm not articulating this very well. :p
 
Outrealm Skill Results: You made time to visit both Reinforce and bbninjas, and saw that Reinforce targeted Professor Palutena (and was targeted by mordacazir and bbninjas), and saw that bbninjas targeted Reinforce (and was targeted by Luispipe8 and Professor Palutena).

This does make it seem like @Reinforce is Grima, as he was the only person targeted by bbninjas before he died. On a side note, I changed the skill name to prevent scum for finding out my role, and the effect should be self-explainable, but I can post the effect of the skill if anyone wants.
 
I would accept this, if not for the fact that is out of the blue, quakingpunch37. I have a hard time believing there are two of the exact same Ability under the same Alignment so I'm guessing one of you and mordacazir is a scum tracker.

Well, whatever; everyone posting results and claims here is believable except for me, no proof needed even, so it's fruitless and I'm not going to argue with you anymore, Celever.

If you guys want to talk for more and prolong the day, go ahead, I'm not fielding the defense of feeling any issue should you talk like I'm not here anymore.

Good luck finding the scum without a seer though. They've playing well ^_^
 
I would accept this, if not for the fact that is out of the blue, quakingpunch37. I have a hard time believing there are two of the exact same Ability under the same Alignment so I'm guessing one of you and mordacazir is a scum tracker.

The part that is bolded is incorrect. Morda has an ability, but I used my skill. This differentiates the two as I can use a Limit Breaker (like I did last night) and Morda can't. I previously posted my ability towards the end of yesterday.

On a side note, Why haven't you posted role results for today?
 
The part that is bolded is incorrect. Morda has an ability, but I used my skill. This differentiates the two as I can use a Limit Breaker (like I did last night) and Morda can't. I previously posted my ability towards the end of yesterday.


That's funny, because I used that exact same defense in a previous day (claiming that skills and abilities are different and could explain why I could have a similar ability to GM Draclord) but it didn't fly. Of course, it could have been just suspect bias in my case so you'll be given a pass, no problem.

On a side note, Why haven't you posted role results for today?

Well, you're going to kill me. Why should I still help you? There's nothing in it for me. You want me to help you with my results and then throw me away and kill me because I have outlived my usefulness while you take the credit and the easy way out to win. I'm not that gullible and good-hearted, sorry.
 
Dead players still win if their faction wins. If you're town you'll post the results anyway. If not then there's no reason not to kill you.
 
Formatting messed up there.

The part that is bolded is incorrect. Morda has an ability, but I used my skill. This differentiates the two as I can use a Limit Breaker (like I did last night) and Morda can't. I previously posted my ability towards the end of yesterday.

That's funny, because I used that exact same defense in a previous day (claiming that skills and abilities are different and could explain why I could have a similar ability to GM Draclord) but it didn't fly. Of course, it could have been just suspect bias in my case so you'll be given a pass, no problem.

On a side note, Why haven't you posted role results for today?

Well, you're going to kill me. Why should I still help you? There's nothing in it for me. You want me to help you with my results and then throw me away and kill me because I have outlived my usefulness while you take the credit and the easy way out to win. I'm not that gullible and good-hearted, sorry.

Dead players still win if their faction wins. If you're town you'll post the results anyway. If not then there's no reason not to kill you.

Let's not kid ourselves here. You don't think I'm town. You don't even give the slightest probability that I'm town. If you did, you'd have actually read and considered my role claim from way back. When I posted that, you ignored it and ploughed on ahead with your "Reinforce is Valmese scum" theory. Plus, you're voting me. What you're aiming to happen here is that I'll post my result with the pretense that if I do, you'll maybe back off and not lynch me. But I know that you'll lynch me regardless.

So, I would have done you a service, and then in return for that, you kill me off.

Yeah, that's far from being an equivalent exchange.
 
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