Finished Werewolf XXXI: Grima's Rebirth - GAME OVER! TOWN WINS!

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My thoughts on today's events-

-I think Reinforce is the best lynch option right now, but if we can strike a deal or find someone even scummier (both of which are unlikely), there is a chance of his survival

-Luis has been acting a little odd today, but unless anyone else wants to claim Tiki, I think he's town atm, though I am curious about his investigative skill

-I find it odd that @Professor Palutena has been absent this entire day considering that she was in both of my results
 
Actually, the hosts told me I could win with the town; I don't kill after all. But since you guys apparently want to win on your own, rather than within a couple of days if my abilities were to be utilized... well, you'll have to live with your choice, I guess. The game will take waaaaaay longer obviously.

But I suppose that you want it this way because it's more fun and entertaining. I think so too :)
 
My old skill allowed me to get their Ability's name if someone I targeted used one. I used it on Celever N2, IIRC, which gave me no results.
 
Reinforce said:
Actually, the hosts told me I could win with the town; I don't kill after all. But since you guys apparently want to win on your own, rather than within a couple of days if my abilities were to be utilized... well, you'll have to live with your choice, I guess. The game will take waaaaaay longer obviously.

But I suppose that you want it this way because it's more fun and entertaining. I think so too :)
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I direct your attention to the bolded parts-

1. You are admitting to being Grima

2.Yes, town can win with you, your win con is to survive until the end of the game

3. We just want to win. However, if push comes to shove, you could defect to scum in the end. This is a game of deceit, after all.
 
Reinforce said:
Actually, the hosts told me I could win with the town; I don't kill after all. But since you guys apparently want to win on your own, rather than within a couple of days if my abilities were to be utilized... well, you'll have to live with your choice, I guess. The game will take waaaaaay longer obviously.

But I suppose that you want it this way because it's more fun and entertaining. I think so too :)
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If I was blamed to be scum and no one would believe me, I would still share anything I know. Townies' only concern is for the town to win, not for themselves to survive.
 
quakingpunch73 said:
I direct your attention to the bolded parts-

1. You are admitting to being Grima

2.Yes, town can win with you, your win con is to survive until the end of the game

3. We just want to win. However, if push comes to shove, you could defect to scum in the end. This is a game of deceit, after all.
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1. It was pretty obvious after the start of the day update with bbninjas. It was brought to attention by mordacazir's result. You confirmed it.

2. Yes, I'm glad you understand. It just amuses me because it's been long since an indie also won in Pokebeach WW.

3. Of course we all want to win. It just so happens that it's possible for us to cooperate to achieve each other's agenda. It's your choice though, you guys are the one holding my life on the line. It's impossible for scum to win once I side with the town. They wouldn't be able to kill you all faster than I can say who they are. Even if they kill me, all that would accomplish is meaningless revenge. If I side with scum, based on what I know of almost everyone's role and abilities, town has no chance of winning :)

scattered mind said:
If I was blamed to be scum and no one would believe me, I would still share anything I know. Townies' only concern is for the town to win, not for themselves to survive.
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I'm not that much of a martyr, though.
 
To be honest, I'm buying Reinforce's plan. I like it. And it's not like he has a different win con or something, his role was mod revealed.
 
quakingpunch73 said:
@Reinforce, I'd go along with your plan too. Do you have an idea on who scum is?
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Yes, if you read the posted update it states there how I "have an idea". I also happen to know who we should kill/lynch first.

But, this is still just 2 yes votes, which is nowhere near majority. I'll wait for the others to share their thoughts and to agree or disagree.
 
Camoclone said:
No. He refuses to share vital information with us. He obviously won't help us.
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You know this deal can go sour both ways, right? You can make me reveal the info you need, and then you can turn your back and lynch me today after you have gotten what you want from me, and then you'll end up the winners --- no thanks to yourselves or your own abilities. You're lying if you claim that's impossible you could dupe me like that. Nah, this is a... transaction, you could say, and there are measures to be taken to prevent fall-out scenarios.

And like I said earlier, I'm not obligated to share my information to you. But I am willing to help... in a deal, of course, that would not end in my death. Basically, this is just a way to speed up each other's win condition. Of course, you can refuse and lynch me today, but understand that after me, the only way you'll catch scum in the upcoming days is if you get lucky with abilities and results. Give or take that's at least 3-4 more game Days. Assuming of course, that they don't kill you and achieve their win condition first. ^_^
 
Celever said:
He approached both of you in the same night, so he would have only got the role from you, right? He would have had to have targeted Vracken with another ability, maybe shooting him down to 10 remaining health or something.
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@Vracken - Can you confirm it?

thegrovylekid said:
so many suspicious people. RF, Quaking, Luis, and a few others.
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Who are the few others?

morda and quaking have the same ability? If so, isn't that clear that one of them is scum?
 
Camoclone said:
If he actually was going to play with us he'd reveal the info.
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If we look at this logically, than we know that you and bbninjas were cleared earlier, bb through his flip, and you through your hint of having avoid +10 on D1 lining up with Lon'qu's skills. KX is most likely Panne, as Reinforce could not have deduced that he was Panne based on reading alone. This leaves Professor Palutena as being the likely scum option that Reinforce is talking about. so...

##Lecture: Professor Palutena
 
scattered mind said:
The part that is bolded is incorrect. Morda has an ability, but I used my skill. This differentiates the two as I can use a Limit Breaker (like I did last night) and Morda can't. I previously posted my ability towards the end of yesterday.

On a side note, Why haven't you posted role results for today?
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I forgot to mention this in my OP on this topic, but skills are also tied to a class, meaning that in theory, around half of us could preform this action at night, but in likelihood only 1-2 players with the action are scum, at most.
 
I too sorta doubt RF's allegiance because he hasn't been sharing info.

But let's be real, we'd be dumb to kill him today and possibly screw ourselves out of an autowin.
 
quakingpunch73 said:
If we look at this logically, than we know that you and bbninjas were cleared earlier, bb through his flip, and you through your hint of having avoid +10 on D1 lining up with Lon'qu's skills. KX is most likely Panne, as Reinforce could not have deduced that he was Panne based on reading alone. This leaves Professor Palutena as being the likely scum option that Reinforce is talking about. so...

##Lecture: Professor Palutena
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Camoclone said:
If he actually was going to play with us he'd reveal the info.
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The hosts have forbidden me from directly disclosing the scum's names. Though, they didn't say that I could not subtly hint at it. Or that I can "nudge" you guys to deduce it yourselves. ...Yet.
 
The scum win condition that we know makes it easy for us to be back-stabbed. Assuming that both factions have that win condition.

Reinforce said:
The hosts have forbidden me from directly disclosing the scum's names. Though, they didn't say that I could not subtly hint at it. Or that I can "nudge" you guys to deduce it yourselves. ...Yet.
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This is just silly.
 
Lol, the hosts can't do that, and it's silly that they would. Not like you can't tell us in a hundred other ways.
 
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