Mainly going with intuition at this point, but it seems possible Celever was trying to project a scummy image onto EM in hopes to get everyone to believe EM was scum. But like I said, intuition is the main base for me so far.Mind explaining why?
Then why post it at all? You claimed extremely early.I dodn't put much in my role post due to me not wanting scum to find out how much hp I have or my class which I figure are things that could make or kill me, and/or everyone else.
Then why post it at all? You claimed extremely early.
Okay, I have difficulty believing this. RVS is the phrase people use... not Random Voting Stage. Is this indicative of alignment? I'm not sure. I can easily see EM lying as town if he thinks that is the easiest way out, which seems more likely since he claimed Chrom (I think?).I am sorry, I honestly don't remember the acronym being used, I remember the PHRASE being used though.
I don't understand the logic behind this vote, even if it was random. Your reason seems to contradict the point of voting - you're saying that it is unlikely morda would be scum... so why are you voting for him? Not that it really matters - the logic is flawed anyway...##VOTE: mordacazir
You could be lucky to get scum role twice in a row
I am confused.Obviously, didn't you see my post from before the game started? @bbninjas can confirm.
Yes, I noticed the same similarities.Yeah, @thegrovylekid is IMO scummier this game than he was last game. his post had a lot of panic. When he made the post, though, I just felt it was too early to get all up in his face about it.
Why/how? Me saying this post's lack of reasoning is scummy does not make it scummy.Morda's backpedal was also very scummy.
@Empoleon_master (6): [simsands (Vote)] [Celever (Vote)] [King Xerneas (Vote)] [mordacazir (Vote)] [Professor Palutena (Vote)] [Camoclone (Vote)] [The Healer (Vote)][For future reference.]
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Shouldn't need to unvote but fiiiiine ##UNVOTE
Super weird? Not at all. PB is very good at having soft claims in closed setups, and it is the fault of the two players...This is super weird game design having two softs on D1. A part of me is still suspicious.
Nice singling out you've got going there. King Xerneas, mordacazir, Camoclone and The Healer all "bandwagoned" depending on your definition, so this vote makes me wonder. [For future reference.]Anyway, ##UNVOTE: Empoleon_master ##RECORD: Professor Palutena
This post is an opportunistic bandwagon and nothing less than that. This is very scummy.
Does Camo normally do this? As in, give only a small amount of options when in fact there are much more options? I'm pretty sure this is a tactic used to fool, which could be completely what Camo is aiming for in getting reactions in the form of votes. However, Camo could be subtly building some ground in manipulating town to think a certain way for later in the day, which I could see as a Camo scum play. [For future reference - the players Camo provides as options.]EM, SM, or SS. Those are our options.
In this closed set-up game, it should be guaranteed that the host provides some form of flavour safeclaim for the scum otherwise, as witnessed in past games, everything is based on safeclaims and scum generally fall apart. This means that every flavour claim should be written by the host/s, meaning this food for thought is relatively null.Though, honestly I didn't think Chrom would actually be in this game after the D1 story bit. Your role doesn't say anything about testing people with the Fire Emblem either.
Food for thought.
How? I don't see any inferred role fishing there.This is inferred role fishing.
Huh? Why are you posting this if you are town? You sound like a player worried about being falsely accused/receiving suspicion for false reasons. Scum are the players that worry about receiving unnecessary suspicion, not town. That said, I have clarified to prevent misunderstandings in this way before as town, so I can see where you may be coming from.I'm not gonna speak for EM and I'm not scum buddies with him, nor am I scum trying to buddy with the Confo town,
But it's pretty obvious why he posted what he did.
[For future reference.]@Empoleon_master (6): [simsands (Vote)] [Celever (Vote)] [King Xerneas (Vote)] [mordacazir (Vote)] [Professor Palutena (Vote)] [Camoclone (Vote)] [The Healer (Vote)]
ERROR 389: Unidentified vote: bbninjas
Super weird? Not at all. PB is very good at having soft claims in closed setups, and it is the fault of the two players...This is super weird game design having two softs on D1. A part of me is still suspicious.
Nice singling out you've got going there. King Xerneas, mordacazir, Camoclone and The Healer all "bandwagoned" depending on your definition, so this vote makes me wonder. [For future reference.]Anyway, ##UNVOTE: Empoleon_master ##RECORD: Professor Palutena
This post is an opportunistic bandwagon and nothing less than that. This is very scummy.
Does Camo normally do this? As in, give only a small amount of options when in fact there are much more options? I'm pretty sure this is a tactic used to fool, which could be completely what Camo is aiming for in getting reactions in the form of votes. However, Camo could be subtly building some ground in manipulating town to think a certain way for later in the day, which I could see as a Camo scum play. [For future reference - the players Camo provides as options.]EM, SM, or SS. Those are our options.
In this closed set-up game, it should be guaranteed that the host provides some form of flavour safeclaim for the scum otherwise, as witnessed in past games, everything is based on safeclaims and scum generally fall apart. This means that every flavour claim should be written by the host/s, meaning this food for thought is relatively null.Though, honestly I didn't think Chrom would actually be in this game after the D1 story bit. Your role doesn't say anything about testing people with the Fire Emblem either.
Food for thought.
How? I don't see any inferred role fishing there.This is inferred role fishing.
Huh? Why are you posting this if you are town? You sound like a player worried about being falsely accused/receiving suspicion for false reasons. Scum are the players that worry about receiving unnecessary suspicion, not town. That said, I have clarified to prevent misunderstandings in this way before as town, so I can see where you may be coming from.[/quote]I'm not gonna speak for EM and I'm not scum buddies with him, nor am I scum trying to buddy with the Confo town,
But it's pretty obvious why he posted what he did.
Now, what I /am/ surprised about is that Camo and Celever haven't had their usual 5 page debate yet.
##ELECT: King Xerneas
Cause, IDKWIAD
Why did you opt for King Xerneas over anyone else?
I dunno ^w^
That's not good enough. There has to have been some sort of reasoning behind it. Did you use a RNG? Was it the first name that came into your head? What was it?
For the record, I am 108% certain that Celever's push on EM is proof that Camo is scum. I'm leaving my vote where it is.
OK, now that there has been more progression in the thread, why haven't you yet changed your vote? Clearly voting for King Xerneas didn't find any reactions.I missed Celever's second question q.q (sorry Celever)
I voted King Xerneas to see peoples reactions, there were none, so I didn't really get anything out of it :/ (I also missed out on RVS, so I was sad, q.q), otherwise it was just the first name I saw on Voms first update thingy
^w^
Yeah you did a great job explaining it here.Wanna explain your logic or is this just my turn for your D1 hunting?