Finished Werewolf XXXI: Grima's Rebirth - GAME OVER! TOWN WINS!

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I've got to do loads of work rn so if it's not too late afterwards I'll read up.
 
Sorry I haven't contributed much lately; it's been a busy weekend for me. Here are my reads to sort of make up for it.

  1. @Ice Espeon: Town; cleared.
  2. @Celever: Rather a lot more aggressive than I remember him being last game, but I don't feel like he's scum. Maybe indie with Camo? Not sure.
  3. @thegrovylekid: Town, from the Second Seal ability thing.
  4. @Athena: No read until she posts later.
  5. @Professor Palutena: Not sure; leaning town from instinct.
  6. @Empoleon_master: Cleared, but not contributing.
  7. @Jabberwock: me
  8. @Camoclone: Aggressive as per usual, so kinda hard to read anything from that. I get that it's traditional for him to fight against Celever until one or the other is dead, but if there's a better lynch candidate (which there was D1) there's no good reason for them to continue it. I think everyone's reading way too far into it.
  9. @Vracken: Neutral for now.
  10. @King Xerneas: Probably town.
  11. @Squirtle Squad: Lynched D1.
  12. @Luispipe8: Well, apparently not the announcer, but strangely absent. Leaning scum.
  13. @bbninjas: Feels like town to me. He's playing a bit differently than he was last game, I think.
  14. @scattered mind: Seems a bit more aggressive than I remember him being in previous games, but not enough to make him scum. Neutral read for now.
  15. @Reinforce: Leaning town––only a couple posts per day, but full of content and contribution. I think the sparseness of his posts can be attributed to work.
  16. @mordacazir: Leaning scum.
  17. @simsands: Neutral read, but contributing enough that he feels more town than scum.
  18. @double o squirtle: NK'd N1.
  19. @GM DracLord: Lack of contribution; no read.
  20. @Cypher333: Same as Drac.
  21. @The Healer: Seems a little quieter today, but can't really read into that. From D1, I'm gonna say town.
I want to draw attention to the fact that Harry Potter mafia (which was a very long time ago now... just under 2 years maybe? o_O) is the only instance I've been scum on this site, and actually I was scumbuddies with Camo in that game. The first thing he said in the scumchat was "we need to argue Celever, or people will think something's up". If we were both scum, we would do that again. Therefore, us not fighting is affiliation neutral. It would be WIFOM to say that us not arguing makes us town, but it's actually not WIFOM to state that it has no bearing on our alignment, and it doesn't.
Or you'd decide not to argue, and have this as an excuse for it.

Anyway, ##VOTE: LUISPIPE8. Pressure if nothing else.
 
@Vracken- Liking posts without posting anything.

@Jabberwock - You have no read on Athena at all? Do you have nothing to say about the current case on her (which she already defended so I'm not sure what are you waiting for).
 
TGK was my main scum candidate, but since he's been sort of debunked, Camo and morda are really the only ones that I see as scum, and I'm starting to second guess morda. Many of us do see morda's posts as scummy, but wouldn't that be a bad move if they really were scum? Honestly someone just really needs to slip up somewhere and give us something of substance.
 
I really don't have much to add, my reads are all pretty neutral right now, and after my false opinion on Squirtle Squad I am reluctant to vote vote for someone when I have even less information. Personally, I am considering a Vote for Gm Drac, just because inactivity (I know, he isn't the only one) doesn't really help town players at all either, so I guess that is more or less a safe vote

Otherwise, the scum kill is really odd to me, did double o squirtle have a lot of experience in werewolf?
 
@Celever @Jabberwock if both of you coordinate to take my University exams and buy me a computer I'd gladly be able to make more detailed posts. But since neither of that will happen, I'll be limited to a rather old Nokia phone to browse through the forums and comment, and that'd be for another week /at least/.

I was never that sold on the TGK case. I'm a bit torn between Athena, Camo (both for reasons others have stated) and Morda, so I'd like to see if Camo can post before I make a decision. It's a long day and there's no need to rush it.
 
Killing a strong player (read experienced) early seems like a good play to me, it reduces someone who knows what they are doing, and as long as you don't go overboard it doesn't really reveal who you are
 
@Vracken- Liking posts without posting anything.

@Jabberwock - You have no read on Athena at all? Do you have nothing to say about the current case on her (which she already defended so I'm not sure what are you waiting for).
Until Athena posts what she said she would, I don't have a read. I know she promised to do it earlier, but she's also pretty evidently busy with running TC, among other things. It's not fair to read that far into someone not having the time to form detailed posts, especially when that person already does so much on the rest of the site.

@Celever @Jabberwock if both of you coordinate to take my University exams and buy me a computer I'd gladly be able to make more detailed posts. But since neither of that will happen, I'll be limited to a rather old Nokia phone to browse through the forums and comment, and that'd be for another week /at least/.

I was never that sold on the TGK case. I'm a bit torn between Athena, Camo (both for reasons others have stated) and Morda, so I'd like to see if Camo can post before I make a decision. It's a long day and there's no need to rush it.
Fair enough. ##UNVOTE: LUISPIPE8. ##VOTE: MORDACAZIR.
 
Not much here at least. Why?
Thoughts on the kill? I want those quickly, because I have my own points to raise on it.

Thank you for bringing that discussion point up, @Vracken. I'd been meaning to but it totally slipped out of my head. See? Good things happen when you post, so stop lurking! :L

Also, Thena had a party today, and she's still cleaning up the aftermath. I forgot about this in my earlier posts. It's also fairly late for her in Die Nederlands, but reads don't take too long to knock up so I think she should be able to post it by tomorrow.
 
Random.org says ##Arcthunder:Squirtle Squad

To be fair I think a quite few of us lol'd a bit when the roles came out. You, simsands, Luis ,me...

Did you just unvote because someone voted for you? That looks so scummy.

##UnArcthunder:Squirtle Squad
##Elwind:Mordacazir

If it's a skill that's doing this, which one might have a similar effect to a double vote weight? The only one I can think of is Aether.

Actually, considering the whole "Robin having a good heart so Grima wants to possess him/her"or something like that, means that Robin has a decent chance of being town, scum or a safe claim (if we're playing with Grima).

All the posts from DOS.
I don't know what you can understand from that about the NK. The FE experts may know better.
 
He voted Mordacazir.. so maybe if morda is town, the scum team tried to make morda look scum and by that make it easier to start voting for him?
 
And if that so.. the first scum to attempt leading the lynch would be tgk:

Figures. Anyways,

##YEEHAW: Mordacazir

Morda posted semi-frequently, but didn't do much but bandwagon. Here's some quotes I don't like from him, along with one from SS that I think sums it up rather well.


Here he echoes Celever.

Here's a bandwagon.

Here's a Backpedal.



While it didn't quote over, Morda implied bandwagonning off of the post he made where KX thought Celever would be scum.

Bandwagon.

Admitting to Bandwagon.


Role Fish.

SS sums this up way better though in one sentence:


So for those reasons I think Mordacazir is a good vote for today.


I'm not Athena, but my best guess would be Tiki, since she's a dragon-priestess and has a connection to Naga, who has a rather angelic voice. We know it isn't Luis because he hasn't quit yet.
 
Firstly, I'd be quite surprised if you seered me and I flipped scum. Then I'd ask you to post what information you got from your seer, then I'd post my role PM to see how close they were and we could see if you were lying.
A seer more often than not is simply a result of "thegrovylekid is town/scum". Anyways, you saying "quite surprised" sounds strange. I would've thought you'd say "Well, I'm town." or something similar if you are in fact town.
 
A seer more often than not is simply a result of "thegrovylekid is town/scum". Anyways, you saying "quite surprised" sounds strange. I would've thought you'd say "Well, I'm town." or something similar if you are in fact town.
I'd be quite surprised if you seer'd me and got scum off of it. That's what I was trying to say.
 
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