Finished Werewolf XXXIII: Order in the Court!- Congratulations Law!

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I don't think they are pro anything. It depends who got mod killed- if it's scum then it's pro town and if it's town, it's pro scum.
 
The likelihood of scum getting modkilled is faaaar lower than town getting modkilled just by theoretical numbers, especially as scum more often want to participate than town given they have a defined team, often some very funky roles and generally some other interesting aspects.
 
Scattered has it right. It's null.

Inactivity has nothing to do with alignment. Mia and mord were both inactive scum last game.

@thegrovylekid , please post your reads.
 
Due to a mistake in the previous vote count, thegrovylekid is actually at L-3. This post:
double o squirtle said:
thegrovylekid is at L-3
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should have said L-2.

Someone has requested a vote count so here it is.

Day 1 Vote Count #4​

Votes are listed in chronological order.
Names are listed in alphabetical order.
The majority for a lynch is 11.
The player with the most votes is tagged.
This vote count does not include tgk’s heap of votes. Particularly these ones:
thegrovylekid said:
##VOTE: Celever
##UNVOTE: Celever
##VOTE: simsands
##UNVOTE: simsands
##VOTE: Empoleon_Master
##UNVOTE: Empoleon_Master
##VOTE: Scattered Mind
##UNVOTE: Scattered Mind
##VOTE: Robin Asiaga
##UNVOTE: Robin Asiaga
##VOTE: mordacazir
##UNVOTE: mordacazir
##VOTE: Reinforce
##UNVOTE: Reinforce
##VOTE: bbninjas
##UNVOTE: bbninjas
##VOTE: PMJ
##UNVOTE: PMJ
##VOTE: GM DracLord
##UNVOTE: GM DracLord
##VOTE: Camoclone
##UNVOTE: Camoclone
##VOTE: Luispipe8
##UNVOTE: Luispipe8
##VOTE: Professor Palutena
##UNVOTE: Professor Palutena
##VOTE: Skyleaf2000
##UNVOTE: Skyleaf2000
##VOTE: PikaMasterJesi
##UNVOTE: PikaMasterJesi
##VOTE: Jabberwock
##UNVOTE: Jabberwock
##VOTE: xDoggerx
##UNVOTE: xDoggerx
##VOTE: Cypher333
##UNVOTE: Cypher333
##VOTE: Squirtle Squad

Sorry. Just thought I'd try being Camo for a post.
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thegrovylekid said:
##UNVOTE: Squirtle Squad
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bbninjas 0 : Skyleaf2000 (vote) l Celever (vote) l
Camoclone 0 : simsands (vote) l thegrovylekid (vote) l PikaMasterJesi (vote) l
Celever 2 : Camoclone (vote) l GM Draclord (vote) l xDoggerx (vote) l Camoclone (vote) l simsands (vote) l
Empoleon_master 2 : Camoclone (vote) l thegrovylekid (vote) l PikaMasteJesi (vote) l scattered mind (vote) l Jabberwock (vote) l bbninjas (vote) l
King Xerneas 0 : thegrovylekid (vote) l
Jabberwock 1 : Professor Palutena (vote) l bbninjas (vote) l thegrovylekid (vote) l bbninjas (vote) l thegrovylekid (vote) l xDoggerx (vote) l
Luispipe8 0 : xDoggerx (vote) l
PikaMasterJesi 0 : Camoclone (vote) l Jabberwock (vote) l thegrovylekid (vote) l bbninjas (vote) l
PMJ 0 : thegrovylekid (vote) l Professor Palutena (vote) l Luispipe8 (vote) l GM Draclord (vote) l xDoggerx (vote) l
Professor Palutena 0 : Camoclone (vote) l
Robin Aisaga 0 : PMJ (vote) l xDoggerx (vote) l thegrovylekid (vote) l Camoclone (vote) l thegrovylekid (vote) l thegrovylekid (vote) l
scattered mind 0 : bbninjas (vote) l
simsands 2 : Camoclone (vote) l Jabberwock (vote) l Celever (vote) l
Squirtle Squad 0 : simsands (vote) l Camoclone (vote) l PikaMasterJesi (vote) l
@thegrovylekid 8 : Camoclone (vote) l Celever (vote) l Camoclone (vote) l Empoleon_master (vote) l bbninjas (vote) l Celever (vote) l Robin Aisaga (vote) l bbninjas (vote) l Celever (vote) l thegrovylekid (vote) l Professor Palutena (vote) l PMJ (vote) l Squirtle Squad (vote) l xDoggerx (vote) l Skyleaf2000 (vote) l Luispipe8 (vote) l bbninjas (vote) l PMJ (vote) | PikaMasterJesi (vote) l GM Draclord (vote) l thegrovylekid (vote) l Miyami (vote) l
xDoggerx 0 : Luispipe8 (vote) l PMJ (vote) l

Not Voting: Camoclone l Empoleon_master l King Xerneas | reinforce l Robin Aisaga l Squirtle Squad l

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Day 1 ends on May 1st 3:30 P.M. EST.
 
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Since I haven't really made anything about TGK and it's looking like he will be lynched here are my thoughts:
  • The way he has acted has been extremely scummy.
  • His role makes me believe he is town though.
  • I think he is definitely a decent lynch for today.
 
After some thinking, I wondered why TGK's claim felt a little familiar. Looking back, I realized it's similar to the Duskull role in the game I hosted, where the dead player (Jabber) could vote and post after death; only his version is more nerfed. However, this doesn't mean he's completely cleared, only that his claimed role is not too implausible. As it stands though, since no third-party confirmation is coming, the possibility that it's a safe claim is still higher than it being a true role, I think.

Robin Aisaga said:
@Reinforce If I may ask, could you give me a summary on what happened in Werewolf game XXVIII? I dunno about the roles. I'm not asking anyone what their character can do or even who it is. I'm curious wether there are any characters from the games Dual Destinies / Apollo Justice, This way we can narrow the list of possible characters. Which at some point may be useful for the town to unravel mason groups. scum will always want to lynch someone that is not one of them, it's not hard for them to pick someone innocent because we are the mayority. Is knowing the identity of a townsfolk going to make much of a difference to that? Well I'm not so sure either if a character list will do good, because of my lack of expierence. But I don't see much harm, even the judge can be scum and we still have no idea how their evidence and ability will work.
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Long story short, almost everyone was hinting at their role's identity without anyone else pressuring or asking them to do so, such that by the end of Day 2, we the scum team back then already had an idea about the ability/role of around 15 out of the 21 players. It wasn't entirely what led to the town loss, but it was a major contributing factor. The main downside of it (for town) was that we knew who we needed to kill quickly and who was okay to leave alive (mainly those with abilities that wouldn't hinder or expose scum).

What you should take away from this is that early in the game, making people reveal their role or ability, even with just a minor hint like which game their character came from (they would inadvertently do so in order to confirm or answer your question) ... unless it's absolutely necessary, it can be detrimental. Making a list of characters is good and yes, it will be useful later on when we have confirmed roles, but right now you can only keep that list aside.

PMJ said:
@thegrovylekid already said that everyone in his group is town, so if he flips town then everyone he says is in the group is cleared. Though I will say it's pretty suspect that no one has stepped forward to back him up.
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Exactly why the possibility that his claim is a safe claim still exists, and a high chance at that. But yeah, if it's true and once it gets confirmed and people reveal, we get 1-2 clears. It's not that bad of a trade-off if you ask me. Plus, TGK can still contribute. Judging by the possible outcomes of whatever he flips, there will be a benefit to us, so it's a low risk lynch. As far as D1 lynches go, that's better than most. I'll be placing my vote now because I'll be off at work by the end of Day.

##CHECK: thegrovylekid
 
Grantm1999 has subbed in for Empoleon_master!

As with morda and Cypher, all votes cast for and by Empoleon_master have been reset!

TGK is at L-2
 
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