I would like a bit more than a list of townie things he has done before I call him softclear. I've said this earlier; scum do townie things to appear townie.
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I would like a bit more than a list of townie things he has done before I call him softclear. I've said this earlier; scum do townie things to appear townie.
How is the fact that a scum Camo actually tried to get Celever lynched not a pretty convincing point for arguing Celever's townieness? The gamble would have not been worth it if Camo and Celever were scumbuddies, and such a gamble probably would not have paid off. Both Camo and Celever are experienced enough to know that, so they were either scumbuddies being insanely risky, or of different alignments.
Camo did the exact same thing last time he was scum. I believe this was discussed earlier today.
Example?
While I was being scummy and trying to argue for the lynch on Vom, and votes were piling up on me, Camo was telling people to vote Yeowie instead. This was long before Yeowie slipped.
I'm not sure which game you are referring to (I cant remember a situation when Camo and Yeowie were both scum >.>), but note that in this scenario, Camo appears to be pushing for Yeowie while there was another lynch to fall back on. The fact that there was votes piling on you (and presumably not Yeowie) also meant that the lynch likely would not go through, so Camo could take the opportunity to gain some towncred.
This is different to this scenario, where Camo has been tailing Celever for literally the whole game - passive aggression in Day 1, which led to a fully fledged push in Day 2 that would've put Celever has a likely lynch candidate if Luis had not revealed Camo as scum.
Also been bored and looking back at past posts... came across this one:
Dis town is gud.
That was Melee.
This time, in a similar manner, Luis had made a scummy sounding post and votes were piling up on him.
That was after votes were piling on Celever iirc. Luis got suggested, not many people took up the option (Camo pushed a little), Camo returned to majorly pushing for Celever. Camo. Keeps. Defaulting. To. Lynching. Celever. That is not how bussing works.
So I won't seem like I'm bandwagon-ing, I'll do this really quickly before I make my statement. ##UNVOTE: Celever
@Celever , I remain unsure who truly identified Phoenix first, but whether you were first or second, what in the heavens could you possibly accomplish with this?
Maybe you did see TGK slip and reveal him. BUT THERE WOULD STILL BE A CHANCE SCUM WOULDN'T SEE WHAT YOU DID. What did you hope to accomplish by "outing Phoenix?"
All I can see happening is bringing Simsands into the spotlight and making him a particularly delectable treat for scummies.
Have I missed something, @Celever ?
@Celever , I remain unsure who truly identified Phoenix first, but whether you were first or second, what in the heavens could you possibly accomplish with this?
Literally all I could see this accomplishing is getting an instant target for scum, and maybe satisfying your emotion for a second. I know how good it can feel to deliver a sudden reveal, but I can't see how this would do anything but hurt town. If he's Phoenix, scum now know and will want to kill the high prosecutor. And from Simsands' recent posts, he seems to agree with being Phoenix.
Maybe you did see TGK slip and reveal him. BUT THERE WOULD STILL BE A CHANCE SCUM WOULDN'T SEE WHAT YOU DID. What did you hope to accomplish by "outing Phoenix?"
All I can see happening is bringing Simsands into the spotlight and making him a particularly delectable treat for scummies.
Have I missed something, @Celever ?
@EVERYBODY , have I missed something?
Why do you not want to seem like you're bandwagoning?
Camo ALWAYS goes after Celever. If he didn't, that would be scummy, and Camo's way too smart a player for that.
Because of these two things Celever said. And that bandwagoning is generally a negative thing, as far as I can tell.
To reply to you, Cel, read http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/threads/werewolf-xxxiii-order-in-the-court-day-3-trial-murders-murders-everywhere.131958/page-68#post-2797998
In addition, lately it has seemed like you're mainly just trying to get votes off of you, and I'm having difficulty telling who you're trying to make people vote on, instead of you. Are you trying to make us vote TGK? What about this?
I was about to say that the Celever vs Camo thing would have something to do with the lynch push on Camo's part.
Also, Skyleaf, link doesn't work.
Also, Skyleaf, link doesn't work.
Thanks. Let me try again.
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thr...urders-everywhere.131958/page-68#post-2797998
Skyleaf - You are echoing. And ignoring player's answers to the questions you echod
Then I apologize. I'll go back and read everything again.
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