Finished Werewolf XXXIII: Order in the Court!- Congratulations Law!

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If there's 3 scum left then that means that PP was counted in the "halfway to victory" as part of the total number of anti town aligned players?

Grants defence was totally weak, nothing there to defend himself.
@grantm1999 scattered asked you about drac yet you give nothing. How do you expect us to believe you're town?
 
also i just realized if we lynch scattered we will have bascially had a perfect game. D2, 3, and 4 will be scum lynches. And d1 we lynched tgk on purpose.

The only reason I can think of that would make you think of posting this was you realizing that the town would have that perfect game if you were lynched, and then tried to make that not happen. Why would you assume that the scum team is only 3 members?

The reasons against me are

EM's interactions with camo
lurking
LaL

I've refuted all of these, and provided strong evidence against scattered.

I would say that the main argument against you is the lie yesterday. You claimed it was about GM, but you have given no proof.. Unfortunately, we can't take your word for it, just like that.
 
Also regarding the like on Celever's scum flip. I understand the whole purpose of no likes is that we don't read too much into it and discus with actual words. But in this case I still feel like it could have an alternate motive. Did Skyleaf just like the lynch on Celever to make it look like she was cheering along with the town? A risky thing to do for a town just before the night starts. If non of that is the case. Could you please pay more attention to the game and its rules?!
My PM to quakingpunch right after the like said:
I apologize. I was thinking of the challenge, where you have to like important updates so that the mods know you've read them. :(
Sorry.
quakingpunch can confirm this. I realized my mistake and removed the like as soon as he said that I liked a post. Then I sent him this message explaining why I'd made the mistake.
I've been raised so that when I make a mistake, I apologize to the sensei/teacher/mod and explain to them why it happened. So that's exactly what I did.
And I sent this PM on Friday, so don't think I made this up just to counter your statement.

You still try to unravel info on the Kurai clan and Phoenix Wright later in the game even though it is no longer relevant. Also I really hope that last one wasn't a serieus suggestion...
That was because I was trying to find something to post. I want to be as helpful as possible, so I try to find little things that other people haven't seen yet.

Not really. She is scummy and more and more scummy things about her posts seems to add up as the day continues.
Okay, what in the world can I do to prove I am town? I see no possible way I can look town to you because I've been playing completely honestly this entire game. I AM TOWN. Oh, but wait, you can't take my word on it. So what do you want me to do???
Wait, now you'll say that this is just a scum asking how to not appear scum. So no matter what I do, I will always look scummy because my responses to your cases on me apparently aren't viable. As I've said before, there is no possible way for me to be town in your eyes.

Lies, lies everywhere
How can you prove those were lies???
To the second statement you quoted, everyone compiles cases. Asking someone to gather it all into one post isn't a lie. That doesn't even make sense for it to be a lie. Or are you saying that "it's easier when they're all in front of me" is a lie??
To my third statement that you quoted, I genuinely thought there were more. So, I went back and read again.
I ask again, how can you prove these were lies and not just misreads and mistakes?

She really didn't want a gran of suspicion.
I don't think anyone ever wants to appear suspicious. I've seen players taking tiny things and expanding them to make a case on someone, so I simply tried to remove all the suspicion lest someone decided to blow it out of proportion.
 
Not sure how relevant this is, but I was looking through the first few pages of this game for whatever reason and found this:
BTW I cross my fingers for a scum roll as I have established that I no longer entirely suck at WW, so now there actually is a debate about whether I could be scum or not, not just "oma, he's acting smart and knows what he's doing all of a sudden he's scum!"
It seems to me that EM actually wanted to be scum form this post alone. We don't know if he is for sure, but EM was being really inactive and posting fluff excuses when he was in the game.

Speaking of EM, I'm getting a similar feeling from Grant that I was getting from Celever "yesterday" (Day 3). Celever seemed frantic to get votes off him and was doing the best he could to push other lynches, including one of town. I think Grant is acting the same way. Not only this, but Jabberwock and Camo have confirmed for us that there are three scum left––something Grant said there were before we heard this confirmation.
Does this mean that there is 4 scum and 2 indies? 5 scum and one indie? 3 anti-town are dead so I guess that means there's 3 left.

The reasons against me are

EM's interactions with camo
lurking
LaL

I've refuted all of these, and provided strong evidence against scattered.
Could we see your "decisive evidence", then? It's possible I missed it, but from what I know it's nowhere to be seen. Haven't found it in the last few pages, either.
 
All right, I'm here for tonight. I'll make another post later after I've caught up reading the latest posts.
 
bbninjas said:
@TGK please remind town that Camo is scum and scum lie

Actually, that recent post of SS is classic scum SS IF grant flips town. Pushing hard on the lynch that is going to happen... basically trying to make sure he can't be persecuted for being on a town wagon.
 
@Skyleaf2000
I was hoping for a post like that. To be honest my suspicion is slightly fading. I more inclined to think that you're just kinda lazy :p

Okay, what in the world can I do to prove I am town? I see no possible way I can look town to you because I've been playing completely honestly this entire game. I AM TOWN. Oh, but wait, you can't take my word on it. So what do you want me to do???
Wait, now you'll say that this is just a scum asking how to not appear scum. So no matter what I do, I will always look scummy because my responses to your cases on me apparently aren't viable. As I've said before, there is no possible way for me to be town in your eyes.

It's your line of thinking though that got you into this position. Everyone needs a little suspicion so that they don't instantly become night bait. It's that very line of town play and scum actions that keeps us alive. And I guess it's especially hard for a wolf to find the right balance. They want to seem like they're helping a good cause, but on the other hand they don't want to turn the game too much against their side. Problem is I haven't see you do any kind of provoking to lure out scum. You say you want to help out town but you keep too much of a distance. Get more involved! I think that is what a town should be doing. What I think is funny about this situation is that I said something very similar in the beginning of this game. But I got some good advice from Celever who was trying to make me think he was on my side. Not posting or only posting small statements is pretty much scum play anyway you look at it. Also the fact that you don't provide much because everything has been said already I find hard to swallow. Everyone has some information or at least they're own view on things.

don't think I made this up just to counter your statement.

That is no guarantee you didn't, so I guess this is a dead end.

How can you prove those were lies?

You said you were going to read everything back, so we should at least be able to assume that you are fully informed on everything that has happened. But still you seem to have missed some important information (I didn't even mention the part were you forgot PMJ flipped scum) So you probably skimmed the posts really quickly or just didn't pay attention. In that case you may as well not tell us you're going to read everything back...

Also depending what happens tonight town's victory might be confirmed already. ಠ_ಠ I will tell more about it tomorrow depending on the circumstances.
 
Here is my defense

Guess who's on my suspect list? Scattered.

"SCATTERED QUOTE (idk how to quote quotes) By that logic you should also find Squirtle Squad scummy. In fact, you should find him more scummy than me, since I never defended Celever explicitly. I just didn't think the case on him is strong. Oh and I'm not the only one (bbninjas).
<END scattered quote

Yes you didn't explicitly, that's what makes it sneaky. Last minute push on drac to avoid cel scumbuddy lynch. Ofc Celever goes with that, so you only need two more votes (or simsand's vote), not a bad play at all. Given that you were the only one to push drac and that you revived your case at the last second in a desperate attempt to save cel. yes, very convenient to agree with now confo-town (bbninjas) who happened to view cel as town. This makes me very sure that you are scum.

Guess what? The lie in my posts was when i said drac is neutral or slightly scummy. I said that to not really give anything away as I felt it a fairly neutral post. In fact, I had just found out that drac was town. I didn't bring that up because I thought KX was still the better lynch than cel and I didn't think about this scattered + cel plan. Also I knew that drac would likely not get lynched, if I thought he was in real danger I wouldve come forward. this is relevant now because it clears (at least for me) drac as being town, but highly increases the odds of scattered being scum. After all, why would scattered randomly pop up with his days old case against drac (who is town) when he's the only one who thought drac was scum IN ORDER TO SAVE CELEVER!

Does this mean that there is 4 scum and 2 indies? 5 scum and one indie? 3 anti-town are dead so I guess that means there's 3 left.

In response to people saying I know there's only three scum, lol. False. I meant that we'd have a perfect game THUS FAR if we get scum today. Just a random thought that I found cool. Don't need to jump down my throat over it. Three scum seems really low, especially with the low power of the scum roles we've seen so far. IGNORE CAMO LOL!!!! He loves messing with people and spitting out WIFOM lies and nonsense.

BUT WAIT THERES MORE

Drac is maya guys! Come on you can see why I'd be hesitant to reveal that considering tgk has been a huge asset.
 
Anyway, you revealing that was incredibly anti-town, since it's possible the scum didn't notice the slip.
 
Now I regret I didn't place my vote earlier. You could just reveal your own role, but no let's claim Drac is Maya.

VOTE##:Grant1999
 
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