@Luispipe8 @King Xerneas I see you viewing the thread. What are your thoughts?
Took a look at this and realized it applies to me fairly well. I'll try to address the questions I've missed if any, and I don't know how to scumhunt, but if someone told me how I could at least try.Jesi lynch:
- Avoiding questions
- Defensive after minimal pressure
- Not scumhunting at all even after being called up about it
- Lots of rubbish posts
- Prominently defending players but thinks noone is scum
- Very flippy
I think this itself is a big reason why we should lynch Celever.Okay, now I have really big reason to lynch you! Everyone, listen up: I revealed that I had found simsands as Phoenix in the deadchat. Camo then posted a strange sentence in the deadchat, telling me it was a message to quote so the scum would kill a cultist. I did believe that (and got played), and posted it, and it looked like this:
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thr...urders-everywhere.131958/page-58#post-2797345
Here it is. If you take the first letter of every word you get TGKFOUNDPWITINFIRSTVEWVOTES, or TGK found P.W. within first few votes. In the deadchat, I said first three votes, not first few. Who did I vote for the first three?
- Camo (Flipped Scum)
- Celever
- simsands
Camo told the deadchat he'd manipulate my power to pass cryptic messages back to the scumteam. because you and camo were scum you instantly knew who Phoenix was by process of elimination. Naturally you'd want to keep your sources to your chest, it's Camo.
More votes, everyone, I'm sure of this.
Celever, you want reads: I've got a big fat scum read on you.
Must be some pretty big traffic. :OIn traffic will talk later
The doc is dead. Also, here are the only posts I directly mention simsands all day:When I saw the slip, I outed Phoenix. There's a chance the scum saw the slip too, and I wanted to give the doc knowledge about who to target.
You wanna talk about someone else for the first time today or..?
All I said here was I've been townreading him.I've been townreading simsands, can someone explain the case on him to me?
Here I say "I know he's town" not "I know he's Phoenix". Considering how many QTs and information I have access to, why did you assume Phoenix?it would be the simsands one because I know he's town.
Slip is underlined.You can go
[.quote=person you are quoting] to start it, but without the dot, and do [./quote] to end it, again without the dot.
I'll reveal why I know he's town when I need to.
No, every single post I made has been unedited in any way. As confotown I have no reason to hide any information that I'd give you, and if I did change anything it would be the simsands one because I know he's town.
Nice try, but I've already flipped town. Why are you trying to pin a confirmed town as scum? Getting desperate?
##VOTE: Celever
He's scum, guys. I'm sure of it. He didn't fully read my role PM when I flipped (questioning how I got deadchat information when it clearly said in my role that I could see the deadchat.), and now he's trying to call me as scum when I've already flipped town. Why would he do this? Two options:
1) He thinks I didn't die and just flipped and is trying to push a lynch on me to remove the link to the deadchat.
2) He knows I've already died and can't die again so he's pushing a lynch on me to waste a day.
Neither of these are town moves. Got you.
I have multiple QTs and, counting dead players as well as those who have claimed, access to at least a third of the role PMs in the game. With that knowledge, "I know X is town" doesn't translate to "I know X is Phoenix" quite as well, does it? I said "I know he's town" - that means it could have been Maya or anyone else who's role PM I've found through various role results from the dead QT or beyond. I have the most information out of anyone in the game right now except for maybe the scumteam if they have investigative abilities. You conveniently started using "Phoenix" to refer to simsands after Camo's message.Slip is underlined.
To your above post: we can see flips. We know there's no harboured info from dead players. Besides PMJ, of course, but he had a scum read on simsands earlier. I didn't factor in Maya, but after I translated the message (which, by the way, you don't have to be scum to do) the two variables creating the same target made it by far the likeliest scenario.
And then I took a page out of the games and bluffed, which evidently worked. Telling the other players that you knew simsands was Phoenix was a huge error on your part, which is the only way I could have known about this.
However, I know Wendy is town through other means.
IF YOU'VE GOT A SCUM READ ON ME, BUILD A CASE. THE AMOUNT OF VOTES I HAVE WITHOUT A CASE IS ACTUALLY ABHORRENT. THERE HAS BEEN NO REASONING PROVIDED AND SCUM ARE JUST BANDWAGONING ON THIS BECAUSE THEY CAN. STOP TUNNELLING AND LOOK AT IT FROM A REAL PERSPECTIVE!
Good plan!Me just a question: about the conspiracy that tgk could be scum. Can't we just confirm it by voting him and then look at the vote count? Because.. if he is in the vote count he is still lynchable and the only way it is logical is when he is scum?
I didn't know how much information you had because you didn't make it public, so you can't indict me of doing something which goes against information I never had when it's all circumstantial anyway.I have multiple QTs and, counting dead players as well as those who have claimed, access to at least a third of the role PMs in the game. With that knowledge, "I know X is town" doesn't translate to "I know X is Phoenix" quite as well, does it? I said "I know he's town" - that means it could have been Maya or anyone else who's role PM I've found through various role results from the dead QT or beyond. I have the most information out of anyone in the game right now except for maybe the scumteam if they have investigative abilities. You conveniently started using "Phoenix" to refer to simsands after Camo's message.
I did build a case on you. It was weak, but I kept tunnelling you until you slipped further and further, and it evidently worked. You're panicking and in a last-ditch effort to save yourself.
thegrovylekid said:You can go
[.quote=person you are quoting] to start it, but without the dot, and do [./quote] to end it, again without the dot.
I'll reveal why I know he's town when I need to.
No, every single post I made has been unedited in any way. As confotown I have no reason to hide any information that I'd give you, and if I did change anything it would be the simsands one because I know he's town.
Nice try, but I've already flipped town. Why are you trying to pin a confirmed town as scum? Getting desperate?
##VOTE: Celever
He's scum, guys. I'm sure of it. He didn't fully read my role PM when I flipped (questioning how I got deadchat information when it clearly said in my role that I could see the deadchat.), and now he's trying to call me as scum when I've already flipped town. Why would he do this? Two options:
1) He thinks I didn't die and just flipped and is trying to push a lynch on me to remove the link to the deadchat.
2) He knows I've already died and can't die again so he's pushing a lynch on me to waste a day.
Neither of these are town moves. Got you.
Knock yourself out, Celever. Here is my case. You're scummy, you've slipped, and now you've taken the first out to OMGUS me.Okay, now I have really big reason to lynch you! Everyone, listen up: I revealed that I had found simsands as Phoenix in the deadchat. Camo then posted a strange sentence in the deadchat, telling me it was a message to quote so the scum would kill a cultist. I did believe that (and got played), and posted it, and it looked like this:
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thr...urders-everywhere.131958/page-58#post-2797345
Here it is. If you take the first letter of every word you get TGKFOUNDPWITINFIRSTVEWVOTES, or TGK found P.W. within first few votes. In the deadchat, I said first three votes, not first few. Who did I vote for the first three?
- Camo (Flipped Scum)
- Celever
- simsands
Camo told the deadchat he'd manipulate my power to pass cryptic messages back to the scumteam. because you and camo were scum you instantly knew who Phoenix was by process of elimination. Naturally you'd want to keep your sources to your chest, it's Camo.
More votes, everyone, I'm sure of this.
Celever, you want reads: I've got a big fat scum read on you.