What are we getting in Noble Victories?

kfitch06

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All these Japanese sets coming out are throwing me off. Is there any news on what exactly the Noble Victories set will consist of? Will it just be a culmination of the recent Japanese B&W sets? Or an English version of one set in particular?

Sorry if this the wrong sub-forum...I'm still getting the hang of this place.
 
I believe that Noble Victories is more or less Red Collection. However, the official list hasn't been revealed so we could get some English-only cards or maybe (very very unlikely) something from PD-HB. Don't count on the last one though.
 
We know from the Noble Victories sell sheet that the set has more than 100 cards, so it's more than simply Red Collection (72 cards). Almost certainly, they'll put the 14 cards from the Victini Formation Decks into Noble Victories, making 86.

As for the pieces left, my guess is BW-P Promos and English-exclusives. Of the promos, Zebstrika is the most likely because there's a Blitzle in the Victini Decks. Some other BW-P promos that might be in NV include Haxorus, Bisharp, Emolga, Druddigon, Golurk and Reuniclus, or they might keep some of those as English promos.

Maybe they'll make some new Roggenrola/Boldore and Timburr/Gurdurr cards to go with Gigalith and Conkeldurr. If they use the Reuniclus promo, maybe there will be new Solosis and Duosion cards. BW had spring Deerling/Sawsbuck and EP had summer D/S so maybe our autumn set (NV) will have an English-exclusive autumn D/S.

Assuming every single one of the cards I've brought up is in NV (which even I doubt), that's 101 cards. Either way, I think it's unlikely that we'll get anything that came after Red Collection in Japan. They seem to be pretty good with not mixing up future sets into the English releases; at worst, they save a few cards for a later English, like how they pushed back Darkrai/Cresselia until the Darkrai movie was dubbed. (For Noble Victories, though, we already know that Victini is in the set and has multiple cards.)
 
Practically red collection, and possibly promos/three musketeer theme deck cards if they havent all been released yet.[/align]
 
Darkvoid57 said:
possibly promos/three musketeer theme deck cards if they havent all been released yet

We've gotten all of the cards from the Battle Strength Decks except for a lone Lillipup, but there aren't any Herdier/Stoutland cards out in Japan right now except for the one of each that appeared in BW1. So that Lillipup could be in Noble Victories, but they'd likely be making an English-exclusive Herdier/Stoutland since they've mostly avoided having incomplete lines in the English BW sets so far. Only Timburr/Gurdurr, since Gigalith was in EP.
 
I'm thinking that they might also include 1 or 2 of the secret rare shiny pokemon from HB and PD since those have already been released.
 
"• Five amazing cards with art covering the
entire card, including the mysterious N!"

Victini, N, Virizion, Terrakion, Cobalion?

Or, instead of the musketeers, maybe some of the EX cards from PD or HB.
 
manaphee said:
Victini, N, Virizion, Terrakion, Cobalion?

Or, instead of the musketeers, maybe some of the EX cards from PD or HB.

While of course nobody knows for certain right now, I would say there's like a 99.99999% chance that the five full arts are the ones from Red Collection. I just can't see why they would introduce EX Pokemon in Noble Victories when they still have non-EX full arts to release first.
 
Frost said:
BW had spring Deerling/Sawsbuck and EP had summer D/S so maybe our autumn set (NV) will have an English-exclusive autumn D/S.

Oh wow, this fits so perfectly I'm surprised I haven't seen it mentioned before.

Although if it was just a coincidence and we dont't get a third one in NV I'll now be disappointed.
 
I think there's a decent chance that it might happen, considering the summer Deerling and Sawsbuck were English-exclusives at first for presumably the sake of being included in the English summer set.
 
Now who's to say that it'd be english exclusive ;) Even the supposed "english exclusive" cards from the prior set were in Japan first by way of production technicalities. BW3 was announced back in June (along with a handful of other things which ended up in that set) which means the development of cards was already well underway, which is where the English cards would have been pilfered from.

We've got three big deck kits coming out of Japan next month for which any cards from it could, and most likely will be, in Noble Victories. ReshiramEX and ZekromEX decks, in addition to the Tornadus vs Thundurus gift kit. The only cards we know of from those so-far is ReshiramEX/ZekromEX (won't be in this set), Thundurus, Tornadus, Victini, Reshiram, Zekrom, and Landorus (SR Full Art).
 
Oh for sure, I just use "English-exclusive" in this case because it's shorter than typing out "a card that is coming out in English first before Japan gets it," lol. A bit lazy, I know. But I mean, has there ever been a card that remained truly exclusive to the west and never made it over to Japan eventually? :p

Is Landorus the only known (non-EX) FA in those decks/kits? If there's more, I do wonder into which set they'll add them. It seems from the sell sheet that NV's five are going to be the ones from Red Collection, and presumably we'll be getting the EX cards debuting in the English February set... unless they push them back to May and use the February set to stick any remaining regular FAs.
 
Blegh, I feel like it takes them too long to just get on with releasing new Pokemon. They seem to trickle out a few at a time with each set, while the majority of the set is new cards of Pokemon that have already been released in card-form. I'm sure it's all good and well for players, since the movesets vary and help your decks out, but for a collector like myself it is aggravating. I want to see more Pokemon that weren't released in previous sets.
 
Frost said:
Oh for sure, I just use "English-exclusive" in this case because it's shorter than typing out "a card that is coming out in English first before Japan gets it," lol. A bit lazy, I know. But I mean, has there ever been a card that remained truly exclusive to the west and never made it over to Japan eventually? :p

Is Landorus the only known (non-EX) FA in those decks/kits? If there's more, I do wonder into which set they'll add them. It seems from the sell sheet that NV's five are going to be the ones from Red Collection, and presumably we'll be getting the EX cards debuting in the English February set... unless they push them back to May and use the February set to stick any remaining regular FAs.

Hahah, only a very select handful of promos and even then there are some sort of equivalent-based card in Japan. Go figure XD

From what I know (and at the moment that's not much, we've basically got a general run of listings on online stores and a prelim image) it's the only SR card in that deck kit. They made a pretty big deal about it, and it's good it's happening because they sort of nerfed Landy by making him the RC box promo in Japan, which is why the SR full art isn't coming until this kit in October.


kfitch06 said:
Blegh, I feel like it takes them too long to just get on with releasing new Pokemon. They seem to trickle out a few at a time with each set, while the majority of the set is new cards of Pokemon that have already been released in card-form. I'm sure it's all good and well for players, since the movesets vary and help your decks out, but for a collector like myself it is aggravating. I want to see more Pokemon that weren't released in previous sets.

It's trickling in the sense of older generations at the moment. Hail Blizzard and Psycho Drive have gotten a good basic start to it, but the truth of the matter there is that Gen V sells. It's selling phenomenally. Both internationally but especially in Japan. It's a shame they're really stuffing the English sets around though, since there has been a huge variety in Japan in my opinion with very little cross over. BW1 saw a huge chunk of Unova done, while BW2 finished the run, and BW3 is now bringing in the variety.

Give it up until probably BW4 until we start seeing some serious variety start, which'll likely be next year February in Japan.
 
Yeah, we'll see! It'll be interesting to see how it turns out.

By the way, is there a reason the Black and White cards are essentially worth pennies? Is it because they're brand new and therefore mass produced? Do all new sets start off essentially worthless?
 
All new sets start off with little to no value outside of the rarer to pull cards such as SR and UR cards (and even then unless it's extremely elusive it stays relatively low unless it's again said SR/UR cards). It's why you jump on the sets ASAP if you're a collector so you can accrue a full set without paying a heinous price. Down the track and certainly after they've been rotated out thus won't be sold anywhere outside of second hand on eBay and the likes they're just harder to obtain.
 
Blegh, I feel like it takes them too long to just get on with releasing new Pokemon. They seem to trickle out a few at a time with each set, while the majority of the set is new cards of Pokemon that have already been released in card-form.

I kind of like that they needed three English sets to cover all 153 released Unova Pokemon. It feels like a throwback to 1999, when we got Base Set, Jungle and Fossil released back to back and they introduced all 150 Kanto Pokemon to the TCG. Only this time, the BW equivalents to Jungle and Fossil are much bigger in size, so they didn't need to inflate the tiny set counts with rare/holo reprints.

Sure, it seems like the English TCG is being slower than Japan because it took us three sets vs. Japan's two sets, but there was a seven month gap between B/W (December 17) and Red Collections (July 15), and that's about how long the gap was between April 25 (BW US) and November 16 (NV), if not slightly longer.
 
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