XY XY in France?!

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Blob55 said:
Tam said:
Europe-based would have been better, but I certainly don't think Germany or London would've been better than Paris. Paris is much more stylistic and distinctive. London isn't much different from New York culturally, plus it would've been so annoying had they done somewhere in the UK... that would just be over-Westernising things, ick (given they already did the US. Come on, have a bit of imagination... must we all centre our lives around these two countries?! I'm sick to death of all things British/American at this stage)

France is a nice, pretty place with a lot of inspiring characteristics. It'll be interesting to see, imo.

First of all, France is a "Western" country, second London is a lot different from NY, as NY has far more skyscrapers and London has a lot more older buildings. You're just acting like London doesn't have any notable landmarks, because the people there speak English. Third "British/American at stage" what are you talking about? Most of the regions are based in Japan anyway.

The UK and the US dominate Western culture to a frustrating extent. I'm sick of them in the media in general, not in the games- Pokémon is Japanese, it can easily afford to not pander to the usual cliches and not act like the UK and America are the only places that matter! London really isn't vastly different enough from NY to make it interesting, imo. London has notable landmarks just like everywhere else, but why do London when you could do somewhere totally different with a much greater contrast to what's been done before?
 
Tam said:
Blob55 said:
First of all, France is a "Western" country, second London is a lot different from NY, as NY has far more skyscrapers and London has a lot more older buildings. You're just acting like London doesn't have any notable landmarks, because the people there speak English. Third "British/American at stage" what are you talking about? Most of the regions are based in Japan anyway.

The UK and the US dominate Western culture to a frustrating extent. I'm sick of them in the media in general, not in the games- Pokémon is Japanese, it can easily afford to not pander to the usual cliches and not act like the UK and America are the only places that matter! London really isn't vastly different enough from NY to make it interesting, imo. London has notable landmarks just like everywhere else, but why do London when you could do somewhere totally different with a much greater contrast to what's been done before?

I don't have a problem with France being a non-English speaking country, I just don't think it's major enough to be a region. At least not just yet, considering the last one was America.
 
Blob55 said:
In generations 1 and 5, GF went for two major cities; Tokyo and New York. In Gen 6, they go for a much smaller city; Paris and I think this is unfair. It's not that I hate France or anything, it's just that I think GF should of either gone for a whole continent, like last time(Unova was shaped like NY, but was based the whole of America)

Where are you getting your info for that? According to this, almost all of Unova is based on NY.

It sounds like what you're saying is "Paris doesn't have enough people/isn't big enough to warrant a Pokemon region".

Why does the population or size of the city matter at all? Paris is a city that's teeming with history and landmarks, and it would make an excellent basis for a region because of that. And besides, it isn't like the entire region is going to look like Paris; iirc there was even a desert area in the XY trailer. There's nothing to worry about, it'll be cool as always.
 
Starboard Driger said:
Blob55 said:
In generations 1 and 5, GF went for two major cities; Tokyo and New York. In Gen 6, they go for a much smaller city; Paris and I think this is unfair. It's not that I hate France or anything, it's just that I think GF should of either gone for a whole continent, like last time(Unova was shaped like NY, but was based the whole of America)

Where are you getting your info for that? According to this, almost all of Unova is based on NY.

It sounds like what you're saying is "Paris doesn't have enough people/isn't big enough to warrant a Pokemon region".

Why does the population or size of the city matter at all? Paris is a city that's teeming with history and landmarks, and it would make an excellent basis for a region because of that. And besides, it isn't like the entire region is going to look like Paris; iirc there was even a desert area in the XY trailer. There's nothing to worry about, it'll be cool as always.

Unova is based visually on NY, but it has a desert, tropical beach ect... none of those things are in New York.
 
Blob55 said:
Starboard Driger said:
Where are you getting your info for that? According to this, almost all of Unova is based on NY.

It sounds like what you're saying is "Paris doesn't have enough people/isn't big enough to warrant a Pokemon region".

Why does the population or size of the city matter at all? Paris is a city that's teeming with history and landmarks, and it would make an excellent basis for a region because of that. And besides, it isn't like the entire region is going to look like Paris; iirc there was even a desert area in the XY trailer. There's nothing to worry about, it'll be cool as always.

Unova is based visually on NY, but it has a desert, tropical beach ect... none of those things are in New York.

And yet you have absolutely no clue about the routes and areas in the new region; Paris does not have a beach either, nor deserts or mountains, but I am sure we are going to see some extreme environments again. I actually recall seeing a desert in a previous released screenshot.

The entire region is not going to be a copy of France, they do not stick to the actual environments as you said yourself, they only use the shape of it, and some minor influences.
 
Flygon2071 said:
If that is your logic, it should have been New Mexico (the second biggest city in the world by Population just after Tokyo).

>New Mexico
>a city
 
Cinesra said:
Flygon2071 said:
If that is your logic, it should have been New Mexico (the second biggest city in the world by Population just after Tokyo).

>New Mexico
>a city

Unova was based on NY and Regions haven't been based on an entire country (the first 4 were regions and Unova was on a city).
 
SheNinja said:
7th gen should be in Antartica :p

Only wild Pokemon would be Piplup, Prinplup, and Empoleon. I would actually really like that.
 
PyroKinesis said:
I suppose this just proves that they are finally running out of Japanese locales.
Maybe they just want to expand their horizons? Also, I bet gen7 will be in Australia.
 
Very narrow thinking I must say. I don't think they base it on how large a city is and if you cut away the "bigness" factor and put in it's place a "importance/history" factor we start to see why Paris and France in general (or if it's Europe) is rock solid choice. I am American but it you think about it in the long (but short) history of man, New York is a newcomer, a baby. Even Tokyo isn't as old as Paris is. If GF can effectively tap into the history and lore of Paris/France/Europe and make it their own they have SO MUCH to go off of. I am very excited about Paris as a choice and some of us may not like it or cause it's used a lot for jokes but historically speaking France has played a major role in the world history of mankind.
 
Flygon2071 said:
If that is your logic, it should have been New Mexico (the second biggest city in the world by Population just after Tokyo).

Assuming you're meaning Mexico City, instead of New Mexico which is a state in USA ;)
 
Not to be a troll or anything but, how is this topic any relevant to how good/bad XY would be? I don't really see the need of why people should be complaining to GF for their choice of model for the new region. It's only worth discussing if the region in question had a race-related problem or something.

I dunno about you guys but Pokemon is targetting little children until now. Would they even care what the region is based off? So as long as the graphics are pretty and the story/plot has some relevance, the game would sell a lot. I don't think people are going to go "Oh I'm not buying X/Y because the region resembles France and not Germany/Tokyo/Mars"
 
Riskbreakers said:
Not to be a troll or anything but, how is this topic any relevant to how good/bad XY would be? I don't really see the need of why people should be complaining to GF for their choice of model for the new region. It's only worth discussing if the region in question had a race-related problem or something.

Don't you know the point of the Pokemon fandom is to just complain about everything?
 
Some Loser said:
Riskbreakers said:
Not to be a troll or anything but, how is this topic any relevant to how good/bad XY would be? I don't really see the need of why people should be complaining to GF for their choice of model for the new region. It's only worth discussing if the region in question had a race-related problem or something.

Don't you know the point of the Pokemon fandom is to just complain about everything?

That's just you guys. Complain about something of relevance.
 
This is a Blob55 thread, why do you even bother arguing against her.
 
I also kind of find at annoying that Fairy type may be revealed here, because a long time ago, people believed that Fairies were the original inhabitants of England.

Ysmir said:
Very narrow thinking I must say. I don't think they base it on how large a city is and if you cut away the "bigness" factor and put in it's place a "importance/history" factor we start to see why Paris and France in general (or if it's Europe) is rock solid choice. I am American but it you think about it in the long (but short) history of man, New York is a newcomer, a baby. Even Tokyo isn't as old as Paris is. If GF can effectively tap into the history and lore of Paris/France/Europe and make it their own they have SO MUCH to go off of. I am very excited about Paris as a choice and some of us may not like it or cause it's used a lot for jokes but historically speaking France has played a major role in the world history of mankind.

So London DOESN'T have any History?
 
I am simply showing you that what makes a city isn't just it's size now if you go back to your OP you were basing your opinion on solely the size of a city. I simply pointed out that it's not only a size that makes a city important it's also it's influence, history, mythology, and so on. I mean you really compared NYC to it and like I said I'm an American and I am very proud American but come on! New York (and US in general) are newcomers when it comes to history (specifically history of man/civilization). London....I have nothing against it. Like I said was just pointing out the one-sided ness of your theory.
 
Since there is a Stone Henge resemblign structure on the west coast of Kalos, I think they've heard my wish telepathically...errr I mean, it seems they'll use inspiration from places besides France.

I don't see whats the big deal with wanting it to be based on the UK. UK would make a horrible pokemon region due to its shape already. I'd also rather pick France than UK if I was gonna make a region out of it.

EDIT:
I just realized the megalithic structures are based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnac_stones
damn this is the most accurate Pokémon region so far O:
 
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