YanPhan (Yanmega/Donphan/Slowking)

[Clownshateu2]

YanPhan

Hey Pokebeach! After considering Canada and U.S. National results, I formulated a deck with the cards available to me. Needless to say on a side note, Yanmega has grown quite the controversey and lets see it in action next season!

So the strategy here is to swarm with Yanmega and Donphan (although the odd combination) for quick damage and heavy tanking (along with sniping). Following multiple Judges and Copycats, Slowking is able to control their top decks rather easily (unless they have Ninetails) and control the game.

So before I lay down the list, I am going to rate the deck based on the PokeCommunity's opinions and point of views:

Speed: 9/10: Being able to set up by Turn 2 is an excellent feat and can change a game drastically.

Engine: 6/10: Without any Pokemon draw engine (such as Ninetails or Magnezone), the deck relies on Slowking to help out your next draw along with multiple Judges and Copycats for refreshment.

Damage Output: 6/10: Doing between 60-90 damage is fair game, and generally 2HKO any Pokemon (Exceptions such as Tyranitar and Zekrom).

Late-Game (Longetitvity): 9/10: With Rescue Energies, one energy attacks, and Stage 1 Pokemon, the deck can stay in the game for quite a while and remains at peak performance.

Board Control/Game Control: 8/10: Unless your opponent has a Ninetails or Magnezone down, Slowking paired with a Judge is truley devestating and can decide an entire game.

Matchups: 7/10: Overall, the deck has fairly good matchups, mostly even (Such as Reshiboar, Blastgatr, Cinccino). The good matchups of course are Zekrom (being able to one shot with EQ after they Bolt Strike or even with a Plus Power) and Magnezone. However, versus Kindgra/Yanmega, it turns to be a VERY close game on who sets up first. Agianst Beartic/Vileplume, the matchup is TERRIBLE unless you attack straight Yanmega or deny their Vileplume setup.

Overall, the deck has good ratings and see it being competitive: Key Factor: Board Control and Speed.

So here is my list!

Pokemon- 17
3 Yanma
3 Yanmega
3 Phanpy
3 Donphan
2 Slowpoke
2 Slowking
1 Jirachi

T/S/S
4 Pokemon Collector
2 Duel Ball
4 Pokemon Communication
4 Pokemon Reversal (Or Catcher when Released)
3 Professor Elms Training Method
4 Judge
4 CopyCat
2 Switch
3 Junk Arm
2 Plus Power

Energy
2 Rainbow
2 Rescue
6 Fighting

Jirachi is used (in unsion) with Yanmega to De-Evolute Massive HP Stage 2's (and Stage 1's) to their basic form and get an effective prize card.


Please comment and suggest new ideas! PEACE!

 

[Clownshateu2]

BUMP!

 

[Zhaituki]

I think properly built TyphloRam (like my variation) could aswell be hardest matchup for this deck. It's just that you can't really slow it, cus it aswell sets up in T2. and then can keep swarming and do huge 120 dmg with just like 10-20 dmg recoil (due to afterburner)... i always get Typhlosion, ninetails and reshiram on the field T2. usually outrage ready if not blue flare ready. Even KingCino's speed along with 100 hitting Cinccino and 160 hitting (weakness) water arrow kingdra are not enough to stop it really.

Just saying that so that you should too try not to forget this threatening but underestimated deck TyphloRam.

But for the deck comments: Jirachi is not all that good even in sniping deck like this. You don't manage to use it against properly built evolution decks. So i think remove that jirachi and add plus power to gain bit better chance against some of those hard to beat decks due to high hp and power.

 

[Clownshateu2]

Reshiboar beats Thypolsion/Reshiram. When you add that damage counter to Reshiram, what does it equal? 10 + 120 = ?. Oh wait. 130. Reshiboar is indefinably better in aspect. Dont rant about your deck, this is about suggestion to a strategy, not a lecture. And you cannot always get all three Pokemon down on the feild. The average chance of drawing into each aspected card is 40% (even if you run 4 each) deducted by Prizes, Hand.

And guess what? What does a T1 Judge equal? Figure it out and suggest, not declare your deck the greatest.

Jirachi isnt good? Save the rescue energies when Jirachi can take 3 prizes EASILY off your 60 HP Cydiquils and Vulpix.

Its called disruption. And obviously you are new to the game if you havnt read why this deck is good. Back up.

 

[Dork Void]

This is a good deck list but it has a small amount of basics. However, as you are using stage 1s I don't think you need 4 Communications and 3 PETMs. Same with the Collectors and Dual Balls. I would recomment removing 1-2 PETMs and 1-2 Dual Balls for some Bouffoulant and DCE, which would be pretty much your only way to prevent losing at least 4 prizes to RDL if it gets set up, as well as providing cheap, decent power.

 

[Zhaituki]

I'm not exactly a new player, i know ReshiBoar counters TyphloRam, but TyphloRam has better matchups against most other decks than ReshiBoar. Jirachi only reverts back by one stage. and at next turn i can easily evolve them again. Since attacking ends your turn up. But well apparently us Finnish players use strange style in your USA players' eyes. ^^

I've anyways teched my list that way that it gets the right cards at T2 almost certainly. Don't start claiming that you can disturb all TyphloRams cus what i've seen in these forums, most build it the wrong way. Same thing with most other evolution decks. (Example not enough candies or something).

 

[Clownshateu2]

But you self-proclaim yourself as your deck is "awsome" Am I not aloud to have opinion? Oh, and no disruption cards are imprervious to your deck? Jirachi counters any Stage 2 or Stage 1 by doing the damage of their basic (with Yanmega) and getting multiple prizes with a single "Time Hollow". Id rather not argue to get this thread closed, but I proved my point enough. No deck can ALWAYS set up T2 everytime in this season. Even ZPS

 

[Redsteal]

I'm not exactly a new player, i know ReshiBoar counters TyphloRam, but TyphloRam has better matchups against most other decks than ReshiBoar. Jirachi only reverts back by one stage. and at next turn i can easily evolve them again. Since attacking ends your turn up. But well apparently us Finnish players use strange style in your USA players' eyes. ^^

I've anyways teched my list that way that it gets the right cards at T2 almost certainly. Don't start claiming that you can disturb all TyphloRams cus what i've seen in these forums, most build it the wrong way. Same thing with most other evolution decks. (Example not enough candies or something).

Really you just need to take yourself somewhere, all you do is talk about how amazing your deck is and you never help anyone. so your decks good cool, thanks for stating that everywhere on here now move on. and btw you wont play anyone online with it cause you dont trust online consistency? well guess that means your list isnt all that great then if you are to afraid to use it online cause you will lose, oh and also i proxied up this deck of yours with the people at the league near me and i hate to tell you unless you sold your soul to the pagan luck god of your country your deck list is not that good at all, it was almost turn 4 before stuff was set up, so that = not good, and I even got my league leader to try and play it cause she plays reshiplsion and she said it was a garbage list. but thats just My 2 cents and probably all of pokebeach cause we are all sick of your gloating about a list thats not very good.

Now moving on to your deck list about Yanmega and Donphan I really like the slowking tech its nice I might add a Juniper or 2 in here just because sometimes you just need a better hand but I really like it, its a solid list its close to the list i run sept i opted for a 4-4 donphan with defenders just to a butt head at leagues to all the MAgnazone players there

 

[Zhaituki]

But you self-proclaim yourself as your deck is "awsome" Am I not aloud to have opinion? Oh, and no disruption cards are imprervious to your deck? Jirachi counters any Stage 2 or Stage 1 by doing the damage of their basic (with Yanmega) and getting multiple prizes with a single "Time Hollow". Id rather not argue to get this thread closed, but I proved my point enough. No deck can ALWAYS set up T2 everytime in this season. Even ZPS

If you can actually dmg them long enough, since Yanmega only does 40 dmg to one bench poke in single turn. While reshiram swarm can constantly do 120 dmg to your active yanmegas (Atleast from T3 if not T2). and Donphan's earthquake only hits your benched pokes.



T1 judge indeed doesn't disturb enough(Actually happened in previous league and it didn't disturb.), not to mention ninetales (Slowking's disturbion). All evolution decks can set up T2 fairly often (unless totally horrible luck) if they are built that way. Point proven?

But anyways not gonna prove my point more.

 

[Redsteal]

If you can actually dmg them long enough, since Yanmega only does 40 dmg to one bench poke in single turn. While reshiram swarm can constantly do 120 dmg to your active yanmegas (Atleast from T3 if not T2). and Donphan's earthquake only hits your benched pokes.



T1 judge indeed doesn't disturb enough(Actually happened in previous league and it didn't disturb.), not to mention ninetales (Slowking's disturbion). All evolution decks can set up T2 fairly often (unless totally horrible luck) if they are built that way. Point proven?

But anyways not gonna prove my point more.




Yea cause there is no point to prove beacuse after a turn one judge you are going to draw into the four cards you need everytime, its not possible every deck has its weakness and yours does to its not going to be able to recover from a turn one judge unless you draw into a god hand EVERY times which you cant
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[Clownshateu2]

All I am going to say is this: Its called Catcher. That Thypholsion. Send up Yanmega, I attack. Then use Jirachi for easy Prize without wasting attacker.

Did Reshiboar top cut Nationals and do good? No. Did Donphan Yanmega? It actually won Juniors and went FAR. Point Proven

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And I need VERY little cards. Can you not turn this into a deck fanboy arguement and atleast suggest something?

 

[Redsteal]

I also think you need on cleffa in here I know donphan does not play well with babies, he actually kills them in rage but I think its great if you need to get rid of that bad start or you need to get a hand mid game and you dont hit a supporter, and either way when catcher comes out babies are Free prizes anyway

 

[Zhaituki]

And why exactly are you saying ReshiBoar is same as TyphloRam? They work very differently. And those Reshiboars (or other good combos) at your nats might have been horribly built like most decks i've seen here. Emboar might be free prize, but Typhlo prime seriously ain't unless you ohko it which is really hard with this deck's dmg dealing amount. Typhlo prime has laughably cheap retreat, it can burn up energies. And i always try get more typhlo primes until i have 2-3 typhlo primes on field.

Most ppl playing at Helsinki's leagues have really good lists.

 

[Clownshateu2]

Dude stop. I ended this argument last post. If you think your players are great, why havnt you won any World tournaments? Stop bashing out country players, and to show off previous seasons in our eyes, you never were a challange.

Keep being a fanboy of Thypolosion and watch, Oh wait, dissapear into the Teir 1 and 2 decks that easily beat it. Stop making excuses of saying our country players are bad and actually win a tournament here for once.

Im done.

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And RedSteal, thanks for the comment. I like Cleffa, however, I seem to be prone to countless snipes from Yanmega and Mandibuzz and generally see it get killed by my own Donphan hah. Thanks though.

 

[Redsteal]

lol no problem at all it just helps a lot and like i said you use it when you need to and if you dont just junk arm it away lol

 

[Zhaituki]

We have won it atleast once, and usually placed high. btw TyphloRam IS Tier 1. Only Reshiboar and Magneboar have better than matchup 50-50 against it from Tier1/2 decks.

 

[Redsteal]

We have won it atleast once, and usually placed high. btw TyphloRam IS Tier 1. Only Reshiboar and Magneboar have better than matchup 50-50 against it from Tier1/2 decks.

DUDE Hush No one cares about your post if he says he dosent want to talk about it anymore then respect his wish and dont be a troll, stop shoving your deck down everyone's throat no one CARES, your just being an annoying troll. Give some help to the deck that hes posted or get of the Thread, plain and simple

 

[Clownshateu2]

Thanks man. Atleast some body has some constructive critism.... Updated!

 

[Matryoshka]

Please add the set that the Slowpokes and Phanpys are from. Thanks

Cut down on the flaming as well or the thread will be locked and warnings will be given out.

dmaster out.