RE: Why Seismitoad in Yveltal
bbninjas said:
Both Training Center (+30 HP) and the Mountain Ring are not worth using. You will find your deck needs that poison damage to take KOs. If you're really worried about damage to the bench, then you may like to include a Mr Mime PLS (I think). And in some matchups you won't bother setting up Garb.
That's kind of what i thought. I know, but Garb will save me against Lugia, Vir/Gen and Pyroar. I'm sure i'm forgetting a few that run off of effect. I just don't know if i have enough room for a Mr. Mime or if i shouldn't concern myself with it. I've been testing against a vir/gen and the Genesect has yet to kill anything on my bench. But darkrai, miiiight be able to pull it off. So i've have to keep an eye out for darkrai decks.
I'll post up my deck list, here shortly, so you can see what i'm trying to un-kink.
energyfullart(? said:
My list right now is:
11 pokemon
2 darkrai
3 yveltal
3 Yveltal-ex
2 seismitoad-EX
1 jirachi-ex
37 trainers
4 sycamore
4 N
2 colress
2 lysandre
3 vs seeker
2 enhanced hammer
4 HT.laser
1 switch
1 escape rope
3 ultra ball
4 muscle band
1 hard charm
2 head ringer
3 virbank city
1 computer search
12 energy
4 DCE
8 darkness
So, how do fair against ability decks? Lugia can 3 prize draw, Virizion is immune to your lasers. And Genesect can choose who to attack. Also, (not sure if you face them in your area) There's not a single creature in your deck that can attack Pyroar. Or shut down his effect. I think Garbador is a better option than Jirachi (he's the guy that allows you to draw a supporter, correct?) and maybe the Yveltals. I use a regular Yveltal myself. But he tends to get one shot-ed easily. I usually only get to use his attack once. For one energy and 30 damage. To me it seems better to just attach an energy and Virbank/Laser (on top of your attack) for +30.
I think it's a great deck! Just needs a little more variety to combat ability decks. as it stands, Vir/Gen and Pyroar would walk on that deck. Without the ability to shut down virizion it really is a waste to run lasers. I've ran into a Vir/Gen at every tourny i've gone to. So you have to expect that deck (at the very least, expect it in the top 8/16/32
but yea, against them it's 4 cards you can't even use. more if you have virbanks, i forgot to check.
One last thing now that i look at it.
I would ditch the 2 Colress you're running. And the Jirachi.
What if you draw Colress early? A Bicycle would be more beneficial than him (early on). I would replace him with Junipers, N's or Biancas.
And, what if you draw Jirachi first? You have to play him. And you're stuck drawing a supporter even if you already have one. That and can you use him to attack? If not then he's stuck up front taking damage (i think he's weak, like 130HP or something) and he's a 2 prize draw.