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kiko1kiko5

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4x Zekrom
2x Pachirisu CoL
2x Shaymin
1x Cleffa
1x Tyrogue
2-2 Yanmega PRIME

pokemon

4x Collector
1x Dual Ball
3x Copycat
2x Seeker
3x Juniper
2x SSU
3x Pluspower
4x Junk Arm
2x Energy retrieval
2x Switch
1x Revive
3x Pokemon Reversal \ Catcher
Trainer

16x Lighting Energy

Energy 16
 
RE: ZIPS

What's Light energy? I know that PMJ made a fake 'Light Energy'. If you're referring to Lightning (electric) energy, that was way too unclear for me.
Also, what's the 'I' doing in the title? It suggests a fourth main Pokemon is in the deck, beginning with I, but that's not the case again.
Please could you clean this up a bit for everyone else's sakes?
I know that I haven't commented on alterations to the deck itself, and that's because I need it to be clearer.
 
RE: ZIPS

Light Energy and Lightning are both Electric Energy.

I'd say take out 2 Cleffa (4 babies makes a lot of donk chances) for a Donphan counter. Probably a 1-1 Yanmega. It has resistance and is very good this format because it can be put into almost any deck.
 
RE: ZIPS

You need to add a Strategy to the decklist in the first post.

dmaster out.
 
RE: ZIPS

glaceon said:
I'd say take out 2 Cleffa (4 babies makes a lot of donk chances) for a Donphan counter. Probably a 1-1 Yanmega. It has resistance and is very good this format because it can be put into almost any deck.
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I agree with glaceon, but is there anything else to remove for some judge and copycat? I'm not good with ZPS decks.
 
RE: ZIPS

@#1 Weavile You are right. Adding Yanmega Prime also mean to add Copycat Judge (or at least Judge, since is very disruptive). Probably he will need more a 2-2 or 3-3 of Yanmega Prime, since without them it will have some problems against Donphan.
 
RE: ZIPS

-3 energy
+3 energy search (basically making it a 56 card deck instead of 60, helps a little bit for consistancy. 60-1 is worse than 56-1, while effectively keeping the same energy count. plus if your really in a pinch its like taking energy out of the discard pile if you use junkm arm for it)

- the babies. theyre good but overrated. i think.to each his own though
+2-2 yanmega at least, for consistancy. dont want your only yanma prized or vis versa
 
If you edit your first post, do it right. Change light energy to lightning energy and put that you have 14 pokemon 30 trainers because that's what it is now. It makes it much harder to change if you have the proportions wrong.
 
Give the guys a break you guys, he wants help with his deck list, not his layout :/

I wouldn't trust this deck in being able to set up off of Judge better than your opponent 100% of the time, Copycat is a much more beneficial play, you will have the same amount of cards in hand when you need Yanmega for late game, and it is better than Judge for T1 set up. Also please drop the babies, I don't really see them being able to help anything, and it just raises the possibly of you getting donked, and gives decks with Yanmega easy prizes. With those extra spaces I would add another Pachirishu and Shaymin, making it so you don't need the SSU, giving you 4 more free spaces (maybe leave one you can Junk Arm for later if you are desperate), which I would try filling with a Junk Arm and 2 more Dual Ball. Also I don't really like Seeker, the odds that you will be able to get the set up for yourself to donk without playing a Supporter, is kinda slim, especially because you are also relying on your opponent only having two basics. It is such a dead draw late game, I would drop 2 of them for Energy Search, because you can play it, get the energy you may need, then get it back with Junk Arm. In other words.

-3 Judge
-1 Tyrogue
-1 Cleffa
-3 SSU
-2 Seeker

+1 Shaymin
+1 Pachirishu
+3 Copycat
+1 Junk Arm
+2 Dual Ball
+2 Energy Search

Hope that you find this useful.
 
Wow, the forum has been changed o.o anyway....


IMO, you have too much energies (but it is just an opinion). You can remove at least 4 and add some trainers.

What I really don't see very useful is the babies. You only have one of each, and if your baby gets asleep and you can't wake him up AND your opponent has a sniper (such as Yanmega Prime) you will have a lot of problems if you don't get SSU. With those empty spaces you can add another line of Yanmega.

And about the I/S/S line, I really think you should add Revive, Dual Ball and maybe Judge (for more chances of activate Insight). Also, have you considered Defender? It is a useful card, you can protect yourself from the Bolt Tackle recoil.
 
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