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Ahhhh gotcha. Still not bad there's a lot of basics out there (Lugia, Virizion, Genesect, Darkrai, etc) and it does save a lot of space. It doesn't stop golbat or crobat but taking away the zubat Free flight, can frustrate some people. specially when they have to start with a zubat. I ran into...

Doesn't silent lab work to shut that down? I run silent lab instead of garbodor and it frustrates a lot of people. It's the only way i've found to slow up fairy decks and take away the max potions. Garbodor is cool and all but he's the main target for lysandres and megaphone shuts him down. i...

Yveltal is still a good hitter. should be alright against him. M-Gardevoir is what you really have to worry about with Yveltal. i think 6 energy on their field swings for 180. But the resistance makes it hard to KO. It might increase. Thinking of that, i wish there were an electric deck...

RE: Eviolite and Others That's perfect, thank you. I needed to confirm if there was a way, to block them from bench hitting. Night March, a crobat can be ugly against a Joltik.

That works. I didn't run a Darkrai, so i would've needed floats but with Darkrai Keldeo's perfect :) Used to run them and Sableye. pretty fun and potent deck (of course, not legal any more) **sigh**

RE: Eviolite and others http://pokebeach.com/scans/noble-victories/91-eviolite.jpg [hr] http://pokebeach.com/scans/phantom-forces/32-golbat.jpg http://pokebeach.com/scans/phantom-forces/33-crobat.jpg [hr] http://pokebeach.com/scans/furious-fists/97-mountain-ring.jpg

Does the Eviolite card protect against bats? (from lando-bats deck) If not, is there anything that would reduce the damage from them evolving? Such as a tool or a stadium.

I know, but once they're down on the field, toad can't stop you from discarding it from the field for the free promotion. And the Keldeo's require float stones, so he's a really heavy requirement tech. I loved him in my Blastoise deck :) the robos are best early on. get them onto your bench...

That's only 52% and that may be the general, for for what made it in, not what took first. And our top 16 had 4 or 5 lando-bats in it. So maybe the numbers are different for different regions. idk.

Hmmm. must've misplayed, i could've swore he attached one to active. Then he hid it on the bench for M-Gardevoir... I do like the idea of him as a switch, but i went with robo. They can't rush in but they're prizeless. and for wake up if i missed it on the roll, i had scoop ups :). I didn't...

A keldeo wouldn't be half bad. it would replace the robo substitutes. they were my Keldeo's in my deck list. Free prize KO which was nice. and you can discard and promote. Works soo much better than switch due to Toads shutting down items. You can still use his effect once it's in play :)...

That's not a bad idea for weakness. However only dealing 50-70 damage will really slow you down. Yveltal's 90-110 (and evil ball 60-80+ energy attached to opponent) is a lot harder hit and can OHKO. Also, keep in mind that Virizion can only attach grass energy to a grass type Pokemon. So you...

I understand. I just think Gengar is a little too slow for Yveltal. And without items, getting to M Gengar can be a pain, leading to skipped turns. it's the same at ours, we are not allowed to spectate. and i know gengar runs dimesion valley, but if a virbank laser hits the field for 60...

The Robo Substitutes are way better than switches. The idea is: after a KO, you promote a robo substitute. If they KO it, they activate your teammates (supporter) which is huge for hunting any cards you need including DCE. If they leave it alone, then you can discard it and promote. It's...

I understand. But it may have just had a lucky draw of opponents. And Toad WAS the second weakest deck at the tourny. Not a single toad deck made it to Top 16. In fact they were all sitting at the last 2 tables with me, all in dead last place. Just in front of a pikachu deck and the gengar...

I canceled this deck. 2 of them that i know of showed up at Colorado States and they got crushed. This deck wasn't even a threat, in fact compared to the other decks, it was laughable and considered a free win if you ended up facing it. Too slow and doesn't hit hard enough. I watched toad...

This is what my deck turned into. As well as results from Colorado States. http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/thread-tier-1-yveltal-ex-variants?pid=2707793#pid2707793

POKEMON: 10 2 Yveltal 78/146 XY 3 Yveltal Ex XY08 Promo 1 Yveltal EX 79/146 XY 3 Seismitoad EX 20/111 FFI 1 Seismitoad EX 106/111 FFI TRAINERS: 38 1x Scoop Up Cyclone 95/101 PLB 2x Virbank City Gym 126/135 PLS 4x Professor Juniper 84/101 PLB 4x N BW100, 96/108, 92/101, 92/101 3x Colress...

Without beaches being in play, i'm not too worried about most stadiums. Only the fighting.

To be honest with you, i have only basics in my deck. if i come up against Pyroar, i'm looking to beat his evolutions for KO's with Lysandre and Virbank/Lasers. My best advice from a somewhat newbie, that i've been learning, is to stop worrying about all of the individual decks and focus on my...