Hopefully there will be 4 full art ex's or I probably won't collect the set. Also this would be a bigger insult then Suicune.
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The only reason hawlucha ex didn't have a full art was because it was a promo in japan, so if diancie ex is part of phantom gate it will have a full artMaserati777 said:
We get Diancie, yes!!! The only reason I have to doubt it would be a Diancie EX as, with the exception of Garchomp EX, they haven't released an EX Pokemon capable of mega evolution without releasing the mega evolution itself. And we won't see Mega Diancie until at least after the release of ORAS. My guess is at least two Diancie, a new card and the one Cocoon of Destruction promo. Now if only Zygarde would come out here, but I almost guess probably not in this set.
Theme decks, what can I say. Well at least we get a shattered holo Garvantula. Not the biggest deal to most and it's not the most important to me, but I'd rather have a shattered holo in my pokedex binder than a reverse holo...unless that Garvantula is extremely worse than what is already there. Only time will tell. As for the set itself, I again am praying for ghost versions of the Aegislash line, alternate final evolution types for Kalos starters, and the fighting Pangoro.
So Shiftry is one of our promos. I wonder what the other three pack blister promo will be. The Meowstick that came out when Japan got Krookodile EX? Also, what about the promos for the checklane blisters? Again I pray for the fairy Dedenne.
I want more info, lolz. At least we should start getting more set info in the next week,
Theme decks, what can I say. Well at least we get a shattered holo Garvantula. Not the biggest deal to most and it's not the most important to me, but I'd rather have a shattered holo in my pokedex binder than a reverse holo...unless that Garvantula is extremely worse than what is already there. Only time will tell. As for the set itself, I again am praying for ghost versions of the Aegislash line, alternate final evolution types for Kalos starters, and the fighting Pangoro.
So Shiftry is one of our promos. I wonder what the other three pack blister promo will be. The Meowstick that came out when Japan got Krookodile EX? Also, what about the promos for the checklane blisters? Again I pray for the fairy Dedenne.
I want more info, lolz. At least we should start getting more set info in the next week,
GadgetJax
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So far so good! Galvantula's HP aside, it could end being at least moderately playable, but only time will tell. My biggest concern about Galvy, though, is that since it's available as the star of a theme deck, that means it's going to be a 'Rare' card, so our booster packs are 'cursed'. Man, and Furious Fists had it going pretty good... this also means, for all of you Japanese folk, that Galvantula will be a smooth holo in Phantom Gate. Is it just me, or does Galvantula look like the Ken Sugimori artwork??
Let me guess. Talonflame's deck will probably be fire psychic, while galvantula's would be lightning, and um uh um, either grass, water, or metal I guess.
RealSlim said:
Probably saving Zygarde for a set sometime in 2016 for the Z expansions, if 2015 sets are all ORAS sets, and assuming that Pokemon Z would be released late 2015 early 2016.
I am so indescribably excited to see that Talonflame is the star of a theme deck! Bird Pokémon are my favorite, so this is great to see. It's also crazy-exciting to think that we (assumably) have three in-set prints of Fletchling and Fletchinder already, all out of four XY sets. It's kind of strange, but I don't mind!
You know, I honestly hope it doesn't take us another year or two to get Zygarde as a Pokemon card. That would be ridiculous. Even having Diancie come out before Zygarde is kind of wrong. I suppose it is likely.
To clarify, I fully expect a Diancie EX, but not in this set (though I could very well be wrong). Even if we start getting OR/AS sets next year in February, I would expect the first three megas to be Sceptile, Swampert, and Blaziken. If that's right it'd be May before we got Mega Diance. Maybe the first set would have Blaziken and Swampert as megas, then the May set would have Mega Sceptile (Dragon) and Mega Diancie. Of course, long shot here, maybe in concurrence with the american release of Cocoon of Destruction we'd get a special thing that would have M. Diancie EX...okay, not likely but we can all dream and really who knows.
To clarify, I fully expect a Diancie EX, but not in this set (though I could very well be wrong). Even if we start getting OR/AS sets next year in February, I would expect the first three megas to be Sceptile, Swampert, and Blaziken. If that's right it'd be May before we got Mega Diance. Maybe the first set would have Blaziken and Swampert as megas, then the May set would have Mega Sceptile (Dragon) and Mega Diancie. Of course, long shot here, maybe in concurrence with the american release of Cocoon of Destruction we'd get a special thing that would have M. Diancie EX...okay, not likely but we can all dream and really who knows.
Just a reminder that there's no guarantee that Diancie will be an EX, in fact having it on the cover art almost solidifies the fact that it wont be (but I could be wrong). Look at TCPi's history when it comes to booster pack cover art, with the exception of Next Destinies (start of EXs) and XY Base set (they wanted to represent the new mega and new legendary) there has never been a set where all 4 cover artwork represents an EX.
Plasma Blast: EX Genesect, Palkia, Dialga, and non EX Porygon Z
Legendary Treasures: EX Mewtwo, Reshiram, Zekrom, and non EX Genesect
FlashFire: EX M Charizard (2), M Kangaskhan, and non EX Pyroar
Furious Fists: EX M Heracross, M Lucario, Hawlucha, and non EX Tyrantrum
Now with Phantom Forces we already have 3 confirmed EX cards represented on the covers, Aegislash, M Gengar, and M Manectric.
Plasma Blast: EX Genesect, Palkia, Dialga, and non EX Porygon Z
Legendary Treasures: EX Mewtwo, Reshiram, Zekrom, and non EX Genesect
FlashFire: EX M Charizard (2), M Kangaskhan, and non EX Pyroar
Furious Fists: EX M Heracross, M Lucario, Hawlucha, and non EX Tyrantrum
Now with Phantom Forces we already have 3 confirmed EX cards represented on the covers, Aegislash, M Gengar, and M Manectric.
Frost said:
Rayquaza first came out in EX deoxys, 7 sets after EX ruby and Sapphire. Well 6 if you count the fact that in Japan the EX deoxys equivalent came out before EX Team Rocket Returns equivalent. Rayquaza the card first came out as a promo in June 2004 in Japan, and Pokemon Emerald came out in September 2004. The first time Rayquaza was released in a set is in the Japanese equivalent of EX Delta Species, which was released after the Japanese equivalent of EX Legend Maker, thus making it 11 sets after EX ruby and Sapphire. In other words, 2+ years.
Giratina first came out with Legends Awakened, 5 sets after Diamond and Pearl. In japan, Giratina the card came out in March 2008. Pokemon Platinum came out in September 2008.
One of 3 things will happen if Zygarde doesn't end up in this set, which most likely won't because Japan doesn't have a Zygarde card yet:
There will be no ORAS sets, and Zygarde will be in the XY5, XY6, or whatever.
There will be ORAS sets, but Zygarde will be in an ORAS set.
Zygarde will be released in the first Z expansion that is released after the last ORAS set.
Rayquaza ex: EX Dragon. Set #3 of RS, six months after the release of RS.
Giratina: Legends Awakened. Set #5 of DP, 1 year 4 months after the release of DP.
Kyurem: Noble Victories. English set #3 of BW (set #2 in Japan), 6 months after the release of BW in the US.
I don't think we're waiting until 2016 to see Zygarde.
Giratina: Legends Awakened. Set #5 of DP, 1 year 4 months after the release of DP.
Kyurem: Noble Victories. English set #3 of BW (set #2 in Japan), 6 months after the release of BW in the US.
I don't think we're waiting until 2016 to see Zygarde.
Let's also remember here that aside from the Crobat line and, Diagla EX, Aegislash EX, and the M. Pokemon (including their previous EX's) that we haven't seen any of the cards for Phantom Force. Zygarde could be a card in this set, then Japan would have one and we would most likely get it too.
It could also be saved for a future set. Again all we can really do is wait, but in the next week or so we should see what's going to be in Phantom Gate, and hence what we will most likely get in Phantom Forces barring any additional Japanese promos that might make it in our English set (looking at you Fighting Pangoro and Fairy Dendenne), lolz.
It could also be saved for a future set. Again all we can really do is wait, but in the next week or so we should see what's going to be in Phantom Gate, and hence what we will most likely get in Phantom Forces barring any additional Japanese promos that might make it in our English set (looking at you Fighting Pangoro and Fairy Dendenne), lolz.
I guess this could mean they saving Diancie and M Diancie for a later set.
Most likely so on some level. We don't even officially have M Diancie yet as that seems to be considered OR/AS stuff. The states don't even have Diancie for the game yet, though I suspect that we'll get it not long after OR/AS.
Frost said:
Forgot about Rayquaza ex.
Releasing Zygarde 2+ years after XY base set may be true, but it also may not be true.
Not releasing Zygarde 2+ years after XY base set may be true, but it also may not be true.
Assuming that the 4 2015 sets are ORAS, and what comes after are the Z sets, and that is a speculative assumption. If we don't get Zygarde in Phantom Forces, and that is a big IF, one of 2 things will happen:
Zygarde will be in an ORAS set.
Zygarde will be in the first set after ORAS finishes.
It could also be possible that Pokemon Z would be released early to mid 2015, thus making only 2 ORAS sets, meaning that Zygarde might be released in mid 2015.
They might not release Zygarde 2+ years after XY base, but at the same time, they are also not not going to do it.
There are so many variables, such as if Zygarde will be in Phantom Forces. If no, will the 2015 sets be ORAS sets. If no, the Zygarde may be in one of these sets. If yes, then will Zygarde be in an ORAS set. If yes, then it will be in one of these sets, and if no, then there would be another variable. Will the ORAS sets continue to the end of the generation or will we see something like the Z sets. If it stays ORAS, the Zygarde will be in an ORAS set. If no, then it would be in a Z set.
Also don't forget black star promos. They may release a Zygarde as a black star promo long before an actual set release comes out.
It could also be possible that because we don't see a Zygarde in Phantom Forces, that we would see an XY5 instead of ORAS1, at least in Japan anyway. The way TPCi branded the sets seems that we would see an ORAS1 even if in Japan, it would be XY5. I don't know, there is just way too many unknowns.