if it's real i'm not saying it is i might get it
(1) GS REMAKE COMING? [5/2]
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...Nintendo's handheld consoles have never been region-locked. (With the exception of the DSiWare, of course. x3)
...Nintendo's handheld consoles have never been region-locked. (With the exception of the DSiWare, of course. x3)
Well, I guess Pokémon finally thought about accually doing what every Pokémon website in the world has indirectly been asking them to do... That's right! GOLD AND SILVER REMAKES! =D I know it hasn't been confermed yet, (as Xander said) but seriously dudes, It would be a huge mistake to not do this revolutionary thing. And besides, G/S remake sales would make serious $.
Corrected for you.Rotom479 said:
All we know is that it's a video game and that it's a "major, world-first announcement.".
Pokémon games have been remade before. So it's not a world-first.
Maybe the Gold and Silver Balls are just to throw us off.
d master342 said:
Wii is not a handheld.
Firemaker said:
It'd be interesting to see a rickroll on Pokémon Sunday.
Boy, it'll be delicious if it's all a set up for a shaggy dog story. It'll be "Not Without My Anus" all over again. Trey Parker and Matt Stone will never live that down for South Park fans, and I'd like to see a sudden mean streak to this show.
yoyofsho16 said:
I have played Pokémon games since the 1st generation, and I would say the 4th generation is the best out of the bunch. There are a few 2nd-generation Pokémon I'm quite partial to in terms of art, and I liked the music here, but I would agree that the Diamond and Pearl versions took everything that Gold, Silver, and Crystal were and improved upon them.
Blue Thunder said:
No, it's you who aren't satisfied with the Sinnoh Pokémon and are pointing to lower sales numbers of Diamond and Pearl compared to Gold and Silver and Red and Blue as "proof." If you do the math, you'll see that, adjusted for the amount of time the games have been out, Diamond and Pearl far far outsold Gold and Silver. It's the same deal if you take a look at sales during the first weekend, the first week, the first month, and the first year.
I gathered some sales numbers and have divided them by the amount of years they've been out, rounded to the nearest whole number:
Pokémon Red and Blue: 20.68 million in 12 years; 1.72 million per year
Pokémon Gold and Silver: 15.2 million in 9 years; 1.68 million per year
Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire: 13.0 million in 6 years; 2.17 million per year
Pokémon Diamond and Pearl: 16.48 million in 2 years; 8.24 million per year
(Find me sources that prove the numbers of sales are significantly different.)
While it might be unfair to compare games of different ages as game sales sputter out over time and inevitably get smaller, we do have these two facts:
1. Despite the longer amount of time Red and Blue have been out, it still has a higher per-year average than Gold and Silver.
2. Diamond and Pearl have outsold Gold and Silver in less than a third of the time.
By all means is the 2nd-generation games NOT the most popular generation.
I love Ophie now.Ophie said:
In a very... non-romantical way. o-O
But still, it's true. D/P were better than G/S in just about every single way. And I'm talking about gameplay and stuff, not nostalgia.
They're not necessarily remaking GS, because they don't 'need' to. Most of the Pokemon from 2nd Gen are available, example:
Starters-Migrate from Emerald (Complete Hoenn Dex) OR from a GBA version that has traded with Pokemon XD for one.
Sentret-Can be found w/ PokeRadar
All the rest can either be found normally in D/P/Pt or by the PokeRadar.
Although I do hope there's a GS Remake. I enjoyed the Slowpoke Tails.
Starters-Migrate from Emerald (Complete Hoenn Dex) OR from a GBA version that has traded with Pokemon XD for one.
Sentret-Can be found w/ PokeRadar
All the rest can either be found normally in D/P/Pt or by the PokeRadar.
Although I do hope there's a GS Remake. I enjoyed the Slowpoke Tails.
While yes most Pokemon can be gotten do you know how much of a pain it is? And lets not mention the worst IV/EVs in the world.
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I think they need to change some stuff:
1)They need to add 3th and 4th generation pokemon to Johto, but only the evolutions and pre-evolutions of johto pokemon, and there has to be a spot for pokemon like magneton and eevee to evolve into magnezone, leafeon and glaceon without trading to d/p/pt. And maybe they shouldn't include all the first and second generation pokemon in the johto pokédex.
2)They need to change the gymleaders pokemon and also the E4. They don't need to change the kanto gymleaders, though
3)They also need to change the pokégear a bit. Give it a few look-a-like pokétch features
4)pokemon that weren't available in d/p/pt without transfering from the third generation
should definitely be added
For example: Ho-Oh and Luigi are the first legendaries you'll catch, depending on what version you have. You should be able to get the bird who isn't the game's mascot later when you go to kanto
They also need to keep the roaming legendary dogs
They could also add Mewto to the cerulean cave, and Celebi should be an event item pokemon that you can download as a mystery gift(wi-fi), and they could do the same with Mew.
When you've seen all the pokemon that are listed in the jotho pokedex, you get to pick one of the hoenn starters and you also get the national pokedex. When you visit Oak in kanto you will have to do something for him(I don't know what you have to do for him, maybe you have to get a bottle of moo moo milk for him or whatever) in return you get to pick a kanto starter.
5)Re-battling the gymleaders with stronger pokemon would also be great. The E4 needs to get stronger pokemon then the gymleaders in kanto. Maybe they could make another battleground like in platinum.
6) And finally: change everything that could be made cooler
1)They need to add 3th and 4th generation pokemon to Johto, but only the evolutions and pre-evolutions of johto pokemon, and there has to be a spot for pokemon like magneton and eevee to evolve into magnezone, leafeon and glaceon without trading to d/p/pt. And maybe they shouldn't include all the first and second generation pokemon in the johto pokédex.
2)They need to change the gymleaders pokemon and also the E4. They don't need to change the kanto gymleaders, though
3)They also need to change the pokégear a bit. Give it a few look-a-like pokétch features
4)pokemon that weren't available in d/p/pt without transfering from the third generation
should definitely be added
For example: Ho-Oh and Luigi are the first legendaries you'll catch, depending on what version you have. You should be able to get the bird who isn't the game's mascot later when you go to kanto
They also need to keep the roaming legendary dogs
They could also add Mewto to the cerulean cave, and Celebi should be an event item pokemon that you can download as a mystery gift(wi-fi), and they could do the same with Mew.
When you've seen all the pokemon that are listed in the jotho pokedex, you get to pick one of the hoenn starters and you also get the national pokedex. When you visit Oak in kanto you will have to do something for him(I don't know what you have to do for him, maybe you have to get a bottle of moo moo milk for him or whatever) in return you get to pick a kanto starter.
5)Re-battling the gymleaders with stronger pokemon would also be great. The E4 needs to get stronger pokemon then the gymleaders in kanto. Maybe they could make another battleground like in platinum.
6) And finally: change everything that could be made cooler
There are two things I'm looking forward to here: (1) The actual game and (2) revamped Sugimori art. I hate mixing the old and new styles in RMTs. ;_;
Celebi would probably come as an event item. That is, the GS Bal. Celebi was originally going to be in the GS ball, but something happened, and it only happened in Japan. I really hope this comes out. If not, I'll have to whip out my Crystal, and buy a GBC to play it. (Sold mine).
While this might be true in terms of gameplay, the Pokémon, characters, story and overworld are in my opinion far superior to those in the more recent games. Most of the Pokémon designs are in my honest opinion ugly and bland, or over-detailed (they just seem like forced ideas as well), most of the gym leaders feel like clowns, the team is just the so-maniest evil team trying to accomplish something ridiculously silly, dressed in the most idiotic outfits none the less (The in-game Team Rocket is still the only even slightly realistic evil organisation, let alone the most competent), and the overworld just doesn't feel interesting. It's like everything was done with a checklist, improving something means nothing when you're not going to revolutionize. There's so many things they could've done with DP but just didn't, and it's a real shame...Ophie said:
I have recently replayed Gold, and have enjoyed myself a lot, playing it non-stop . I still haven't finished my Pt ATM, and am just not interested. While nostalgia may certainly be a factor, I am truly convinced that GS just feels more natural, creative and fun than DP. GSC also had the most awesome balls in history, best sprite designs (making the best of their limitations, and doing a very good job at it), best animations (instead of just random wiggling ._.), and so on.
GS took everything that was RBY and expanded upon it, adding a lot of necessary additions (breeding, hold items, rebattling trainers, 2 new types, and so on). The only addition I truly appreciate in DPPt is the Physical/Special split, and that's only truly important for competitive play anyway.
Some of these advancements are also more of a drag, I used to enjoy just driving around on my bike picking up berries, now there's just so many, and there's so much work involved (plants, water, wait until they grow, ...). The same goes for training Pokémon, EVs, IVs, getting the right nature, collecting shards and whatever for move tutors, boring...
I realise this is all opinion, I'm not claiming it isn't, I'm just using it as an example for the fact that improving gameplay doesn't necessarily mean a better game. I'm not going to hate anyone who doesn't like GSC either :F
Blue Thunder said:
No, it's you who aren't satisfied with the Sinnoh Pokémon and are pointing to lower sales numbers of Diamond and Pearl compared to Gold and Silver and Red and Blue as "proof." If you do the math, you'll see that, adjusted for the amount of time the games have been out, Diamond and Pearl far far outsold Gold and Silver. It's the same deal if you take a look at sales during the first weekend, the first week, the first month, and the first year.
I gathered some sales numbers and have divided them by the amount of years they've been out, rounded to the nearest whole number:
Pokémon Red and Blue: 20.68 million in 12 years; 1.72 million per year
Pokémon Gold and Silver: 15.2 million in 9 years; 1.68 million per year
Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire: 13.0 million in 6 years; 2.17 million per year
Pokémon Diamond and Pearl: 16.48 million in 2 years; 8.24 million per year
(Find me sources that prove the numbers of sales are significantly different.)
While it might be unfair to compare games of different ages as game sales sputter out over time and inevitably get smaller, we do have these two facts:
1. Despite the longer amount of time Red and Blue have been out, it still has a higher per-year average than Gold and Silver.
2. Diamond and Pearl have outsold Gold and Silver in less than a third of the time.
By all means is the 2nd-generation games NOT the most popular generation.
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This is amusing.
On the first paragraph, I actually like a lot of Sinnoh Pokemon and most Pokemon in general are OK by me. However, looking at some comments throughout the time I've been on PokeBeach, I've heard a lot of people say that the first 251 Pokemon have a better design then the latest 242 do.
Funny. I knew Gold and Silver were not the highest selling, so don't even start with this "using sales numbers" tactic, as I never did, nor would have I because I knew Blue and Red had beat it out. (I didn't that DP didn't beat it out, but that doesn't come as a shock anyway.)
Also, you have to look in terms of "fads". The elementary age group is Pokemon's main target (you know that's true) and elememtary kids tend to have tons of fads. It shows that Pokemon was already starting to decline in 2001, just shortly after GS came out. If the kids weren't into Pokemon during the GSC era, they wouldn't buy the games, obviously. In DPPt, Pokemon is starting to become mainstream again. Another reason it is popular is that it made up for the "lackluster" RSE. DP felt like the true sequel to Generation 2.
Ok, I will admit that DP popluar, and that I blundered because I'm annoyed when I see comment like "if GSDS is made, RS remake will have to come." However, I never mentioned anything about sales numbers. On that subject, generation popularity isn't always based on the number of games a generation sold. I'm pretty sure there are at least a few fans who don't always buy the games. Sure, it could be the best way of measuring the popularity (if you must only measure by one area of the franschise) of a generation, but you must also remember the TCG, and some people don't like video games in general. However, they can still be fans of the franchise.
Also, at the time, there were probably less fans at the time, but not all due to the "fads" I was talking about earlier. Another factor that is just that some people dodn't even know about the franchise back in 2001, but do now. It's kind of like a disease (not a positive way of looking at it, I know, but it is a good analogy): The more time you let it spread, the more victims the disease will have. Likewise with Pokemon, the more you have it on the market, the more fans and buyers you'll get.
I also realize some of this is based on opinion (not neccessarily mine, though), but opinions are still important. Somethings can only be determined by opinions, such as, what do you know, franchise popularity and generation (in the case of Pokemon) popularity.
You can all doubt a GS remake by any means. That's your personal opinion. However, I think many of you critics of a GS remake won't be left with much to say on the subject after Sunday.
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