(1) June 23rd Release for 'Black 2' and 'White 2' in Japan [4/8]
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I meant that FR/LG started the trend of remakes, and started the desire for remakes. Pretending they never happened, which subsequently means HG/SS never happened, would many have such an outcry for remakes in general?
And why exactly would we even want Hoenn on the DS? Hoenn is beautiful as is and doesn't need to be downgraded to something lesser. When you compare DS graphics to those of the GBA, the DS I find quite lacking. It's like they try too hard to make something good but they end up over-compensating.
I stand by my view that Sinnoh looks hideous even though it shouldn't.
I stand by my view that Sinnoh looks hideous even though it shouldn't.
Partially agree.
Sinnoh is great as far as structure, gameplay and all goes, but visually it felt like they didnt have enough time to get familiar with a 3d overworld.
Johto had some stunning places, and Unova feels much more believable in comparison, even though its all the same engine.
The main thing they should have changed is the turquoise ground color... Grass is green last time I checked, but then again they've been using that in RSE. Where it felt perfect though.
But yeah. If the ground wasn't so flat, plain and way too bluish shade of green, all of the DS games would have looked much better.
Sinnoh is great as far as structure, gameplay and all goes, but visually it felt like they didnt have enough time to get familiar with a 3d overworld.
Johto had some stunning places, and Unova feels much more believable in comparison, even though its all the same engine.
The main thing they should have changed is the turquoise ground color... Grass is green last time I checked, but then again they've been using that in RSE. Where it felt perfect though.
But yeah. If the ground wasn't so flat, plain and way too bluish shade of green, all of the DS games would have looked much better.
DPPt wasn't even close to using the graphics engine to its potential. Black and White actually utilized the various changes in views.NachoMan said:
Personally, remakes help them make money and help you guys get your old games perked up to new versions. Me? I'd rather them just move on to the next generations and get more Eeveelutions (Gamefreak, please tell me that you will do it >| ).
B/W did toy with the camera angles in a few places, but where they did it, they didn't do much else. You couldn't help but feel like they could have done more with what they did.
DPPt were decidedly subpar in how they chose to utilize the graphics engine - which is a bit of a shame as Platinum could have been a pretty nice game otherwise. HGSS did that one better, with all the little ambient side-effects (moving grass, rippling water, all sorts of fun stuff), and they were in and of themselves works of art. BW was very similar to HGSS graphics-wise, just one step up, and they also added a few other tweaks besides that.
DPPt were decidedly subpar in how they chose to utilize the graphics engine - which is a bit of a shame as Platinum could have been a pretty nice game otherwise. HGSS did that one better, with all the little ambient side-effects (moving grass, rippling water, all sorts of fun stuff), and they were in and of themselves works of art. BW was very similar to HGSS graphics-wise, just one step up, and they also added a few other tweaks besides that.
Zyflair said:
Unfortunately, I'm confident they made all the types that suit the concept.
The idea behind Eevee is that it's a seemingly casual mammal with no noteworthy powers,
but then as its exposed to radiating sources of elemental energy,
it all changes and its suddenly a very specialized creature, embodying very specific abilities.
People thought that eeveelutions are exclusively of "special" types, because all 7 types were special before the split occured with genIV, but actually that has the same reason as the eeveelution types: "special" types were special because most of them have that elemental feeling.
Dragon was simply part of it to balance stuff out and because its freaking badass, but dragon eeveelution is a funny thought.
The only thing thats really left they could do, would be a wind-element eeveelution. But I've never taken that serious, since Wind didn't make it as a type and is more like a secondary effect than a type of its own.
Tornadus increased the little hope that was left quite a bit (and is why I even decided to make a fake eeveelution even though I tend to be like "fake eeveelutions are meh and make me facepalm"), but I seriously doubt they would make a pure Flying one, given how after 650 creatures we still have no hints about what it takes to be a true Flying pokemon.
But think about it,
making all those left types would be really pushing it, feel forced, and out of place.
Its not "evolves into every type", its "normal thing gains full elemental powers when exposed to pure source of them".
Theres the ones that are essentially species types, like Bug, Ghost and Dragon, which are off the bat right away.
As these relate to what kind of animal it actually is.
What I mean is, for it to truly turn into one of these, it would have to become non-mammal, which is the essential part of Eevee. If you added insecty and dragony bits over it, itd just make it Normal/Bug Normal/Dragon at most! Not a true typed poke of either.
But the rest...
would you bring Eevee to the rocky rock with a rock aura to turn it into Rock?
Or a Fighting stone?... a Poisonous energy source?... A place of Ground.. feeling? :S
You know what would make more sense?
If they made a new pokemon which starts of as normal nonspecialized, but
then evolves into any of the species types (wonder what itd start off as).. like as a biologically simple creature, but then it'd evolve into a reptile, bird, aquatic, ghost, mineral based..
Or a humanoid normal pokemon which changes into types as focusing on different battling techniques, ie get stronger and become Fighting, develop mental powers turning Psy, use Poison to weaken the foe instead, or resort to sneaky tactics with Dark..
Either would be much more interesting and original than pushing the eeveelution thing over the limit for the sake of it IMO.
Oh or at least they should improve the eeveelutions instead and make all of them useful.
Sorry for the long elaborative post about that topic XD
I have these passionate moments occasionally when topics are addressed that I spent time thinking about sometime in the past lol :B
Not a problem, Mitja. While you are logical in your argument, you do have to take into consideration that we are talking about Gamefreak, which has done a few things that just plainly don't make any sense. Second is that commerical motives hold more weight than simple logic. If the idea of a Dragon Eeveelution is rather in demand from the fanbase, then just to appease the fans, they'd do it, even if it doesn't fit in line with the rest of the Eevee theory (just as Capcom put in a defense attorney into a fighting game because the fans demanded it. It still makes no sense). But this isn't the place for a discussion like this, so if you do want to continue talking, I suggest you go hit a comment on my profile ot send a pm. ;3
You can't even play Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald anymore. Because of the internal battery going out. The same thing happened with Red, Blue, Yellow, Gold, Silver, and Crystal.
Regardless of what everyone else thinks, The Pokemon Company, Nintnedo, and Game Freak will continue to do what they want. Releasing Ruby and Sapphire remakes would bring back in more older fans of the series that have since stopped playing Pokemon since Emerald. Just like HeartGold and SoulSilver brought back lots of fans.
Regardless of what everyone else thinks, The Pokemon Company, Nintnedo, and Game Freak will continue to do what they want. Releasing Ruby and Sapphire remakes would bring back in more older fans of the series that have since stopped playing Pokemon since Emerald. Just like HeartGold and SoulSilver brought back lots of fans.
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I'm aware that wouldn't be a problem, but in the end it all comes down to the question of "do we really need remakes"? The answer to that is weighted towards "no"; RSE games are already compatible with DS and it's very possible to get Hoenn Pokemon on newer games. It's not like we're being left in the dark here.
Besides, if you remade RSE, there wouldn't be much to remake, most likely. They're already designed in the "newer" generations of the games, and there wouldn't be all that much to add that wasn't there already.
And this has nothing to do with Nintendo trying to make money. Needing a remake and making money off something are two completely separate concepts.
I honestly hope an RSE remake does not ever get made, both for the reasons I just stated and because I feel like Hoenn will be marred forever if they decide to do something like that.
Besides, if you remade RSE, there wouldn't be much to remake, most likely. They're already designed in the "newer" generations of the games, and there wouldn't be all that much to add that wasn't there already.
And this has nothing to do with Nintendo trying to make money. Needing a remake and making money off something are two completely separate concepts.
I honestly hope an RSE remake does not ever get made, both for the reasons I just stated and because I feel like Hoenn will be marred forever if they decide to do something like that.
Remember what Steven said in the Enigma Stone event. "I'm not going to ask for your name. Our fun will have to wait for the right time" That means something. You'll get to battle him in Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire remakes? Maybe he'll also make an appearance in Pokemon Black Version 2 White Version 2.