(1) Mega Tyranitar, Aggron, Gengar, and Kangaskhan in ‘CoroCoro’ [10/10]

I think it sucks. I don't see why it can be useful at all, except for very specific circumstances. What are the odds of a Pokemon weak to your Gengar being the one stuck? What if your Gengar is weak to it, then you'll have to switch, freeing them as well?
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The whole point would be to switch your Gengar into that Pokemon, preventing it from switching out. You can either leave the Gengar in and tear your opponent to bits, or (if he can't) switch out to something that can. Your opponent can't switch out in response, so at the very least, it's a free turn.

Preventing your opponent from switching is an amazing power that is not to be underestimated. There is no luck involved. Do you remember why Wobbuffet was considered an Uber in Gen 4 Singles? Think about it for a bit.
 
Jakeremix said:
This set of mega evolutions really is amazing, but I'm just really disappointed that Mega Gengar isn't Ghost/Psychic after all... How long will it take them to make that combo? Mega Gengar doesn't even look like a poison type anymore...

But man, Mega Tyranitar and Mega Aggron look amazing with their official artwork. And Greninja's official artwork makes me love him even more. Delphox's did nothing to help it, but at least we know it still uses the stick...

The one thing that I find weird is Mega Kangaskhan. Why does it need a mega stone for the baby to come out? I can't help but thinking that while Kangaskhan is "mega evolving" (not really), the kid is undergoing a regular evolution. With Mega Kangaskhan, it looks much older and larger to the point where it probably wouldn't even fit in the pouch anymore. But why would it revert back into looking like a baby, and why does Kangaskhan have to undergo the mega evolution? It makes no sense...
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Think of it like this...the energy of Mega Evolutions is temporary so the Pokemon won't be able to keep this great power but for so long which is why they revert back. Kangaskhan is the "PARENT" Pokemon so she will always have the motherly instinct to protect or help its child, so when she is receiving the new energy she pretty much says "I'm already strong as hell but my baby is still vulnerable so I'll give all the power to my child!" That's why the baby is the only one to change because it's the only one that really needs a boost in power hint the new ability "Parental Bond" which lets the baby help its mother attack.
 
DNA said:
I think it sucks. I don't see why it can be useful at all, except for very specific circumstances. What are the odds of a Pokemon weak to your Gengar being the one stuck? What if your Gengar is weak to it, then you'll have to switch, freeing them as well?
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The whole point would be to switch your Gengar into that Pokemon, preventing it from switching out. You can either leave the Gengar in and tear your opponent to bits, or (if he can't) switch out to something that can. Your opponent can't switch out in response, so at the very least, it's a free turn.

Preventing your opponent from switching is an amazing power that is not to be underestimated. There is no luck involved. Do you remember why Wobbuffet was considered an Uber in Gen 4 Singles? Think about it for a bit.
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The problem is you have to mega evolve first, so they switch bringing in a counter to Gengar, then you mega evolve trapping that counter, not the pokemon you wanted too.
 
DutchNugget said:
DNA said:
The whole point would be to switch your Gengar into that Pokemon, preventing it from switching out. You can either leave the Gengar in and tear your opponent to bits, or (if he can't) switch out to something that can. Your opponent can't switch out in response, so at the very least, it's a free turn.

Preventing your opponent from switching is an amazing power that is not to be underestimated. There is no luck involved. Do you remember why Wobbuffet was considered an Uber in Gen 4 Singles? Think about it for a bit.
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The problem is you have to mega evolve first, so they switch bringing in a counter to Gengar, then you mega evolve trapping that counter, not the pokemon you wanted too.
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I could be mistaken but Mega evolving has priority over all moves and that most likely includes your opponent switching out too as GF had to have noticed that problem.
 
jstar21 said:
Jakeremix said:
This set of mega evolutions really is amazing, but I'm just really disappointed that Mega Gengar isn't Ghost/Psychic after all... How long will it take them to make that combo? Mega Gengar doesn't even look like a poison type anymore...

But man, Mega Tyranitar and Mega Aggron look amazing with their official artwork. And Greninja's official artwork makes me love him even more. Delphox's did nothing to help it, but at least we know it still uses the stick...

The one thing that I find weird is Mega Kangaskhan. Why does it need a mega stone for the baby to come out? I can't help but thinking that while Kangaskhan is "mega evolving" (not really), the kid is undergoing a regular evolution. With Mega Kangaskhan, it looks much older and larger to the point where it probably wouldn't even fit in the pouch anymore. But why would it revert back into looking like a baby, and why does Kangaskhan have to undergo the mega evolution? It makes no sense...
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Think of it like this...the energy of Mega Evolutions is temporary so the Pokemon won't be able to keep this great power but for so long which is why they revert back. Kangaskhan is the "PARENT" Pokemon so she will always have the motherly instinct to protect or help its child, so when she is receiving the new energy she pretty much says "I'm already strong as hell but my baby is still vulnerable so I'll give all the power to my child!" That's why the baby is the only one to change because it's the only one that really needs a boost in power hint the new ability "Parental Bond" which lets the baby help its mother attack.
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That actually makes sense. I think you just managed to clear every single bit of my confusion up! lol
 
@DNA, yeah but since your opponents Pokemon is weak to Gengar and can't switch out (assuming it has no switching move), it'll most likely die the next turn. After which the opponent will switch in a Pokemon resistant or strong vs Gengar, thus forcing you to switch..

I guess the best use for Gengar would be as a backup Mega Evolution, only brought out of the opponent has Pokemon that are weak to Gengar or that Shadow Tag is good against.

Actually, I didn't even stop to consider the implications for Doubles at all... Now that I think about it, that may be where it can truly shine. Locking TWO of your opponents Pokemon, whilst leaving you with a Pokemon that can switch to its hearts content. Not to mention Gengar has pretty good coverage, and even some Stall moves.
 
The problem is you have to mega evolve first, so they switch bringing in a counter to Gengar, then you mega evolve trapping that counter, not the pokemon you wanted too.
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Still a free turn, because you just switch out your Gengar and the counter can't switch out in response. I already covered that bit in my post.

@DNA, yeah but since your opponents Pokemon is weak to Gengar and can't switch out (assuming it has no switching move), it'll most likely die the next turn. After which the opponent will switch in a Pokemon resistant or strong vs Gengar, thus forcing you to switch..
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The Pokemon stays as Mega for the whole match. Even if this does happen, you still have a Shadow Tagger waiting in the wings regardless. I think you're forgetting this.
 
DNA said:
The Pokemon stays as Mega for the whole match. Even if this does happen, you still have a Shadow Tagger waiting in the wings regardless. I think you're forgetting this.
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But to waste your one Mega on a Shadow Tagger? Can't you just use a non-Mega Shadow Tagger?
Granted Gengars stats are really good... But I prefer playing a more annoying MoveSet with him. (SubDisable :p)
 
I'm starting to think we need competitive battle tutoring here.. Shadow Tag is an amazing Ability, borderline broken.

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Gengar looks the best. It finally seems scarier than Haunter.
Aggron makes me glad I choose Y. <3
 
I've liked the new mega evolutions, except Kangaskhan which reveal isn't even new. I like how M.Tyranitar is now resembling Pupitar (namely the expression and horn) a lot more and Gengar resembling Haunter (I've always like Haunter more than Gengar). M.Aggron, what's to say? A Pokémon with an already great design got even better looking.

About the starter's final stage artwork: I still keep my though that a witch with a stick on fire that looks like those seen by angry mobs is not so much of a great ideia and it only make it seems like a hobo. For someone's sake, it's a Psychic Pokémon, why the hell has a stick on fire instead of using it as a wand that would serve to channel its Fire attacks? Chesnaught looks like it's seeing something it's worried about or concerned with. Froakie's final evo...sharing that soft yellow with Chesnaught isn't good and seems like lazy work. I still can't understand why shifting from a bubble scarf to a tongue wrapped around his lower jaw/chin and neck. People complain about Honedge and Doublade but these are great compared to the starters' final evos.

PS: Gengar's third eye looks like the one from Mean Look's animation from Gen. IV!
PS nº2: Chesnaught's shell and tail look like the silhouette of an Arbok.
 
Jakeremix said:
This set of mega evolutions really is amazing, but I'm just really disappointed that Mega Gengar isn't Ghost/Psychic after all... How long will it take them to make that combo? Mega Gengar doesn't even look like a poison type anymore...

But man, Mega Tyranitar and Mega Aggron look amazing with their official artwork. And Greninja's official artwork makes me love him even more. Delphox's did nothing to help it, but at least we know it still uses the stick...

The one thing that I find weird is Mega Kangaskhan. Why does it need a mega stone for the baby to come out? I can't help but thinking that while Kangaskhan is "mega evolving" (not really), the kid is undergoing a regular evolution. With Mega Kangaskhan, it looks much older and larger to the point where it probably wouldn't even fit in the pouch anymore. But why would it revert back into looking like a baby, and why does Kangaskhan have to undergo the mega evolution? It makes no sense...
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Biologically speaking, growth=/=evolution, so a khangaskan baby doesn't become khangaskan by evolving, just by growing. Mega evolution forces evolution, but, as said before, the megastone is used in the baby, so it becomes a sort of evolution of a baby khangaskhan, and leaves the pouch, hence why it has the same power as its parent, since it's physically different but "evolved". Of course, the mega evolution doesn't last much, so it's back to being a baby shortly.
 
Sheriff_K said:
DNA said:
The Pokemon stays as Mega for the whole match. Even if this does happen, you still have a Shadow Tagger waiting in the wings regardless. I think you're forgetting this.
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But to waste your one Mega on a Shadow Tagger? Can't you just use a non-Mega Shadow Tagger?
Granted Gengars stats are really good... But I prefer playing a more annoying MoveSet with him. (SubDisable :p)
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Other pokemon with Shadow Tag Ability:

Wynaut/Wobbuffet
Gothita/Gothorita/Gothitelle (Dreamworld)
Litwick/Lampent/Chandelure (Dreamworld)

As you can see, not a big options to choose.
 
And of those, Gothitelle was event-only (and also male-only), and Chandelure was unreleased.

Tell me, what other Shadow Tagger would you be using?
 
professorlight said:
Jakeremix said:
This set of mega evolutions really is amazing, but I'm just really disappointed that Mega Gengar isn't Ghost/Psychic after all... How long will it take them to make that combo? Mega Gengar doesn't even look like a poison type anymore...

But man, Mega Tyranitar and Mega Aggron look amazing with their official artwork. And Greninja's official artwork makes me love him even more. Delphox's did nothing to help it, but at least we know it still uses the stick...

The one thing that I find weird is Mega Kangaskhan. Why does it need a mega stone for the baby to come out? I can't help but thinking that while Kangaskhan is "mega evolving" (not really), the kid is undergoing a regular evolution. With Mega Kangaskhan, it looks much older and larger to the point where it probably wouldn't even fit in the pouch anymore. But why would it revert back into looking like a baby, and why does Kangaskhan have to undergo the mega evolution? It makes no sense...
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Biologically speaking, growth=/=evolution, so a khangaskan baby doesn't become khangaskan by evolving, just by growing. Mega evolution forces evolution, but, as said before, the megastone is used in the baby, so it becomes a sort of evolution of a baby khangaskhan, and leaves the pouch, hence why it has the same power as its parent, since it's physically different but "evolved". Of course, the mega evolution doesn't last much, so it's back to being a baby shortly.
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I never said the baby was evolving into Kangaskhan though. I just said it looked as though it evolved when Kangaskhan mega evolved because of the difference in the face and size. If it was the opposite, baby Kangaskhan would've been a pokemon a long time ago.
 
Mega Tyrantar looks pretty nice, another reason I'm getting X
Also love Greninja even more now! All three starters look better in this artwork.
 
On Shadow Tag being a good ability: During Gen. 3 and 4 there were only two Pokemon that have Shadow Tag and they were Wynaut and Wobbuffet. Both of these Pokemon were Uber in those Generations and were they were a pain to deal with. M. Gengar with Shadow Tag is just scary and I wouldn't be surprised if it was banned very quickly.

M. Aggron losing it's rock typing is interesting and Filter is a really good ability. I guess they didn't want to give it Solid Rock because it did just lose it's rock typing.:p All the Mega evolutions here look really cool.

The officially artwork of Delphox makes like it a little more, it does really give off that old mage class vibe. I still love Greninja and holy crap, I can't no else has noticed this, but Chesnaught literally stole Wattson's beard. xD I love it!
 
Mega Tyranitar and Mega Aggron look freakin' awesome!
Mega Tyranitar's belly returns to the original color it had as a larvitar... It also looks more like Godzilla, I think.
Mega Aggron losing the Rock-type and gaining Filter as an ability means they realized its base 180 defense was useless when it had 2 double weaknesses to the 2 most common attacking-types... Now, I guess it will actually be able to tank things... It's a weird feeling though, instead of gaining a type, it loses one, which I interpret as whatever parts of its body it had that were made of rock were endured to the point of it becoming completely made of steel (similar to how Onix changes from Rock to Steel when evolving to Steelix)...

Mega Gengar didn't look very good to me when it first leaked, but now, with the Sugimori art, it looks better. Seeing that it has Shadow Tag, it makes more sense to me that its body seems to be rising from the ground, like an actual shadow (think Darkrai in movie 10)...

It's a shame that the Sugimori art effect didn't work on the final starters for me. I still don't like Delphox, I still think Greninja's head triangular shape is stupid and Chesnaught is actually the coolest of the three...
 
I really love all of them. Would be hilarious to see Mega Gengar in Sky Battles since its mega looks like coming from the ground, and in the air there is no ground.

I'm also glad Mega Aggron is in Y, I really love that guy and this mega, good Ability and being pure Steel will make it a force to reckon. I wasn't sure which mega to bring into my party but now I'm convinced. Totally into my team it goes.

By the way, what is this black box on the bottom left of the scan?
 
Okay, now that the final starter evos have been officially revealed, I can finally say what I think about them.

I love all of them. But if I were to rank them, my number 1 favorite is Delphox and tied for 2nd place are Chesnaught and Greninja. But that's not saying much. They're all awesome. I just hope they have better base stats than the Unova starters.
Chesnaught reminds me of Buzz Lightyear for some reason. Maybe the similar body shape and color scheme? Nonetheless, cool and threatening looking.
Delphox is so awesome. Am I the only one still praising Arceus that we finally got a Fire-type starter that is not Fire/Fighting after 3 generations? Anywho, loving the witch/sorcerer motif and love the Fire/Psychic typing as a whole. Still waiting on my Electric/Psychic type though...
Greninja is awesome too. I thought the triangle shaped appendages on its head were somewhat weird when I first saw it, but now it makes sense. They're connected like fins, sort of like on Vaporeon but simpler looking. I am overjoyed that Greninja wound up to be a Water/Dark type, I was thinking it would be a little bit dangerous to have two different Fighting-types on my team in X (Because I'm using the event Torchic for my playthrough :))

The megas are cool too. Mega Aggron looks so incredibly beastly with all that added armor. Seriously, he looks like a massive iron clad grenade or something. I would not mess with him. And kudos on the pure Steel-type transition.
Mega Gengar looks incredible too. And it has Shadow Tag??? Whoa. This thing could be a huge threat.
Mega Kangaskhan's baby looks so cute, like a little rogue warrior in-training.
Mega Tyranitar looks like it has been hanging around Larvesta or Malamar for too long.
 
I feel that GameFreak basically does this when designing Mega's:
"You get spikes! You get spikes! Everyone gets spikes!"
 
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