(1) New Tree-like Pokemon Before Genesect Film [7/13]

[Jakeremix]

If you can't see how a tree should be ground then... I just can't...

Plus, I never said it couldn't be grass as well, but it also doesn't HAVE to be. The Sandile family isn't water and Hydreigon isn't flying (these are the first examples to come to mind for me).

Can you give me a reason as to why it should be ground? You can't say because its roots are in the ground or that they grow from the ground cause this pokemon has its roots pulled up and walks around on them like a spider.

You're basically implying that a pokemon must remain in the ground in order for it to be considered a ground-type. However, that's not how it works.

Trees grow from the ground, plant their roots in the ground, and it supports them throughout their entire life. This explanation IS entirely plausible, and I don't understand how you can say anything but.

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If you can't see how a tree should be ground then... I just can't...

Plus, I never said it couldn't be grass as well, but it also doesn't HAVE to be. The Sandile family isn't water and Hydreigon isn't flying (these are the first examples to come to mind for me).

Ok those examples are not good examples
The sandile are sand crocodiles. they swim through sand. sand=ground

Hydreigon is a hydra that likes to destroy things. hydra=dragon destruction=dark

Oorotto is a tree tree= grass

If something is ground it needs a ground element

Torterra is a grass/ground because it's a landscape. its the whole earth, including the tree= grass and the earth/mountain=ground

Execgutor is a tree and it is grass psychic

Grass is not ground

There is nothing on oorotto that has anything to do with ground

Those are good examples actually. Last time I checked, crocs are meant to be in the water. If you want, I can provide a few more examples such as Elektross.

And don't even begin to compare Execgutor to Oorotto because saying Execgutor isn't partly ground is a horrible argument.

 

[iSharingan]

inb4 Sudowoodo evolution (and no, I don't really think it is). Speculating about type is pointless, imo. Sylveon tore the fan-base apart over its typing so I say let gamefreak reveal it in it's own time (I'm expecting them to pull another Sudowoodo-ish 'mistyping' just to mess with us, but I'm not going to make any formal guesses)

 

[Zaqix]

I'm all for guessing a Pokemon's type for fun beforehand...but arguing about it, especially when most people haven't even seen it yet seems pointless...iSharingan makes a good point about Sylveon and the type argument debacle...Also, I'm pretty sure if Inkay and Malamar were released without their typing most people would've swore up and down that they'd at least be part water but they're not...To put it shortly, there are numerous examples of Pokemon not being the type they look like in the past so let's all share our ideas without attacking or shooting down other people's? MKAY? MKAY!!!

 

[Jakeremix]

I'm all for guessing a Pokemon's type for fun beforehand...but arguing about it, especially when most people haven't even seen it yet seems pointless...iSharingan makes a good point about Sylveon and the type argument debacle...Also, I'm pretty sure if Inkay and Malamar were released without their typing most people would've swore up and down that they'd at least be part water but they're not...To put it shortly, there are numerous examples of Pokemon not being the type they look like in the past so let's all share our ideas without attacking or shooting down other people's? MKAY? MKAY!!!

It's not about guessing its type... If you read from the beginning you would've known that.

 

[leecario]

Can you give me a reason as to why it should be ground? You can't say because its roots are in the ground or that they grow from the ground cause this pokemon has its roots pulled up and walks around on them like a spider.

You're basically implying that a pokemon must remain in the ground in order for it to be considered a ground-type. However, that's not how it works.

Trees grow from the ground, plant their roots in the ground, and it supports them throughout their entire life. This explanation IS entirely plausible, and I don't understand how you can say anything but.

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Ok those examples are not good examples
The sandile are sand crocodiles. they swim through sand. sand=ground

Hydreigon is a hydra that likes to destroy things. hydra=dragon destruction=dark

Oorotto is a tree tree= grass

If something is ground it needs a ground element

Torterra is a grass/ground because it's a landscape. its the whole earth, including the tree= grass and the earth/mountain=ground

Execgutor is a tree and it is grass psychic

Grass is not ground

There is nothing on oorotto that has anything to do with ground

Those are good examples actually. Last time I checked, crocs are meant to be in the water. If you want, I can provide a few more examples such as Elektross.

And don't even begin to compare Execgutor to Oorotto because saying Execgutor isn't partly ground is a horrible argument.

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You can't apply that logic to pokemon, it doesn't work. And crocodiles often come on to land to bask.
What? It isn't ground at all...
The argument that it has roots and therefore therefore is ground is ridiculous. Explain why bellsprout isn't ground

 

[Lex]

You can't apply that logic to pokemon, it doesn't work. And crocodiles often come on to land to bask.
What? It isn't ground at all...
The argument that it has roots and therefore therefore is ground is ridiculous. Explain why bellsprout isn't ground

Saying crocodiles often come on to land to bask so it makes sense that they're ground type is like saying trees have roots in the ground so it makes sense that they could be ground type.

"What? It isn't ground at all..." This is kind of vague but I think you misinterpreted they're last statement. They were saying that you can't make the argument that Exeggutor is not part Ground so no other trees could ever be part Ground. Which is true.

Lastly, two Pokemon can have similar features and not be the same types. You really can't compare.

 

[jstar21]

Can you give me a reason as to why it should be ground? You can't say because its roots are in the ground or that they grow from the ground cause this pokemon has its roots pulled up and walks around on them like a spider.

You're basically implying that a pokemon must remain in the ground in order for it to be considered a ground-type. However, that's not how it works.

Trees grow from the ground, plant their roots in the ground, and it supports them throughout their entire life. This explanation IS entirely plausible, and I don't understand how you can say anything but.

I wasn't gonna be a part of this debate but your "logic" is very flawed and here is why. Though you are correct that trees take root in the ground and get nutrients to grow you can't use that to say it's a possible ground type because ALL plants take root in the ground or some other surface to obtain sufficient nutrients. So with the "logic" you presented...all Grass types should be part Ground...but we only have one Grass/Ground type...Torterra, and it doesn't even have roots!!!

I'm not saying Ground isn't possible, but it is very unlikely. Large tree-like pokemon with a menacing look...Grass/Ghost, Grass/Dark or sadly just Grass (which would be upsetting).

 

[leecario]

You can't apply that logic to pokemon, it doesn't work. And crocodiles often come on to land to bask.
What? It isn't ground at all...
The argument that it has roots and therefore therefore is ground is ridiculous. Explain why bellsprout isn't ground

Saying crocodiles often come on to land to bask so it makes sense that they're ground type is like saying trees have roots in the ground so it makes sense that they could be ground type.

"What? It isn't ground at all..." This is kind of vague but I think you misinterpreted they're last statement. They were saying that you can't make the argument that Exeggutor is not part Ground so no other trees could ever be part Ground. Which is true.

Lastly, two Pokemon can have similar features and not be the same types. You really can't compare.

I misunderstood the exeggutor thing, and i was trying to say that roots=/= ground type

 

[Lex]

Saying crocodiles often come on to land to bask so it makes sense that they're ground type is like saying trees have roots in the ground so it makes sense that they could be ground type.

"What? It isn't ground at all..." This is kind of vague but I think you misinterpreted they're last statement. They were saying that you can't make the argument that Exeggutor is not part Ground so no other trees could ever be part Ground. Which is true.

Lastly, two Pokemon can have similar features and not be the same types. You really can't compare.

I misunderstood the exeggutor thing, and i was trying to say that roots=/= ground type

I've been following the conversation and neither side has convinced me it could be Ground or why it can't be Ground. Mostly because this gen has been full of typing surprises, so it seems impossible to take an adamant stand against most theories.

Jakeremix may be spot on. This tree could end up Ground type because it could stab its roots into the ground and use Earth Power, Fissure, etc. or if the source is right, dual typed Grass/Ground moves - with which using roots to execute makes a whole lot of sense.

Just in case this comes up, yes, I know that a Pokemon can learn Ground type moves without being Ground type. I'm just saying there's no need to rule it out.

 

[xayshade]

I was saying if the fact that it is a tree is reason enough it should be ground type than all other tree pokemon should be ground type too, when neither is the case

and crocodiles are aquatic, but the sandile line takes the concept of taking an aquatic animal and putting it in loose sand. like garchomp line. They are sharks, why aren't they water?

see what I am saying?

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Can you give me a reason as to why it should be ground? You can't say because its roots are in the ground or that they grow from the ground cause this pokemon has its roots pulled up and walks around on them like a spider.

You're basically implying that a pokemon must remain in the ground in order for it to be considered a ground-type. However, that's not how it works.

Trees grow from the ground, plant their roots in the ground, and it supports them throughout their entire life. This explanation IS entirely plausible, and I don't understand how you can say anything but.

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Ok those examples are not good examples
The sandile are sand crocodiles. they swim through sand. sand=ground

Hydreigon is a hydra that likes to destroy things. hydra=dragon destruction=dark

Oorotto is a tree tree= grass

If something is ground it needs a ground element

Torterra is a grass/ground because it's a landscape. its the whole earth, including the tree= grass and the earth/mountain=ground

Execgutor is a tree and it is grass psychic

Grass is not ground

There is nothing on oorotto that has anything to do with ground

Those are good examples actually. Last time I checked, crocs are meant to be in the water. If you want, I can provide a few more examples such as Elektross.

And don't even begin to compare Execgutor to Oorotto because saying Execgutor isn't partly ground is a horrible argument.

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what you are explaining is why Grass has an ADVANTAGE to ground type, not why it should be.

no ground type has anything to do with trees. not one single one. Grass/ground torterra has a landscape on it, meaning tree plus earth

if it has nothing to do with sand, mud, volcanoes, etc it is most likely not ground

and most plants have roots. because they are usually in the ground is not a good argument

 

[Chrono]

inb4 it's mono-Grass

 

[Zaqix]

I'm all for guessing a Pokemon's type for fun beforehand...but arguing about it, especially when most people haven't even seen it yet seems pointless...iSharingan makes a good point about Sylveon and the type argument debacle...Also, I'm pretty sure if Inkay and Malamar were released without their typing most people would've swore up and down that they'd at least be part water but they're not...To put it shortly, there are numerous examples of Pokemon not being the type they look like in the past so let's all share our ideas without attacking or shooting down other people's? MKAY? MKAY!!!

It's not about guessing its type... If you read from the beginning you would've known that.

I've read this from the very beginning, didn't this all start when you made the suggestion that it might be Grass/Ground and most other people think that it was not possible at all?? Am I missing something here? Lol

 

[slashman41]

Has anyone suggested Grass/Fairy? Just based on the pictures, the thing seems to look like an ent, which you could probably classify as a fairy.

 

[Their Goominess]

Has anyone suggested Grass/Fairy? Just based on the pictures, the thing seems to look like an ent, which you could probably classify as a fairy.

That's actually quite plausible, now I think of it.

However, in a lot of the descriptions it mentions that its creepy or something along those lines, which I'd imagine is more of a pointer towards Grass/Ghost.

However, if it turned out to be a nasty Grass/Fairy type, it would show that the Fairy type isn't all cutesy and pink, and there can be some scarier stuff in there.

 

[Zaqix]

However, if it turned out to be a nasty Grass/Fairy type, it would show that the Fairy type isn't all cutesy and pink, and there can be some scarier stuff in there.

That's why I was glad that Xerneas turned out to be Fairy type...Even if it is a legendary, it shows that Fairy doesn't automatically equal cute and pink (though they've yet to show a regular Pokemon who defies this)

 

[Ohman177]

I <3 everyone who agrees that ground is ridiculous just cause it has roots/is a tree. Makes me feel less crazy. Anyway, I like the fairy idea. Ent's are pretty fairy-ish. Imagine all the people who wanted Xerneas to be grass/fairy finding out they get a grass/fairy tree instead. It's a pretty good consolation prize if you ask me.

 

[xayshade]

I was thinking that too

if not grass/ghost or grass/dark it should be grass/fairy definitely
makes a lot more sense

 

[Jakeremix]

I <3 everyone who agrees that ground is ridiculous just cause it has roots/is a tree. Makes me feel less crazy. Anyway, I like the fairy idea. Ent's are pretty fairy-ish. Imagine all the people who wanted Xerneas to be grass/fairy finding out they get a grass/fairy tree instead. It's a pretty good consolation prize if you ask me.

I'd love to see it being Ground/Ghost or Ground/Dark just to prove you wrong.

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In response to how all grass types should be ground as well... uh, no. A tree is different than regular plants or flowers.

If you've ever played DragonVale, you probably know that the Tree Dragon is partly Earth. Therefore, I'm not the only one that thinks a tree can be under that category. I'm getting real tired of people who don't think there's enough to support its ground typing, because there's plenty.

 

[DNA]

It's funny when wrong people insist they're right.

I'm not sure what Oorotto will turn out to be, and although I'd prefer Grass/Ghost over anything else, Grass/Fairy would also be a nice choice, just to show that Fairy-type isn't just a bunch of cutesy things, as was said before.

 

[jstar21]

In response to how all grass types should be ground as well... uh, no. A tree is different than regular plants or flowers.

Exactly how are trees different from other plants??? Maybe you should do some research into the Plant Kingdom and look up how scientists have divided plants into 5 different Phyla groups (the first division after grouping them all under Plant): Mosses, Ferns, Conifers, Flowering Decot and Flowering Monocot! (I didn't want to confuse anyone with the scientific names.) But back to the point, TREES fall under 3 of these groups (Ferns, Conifers and Flowering Decot!) so please don't try to make up things like saying trees are different from other plants and flowers when scientists say they aren't!

And no I'm not trying to be messed up to you or rude but I really don't like when people try to claim their own fake science as fact.