(1) Possible 'Black' and 'White' Spoilers - Unconfirmed [6/11]

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AkaiMidoriAoi said:
Not anymore, I would say.
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*points to the Pokémon Sunday show*
Still is, I would say.

Water Pokémon Master said:
^ Umm no. If people are lying and making up things to trick other people, they should be persecuted so people in the future will know not to do it or face the consequences. I doubt he's legitimately lying, but yeah.
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Persecuted is a pretty heavy word to use...but then again, I've been reading "Wuthering Heights" today and that's full of unnecessary lexis. But I do agree that people who try and pass off deliberately fraudulent information as factual should have an example made of them. He could have just posted that stuff in an idea thread, and if his ideas were good, he'd still get praise for them.
 
AkaiMidoriAoi said:
It would be fun if Martijn would come out of nowhere with tons of official things when everyone doubts him the most. Though that won't happen ;')
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Water Pokémon Master said:
^ Umm no. If people are lying and making up things to trick other people, they should be persecuted so people in the future will know not to do it or face the consequences. I doubt he's legitimately lying, but yeah.
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Very true I was Really looking forward to the 150 plus new pokemon and the whole morality aspect of the games.
 
he's probably not going to put any pictures up because 1) they'll cost $5000 2) GameFreak will order search warrants on his house OR 3) he'll disguise it as fan-art just to make it look like its old.....

(i hope someone gets my sense of humour here :) )
 
I hope the information was true. Especially the idea of a battle between good and evil.Good and bad choices. The green cobra was not bad but rayquaza is one!!!!!
 
Pokémon Sunday is for the kids who doesn't know how to use the internet. Its content is barely about the games. Just entertainment for kids.

That show doesn't define the fandom of Pokémon.
 
Blob55 said:
I've said it before, but Minotauros has 6 Characters, and the Character limit for Pokémon is 5. ミノタウロス.
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Yes but the Tauros' Japanese name is spelt 「ケンタロス」not「ケンタウロス」 so if Minotauros did exist it wouldn't be odd for it to end up as simply「ミノタロス』.
 
First of, Mucrush, I need to say, kuddo's to your work.
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I completely understand the feelings of dissappointment and maybe anger you have, and be as angry as you want, as long as my protect still works :p

I must say thank you for to WPM and the others who 'recognize' the work I've done before. I'm not new to breaking world exclusive news and it would be completely crazy if I would risk my reputation with purposely pulling something like this.

Coming from running a large game community (1.5 million visitors a day) myself, I knew how detailed information such as this would be much more appreciated in a game community, which is why I decided to contact Pokebeach. While I simply have not got the time anymore to run a community myself, contributing like this is something I still very much enjoy, which is also why I've worked with fan-site nightsintodreams.com, three years ago, on the new NiGHTS-game for the Wii.

In the more then 5 years I've work as a video game specialist now, this is the first time I have been involved in a slip-up like this; in that regards I am just as shocked as you are, maybe even more.

Zelda screenshot hoax
I knew it was going to come up, so it's only fair to comment on this. The situation with the Zelda community at that point was completely different from what's happened here. You are all still very excited, and there's tons of news coming in every week or so. Back then, it had been months since there had been any news on the game, and the general concensus was literally that all interest had been lost in the game. That is why we created one single screenshot -no news or anything with it- and created a lot of mystery around it, just to spark that fire in the fans again.

And it was super effective! (sorry, couldn't resist); after the 'angry mob'-feelings had subsided, their passion for Zelda had returned.

The differences with this situation are massive. First of, I'm not part of the Pokémon community, so there'd be no reason for me to suddenly get involved with something like this. Second, you are all very much looking forward to the game, and very passionate about it. And third, there is no 'drought' on community news or activity going on, so there would be no need for a repeat.

So... what's up with this news then?
Well, obviously the Zelda screenshot was a fake then. I am trying to figure out what is up with all this then, because this has come to just as big a shock to you as to me. I know this source, and he has been true on former ocassions, so I do not expect bad-willing intent.

Next, and probably most important question is then, what is true of the news? I will have to do some calling around to get the picture right, but I know from Nintendo themselves (not 'a source', but the actual company) that there will be "new battle mechanics", and that "the theme of black and white is more than just color-related".

I will get back about my findings as soon as I know more.

I do not expect you to believe me, or even like me (just please don't wish me dead), I am just opening up about the situation and will do what I can to make up for this, and get things cleared up.
 
So basically he's saying, people, that he's a reliable person, trusts his source, and that he'll do some further research to verify the news he sent us. He's not trying to purposefully trick us. The news could potentially have truth to it.
 
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If there will be Tauros evolution, that should be one :)
 
Martijn, for someone with a "reputation of your own",


You shouldn't post stuff that's not 100% true.

I don't care if the President of Nintendo was fooled into something, it's their own duty to verify information before claiming it as real.
 
I'm still notsure on the zelda hoax pic.. i mean still drought or no drought it was still fake to get others excited about it,, which i think is wrong.. let the real stuff make them excited.. but fine Martijn,.. I'll take your word for it this time and blame it on a slipup of your source... plus i'll forgive you because i LOVE pokemon rumors :)
 
Redneck said:
Martijn, for someone with a "reputation of your own",


You shouldn't post stuff that's not 100% true.

I don't care if the President of Nintendo was fooled into something, it's their own duty to verify information before claiming it as real.
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Get off your high horse. Absolute standards like that do not translate into the real world. Plenty of reliable news sources have posted things they didn't know to be 100% true, which is why they are often labeled, as in this case, "unconfirmed" or "rumor."
 
@Redneck, i disagree entirely. i would prefer it if he spouted all the information he knows and showed all the pictures he can get a hold of. Because a flood of information like that would most likely have to be true. I would rather sit here looking at a few new pokemon that may or may not be real than sit here doing nothing waiting for his "verification". im sure im not the only one....
 
Wow, people are really gullible here. Venator from Bulbapedia and Mackinz from dA here. His source was proven wrong when he used PD's Fakemon as the artwork of his news. If it were legit, why would they use fan-art? Not saying that PD isn't an awesome artist but his style isn't exactly Sugimori-ish.
 
Martijngamer said:
First of, Mucrush, I need to say, kuddo's to your work.
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I completely understand the feelings of dissappointment and maybe anger you have, and be as angry as you want, as long as my protect still works :p

I must say thank you for to WPM and the others who 'recognize' the work I've done before. I'm not new to breaking world exclusive news and it would be completely crazy if I would risk my reputation with purposely pulling something like this.

Coming from running a large game community (1.5 million visitors a day) myself, I knew how detailed information such as this would be much more appreciated in a game community, which is why I decided to contact Pokebeach. While I simply have not got the time anymore to run a community myself, contributing like this is something I still very much enjoy, which is also why I've worked with fan-site nightsintodreams.com, three years ago, on the new NiGHTS-game for the Wii.

In the more then 5 years I've work as a video game specialist now, this is the first time I have been involved in a slip-up like this; in that regards I am just as shocked as you are, maybe even more.

Zelda screenshot hoax
I knew it was going to come up, so it's only fair to comment on this. The situation with the Zelda community at that point was completely different from what's happened here. You are all still very excited, and there's tons of news coming in every week or so. Back then, it had been months since there had been any news on the game, and the general concensus was literally that all interest had been lost in the game. That is why we created one single screenshot -no news or anything with it- and created a lot of mystery around it, just to spark that fire in the fans again.

And it was super effective! (sorry, couldn't resist); after the 'angry mob'-feelings had subsided, their passion for Zelda had returned.

The differences with this situation are massive. First of, I'm not part of the Pokémon community, so there'd be no reason for me to suddenly get involved with something like this. Second, you are all very much looking forward to the game, and very passionate about it. And third, there is no 'drought' on community news or activity going on, so there would be no need for a repeat.

So... what's up with this news then?
Well, obviously the Zelda screenshot was a fake then. I am trying to figure out what is up with all this then, because this has come to just as big a shock to you as to me. I know this source, and he has been true on former ocassions, so I do not expect bad-willing intent.

Next, and probably most important question is then, what is true of the news? I will have to do some calling around to get the picture right, but I know from Nintendo themselves (not 'a source', but the actual company) that there will be "new battle mechanics", and that "the theme of black and white is more than just color-related".

I will get back about my findings as soon as I know more.

I do not expect you to believe me, or even like me (just please don't wish me dead), I am just opening up about the situation and will do what I can to make up for this, and get things cleared up.
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at least you came out about this. i hope to hear more, and hope you can get on top of this
 
Sparking the fire in peoples hearts after they were loosing sight of their excitement, I don't think your actions back then was wrong, In fact I applaud you. Bringing people together almost never a bad thing.

I hope that the stuff you have been told solidifies more as time goes on, and that you clear your name here on this forum.
 
I believe a real deal sealer for this being fake is the fact that this is the only site to be given this information (GameFAQ have cover but there referencing here)
 
Aha! I knew I recognized you name, Martijn! I was active on the NiD forums a year or so ago as iNSOMNiAC. Hah!

Anyways, back to the topic at hand.
Mix-ups happen. *shrug*

Personally, I think I'll just wait until we get more official info, but I'll still keep an eye on this. :>
[I do suggest giving your informant a bit of a scolding, though. ;P]
 
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