(1) Supposed 'X' and 'Y' Insider Information [5/11]

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TheKeaton said:
Pokèbass said:
On a site based on nintendo news, they reported that during a segment in the episode (Pokemon Smash), it was implied that Sylveon is strong against Ice-type Pokemon, and weak against Poison and Fighting types.
If the guy said that probably the Fairy-type will be weak to Poison and Steel, super effective against Fighting, something don't match..
This means that :
1. There will be another addiction to types other than fairy and Sylveon will be of this - unknown - type. So Gen. VI will introduce two new types, maybe to balance the Fairy one.
2. The rumors are fake or Pokemon Smash is a troll.

No, Pokemon Smash was saying that Sylveon ISN'T fighting or poison type. It was not saying that sylveon is weak against poison and fighting

No, pokesma tested for FIGHTING type first, but nymphia couldn't do what fighting types do, then they tested with ice, and Nymphia WAS SUPER EFFECTIVE AGAINST ICE, so they thought it could be STEEL type pokemon, and to test that they used POISON to see if it was affected, and it WAS SUPER EFECTIVE against Nymphia, you could read the text below saying "super effective."

What pokesma confirmed is that either Nymphia is a dual type or a new type that doesn't match with what is on the front page.
 
Will you post it in the forums or in the front page?

I could see Fairy translate to Light but I would prefer Fairy because Light can't include all the folklore Fairies and would be just the Stereotypical Western fairies. Fairy would include any type of fairies while Light can't so it wouldn't be as good.

The Pokemon that should become Fairy (if it is true) should be Clefairy and Togekiss lines (and Sylveon), maybe others but I wouldn't be mad if they are left out (they fit exactly as it should and would get a nice buff).

To the above post, Sylveon is Rock-type with a new move on the type chart.
 
banditkeith said:
This isn't as relevant but I really want to see how they incorporate Fairy-type changes (assuming it's real) into the anime.

"Oh hey, you know Clefairy? Yeah, it randomly changed type overnight. All the research and data we had on it before is now wrong."

They probably do not even recognise a Clefairy, and have to use their Pokedex to tell them what Pokémon it is, like they always do. Even though Ash is 10 years old, he seems to suffer from extreme dementia. I think they probably just act as if nothing has happened.

Fennex said:
However I hope that there is a good in-game explanation why some old Pokemon are now Fairy type and not something along the lines of "Professor Oak couldn't even tell if you are a boy or a girl, so how should he be able to tell if Clefairy is Normal or Fairy type."

But seriously, they better come up with a plausible explanation for type changes.

Prof. Oak: ''Are you a boy, a girl, or a fairy?''

I am fairly certain that they would not change too many Pokémon; Clefairy, Togepi, and Mawile for sure. Roselia is a poisonous plant, Grass/Fairy would ruin that. Volbeat and Illumise probably stay pure Bug as well, not really fairy-like. Milotic, even though I think it would be rather odd, might be a good candidate; If they decide to include mermaids and such as well within the Fairy-type, it might become Water/Fairy, a dual type just like Gyarados.

Now I think of mermaids, it would be cool to have a proper mermaid Pokémon, as long as it does not look like this:

jynxkarp.png
 
Flygon2071 said:
I could see Fairy translate to Light but I would prefer Fairy because Light can't include all the folklore Fairies and would be just the Stereotypical Western fairies. Fairy would include any type of fairies while Light can't so it wouldn't be as good.

This pretty much sums up what I think about Fairy type translating to Light.

also
For the previous Pokemon whose types are changed, I can see them pulling something along the lines of:
'Since we recently discovered the Fairy type, it's clear that Clefairy was this type all, along, but we just didn't notice.
 
Fairy can be translated to Celestial-type or Divine-type (the 2nd has more power to the name, so strong against dragons...)
 
I'd never thought of Milotic as a possible Fairy candidate, and I kind of like the idea, but I don't think it'll end up getting changed. It's possible, but it just doesn't feel right to me.

As for translation, I think it'll probably be "Fairy" for English, with a small chance of something very similar like "Faery" or "Fae". There just aren't a lot of synonyms for "fairy" that come even close. The only other name I think might work is "Magic", but even that doesn't feel quite right.
 
I'm hoping that the Fairy type would be translated as Faerie, because I'm hoping thats what the type would be about, yet younger people would still get that it does include Tinkerbell-esque faries as well.
 
ikkate said:
TheKeaton said:
Pokèbass said:
On a site based on nintendo news, they reported that during a segment in the episode (Pokemon Smash), it was implied that Sylveon is strong against Ice-type Pokemon, and weak against Poison and Fighting types.
If the guy said that probably the Fairy-type will be weak to Poison and Steel, super effective against Fighting, something don't match..
This means that :
1. There will be another addiction to types other than fairy and Sylveon will be of this - unknown - type. So Gen. VI will introduce two new types, maybe to balance the Fairy one.
2. The rumors are fake or Pokemon Smash is a troll.


No, Pokemon Smash was saying that Sylveon ISN'T fighting or poison type. It was not saying that sylveon is weak against poison and fighting

No, pokesma tested for FIGHTING type first, but nymphia couldn't do what fighting types do, then they tested with ice, and Nymphia WAS SUPER EFFECTIVE AGAINST ICE, so they thought it could be STEEL type pokemon, and to test that they used POISON to see if it was affected, and it WAS SUPER EFECTIVE against Nymphia, you could read the text below saying "super effective."

What pokesma confirmed is that either Nymphia is a dual type or a new type that doesn't match with what is on the front page.

This.
 
Pokèbass said:
ikkate said:
No, pokesma tested for FIGHTING type first, but nymphia couldn't do what fighting types do, then they tested with ice, and Nymphia WAS SUPER EFFECTIVE AGAINST ICE, so they thought it could be STEEL type pokemon, and to test that they used POISON to see if it was affected, and it WAS SUPER EFECTIVE against Nymphia, you could read the text below saying "super effective."

What pokesma confirmed is that either Nymphia is a dual type or a new type that doesn't match with what is on the front page.

This.

TBH the only thing we know from that Smash scene is that Sylveon is able to learn a move that is strong against Ice, it was never said that it was a move of the same type as Sylveon itself. Closest would be Karate Chop, but I rather think it was Rock Smash, which can be learned by all Eeveelutions bar Espeon/Umbreon. Thus being SE against Ice doesn't mean anything with regard to its type.
 
ikkate said:
TheKeaton said:
No, Pokemon Smash was saying that Sylveon ISN'T fighting or poison type. It was not saying that sylveon is weak against poison and fighting

No, pokesma tested for FIGHTING type first, but nymphia couldn't do what fighting types do, then they tested with ice, and Nymphia WAS SUPER EFFECTIVE AGAINST ICE, so they thought it could be STEEL type pokemon, and to test that they used POISON to see if it was affected, and it WAS SUPER EFECTIVE against Nymphia, you could read the text below saying "super effective."

What pokesma confirmed is that either Nymphia is a dual type or a new type that doesn't match with what is on the front page.

I went back and actually watched it, paying attention to what they were saying, and wow is there some misinformation going around. The only things they said unequivocally were that it wasn't Fighting- or Steel-type. They did say that it was "strong" with that ice, but nobody actually said the Japanese equivalent of "super effective". Neither did anyone say "super effective" or even "strong" or "weak" in relation to the steel drum or the "poison". And above all else, this is a TV show whose main point is to entertain young children. It wouldn't surprise me if the ice was just for the cool factor of it.
 
Yoyoman said:
m7mad133 said:
I hope its real because I like what I'm reading :p
It seems legit until it gets to the professors name so far all the professors were named after tress unless Patrice is her first name.

*his

Patrice is a masculine name in France.
 
Yoyoman said:
And if mawhile is also part fairy type it will have no weakness which makes sense since its counterpart sableye does not have any weaknesses

Sableye will be weak to Fairy.

It will have the same weaknesses as Steel (Fire, Fighting and Ground) because Fairy has no resistances, just an immunity and hits 3 types for super effective damage.
 
If there is a fairy type I really don't want to see Gamefreak slack off with some sterotypical western faries.

I don't really suport the fairy type, but I'm suprised that Abra hasn't seen a mention. The ability to teleport and bend spoons would seem like a psy/fairy type also based on it's shape.

EDIT: Also there are facts that could prove sylveon is a flying type.

Sylph is an air spirit or air fairy or something like that

Sylveon has 'wings' from it's ears

Sylveon is white, a common color for flying types
 
Yoyoman said:
And if mawhile is also part fairy type it will have no weakness which makes sense since its counterpart sableye does not have any weaknesses

Fairy type takes normal damage from Fighting, Fire, and Ground. Mawile would still be weak to these three types.
 
Yoyoman said:
And if mawhile is also part fairy type it will have no weakness which makes sense since its counterpart sableye does not have any weaknesses

It still has weaknesses lol (Fire, Ground, maybe Fighting unless Fairy-type resists that). If anything Steel/Fairy is completely trolling because it provides the most redundant resists when combined. It's almost as bad as Rotom-S in gen six. Almost...

Fun fact: if Fairy-type proves to be true, Sableye and Spiritomb will now have a weakness. This leaves Eelektross as the only Pokemon without a weakness.
 
Fennex said:
Pokèbass said:

TBH the only thing we know from that Smash scene is that Sylveon is able to learn a move that is strong against Ice, it was never said that it was a move of the same type as Sylveon itself. Closest would be Karate Chop, but I rather think it was Rock Smash, which can be learned by all Eeveelutions bar Espeon/Umbreon. Thus being SE against Ice doesn't mean anything with regard to its type.

Dude! It finally makes perfect sense!
 
P.DelSlayer said:
Flygon2071 said:
I could see Fairy translate to Light but I would prefer Fairy because Light can't include all the folklore Fairies and would be just the Stereotypical Western fairies. Fairy would include any type of fairies while Light can't so it wouldn't be as good.

This pretty much sums up what I think about Fairy type translating to Light.

also
For the previous Pokemon whose types are changed, I can see them pulling something along the lines of:
'Since we recently discovered the Fairy type, it's clear that Clefairy was this type all, along, but we just didn't notice.

This.....this is the most sensible thing I heard all today and yesterday.
I actually don't mind the fairy type at alI in my opinion it was long overdue. I really liked the previous pokemon are going to reclassify due to a recent discover. Brilliant :)
 
Amongst all of the Fairy type hullabaloo, one person commented on the fact that the aerial battles would essentially look like the Pokemon Ranger: Guardian Signs aerials battles (on top of Latias and Staraptor)

This would be supported by the Gogoat (sp?) riding, since it would be similar. Would you only be able to use pokemon that could fly or levitate? You could use any pokemon in the dive battles underwater in gen 3- but it would bother me to see a Snorlax floppin' around in the air... :/ So much speculation!
 
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