(1) The EX’s, Ultra Rares, and Trainers of BW8 ‘Spiral Force’ and ‘Thunder Knuckle’ [12/12]

well you could use zebstrika, but then you have to attack with him, and that wouldn't do much good :|

or you could run 4 plasma badge and some form of trainer retrieval (sableye + Blend?)
 
yeah that actually sounds pretty decent. I'm beginning to think up a skeleton list here...

pokemon: 9

3 Deoxys EX
3 Sableye
2 Latias EX
1 Darkrai EX

T/S/S: 37

4 Corless
4 N
3 Juniper
3 Ghetsis

4 Ultra Ball
4 Catcher
4 Plasma Badge
4 Plus Power
6 recovery/consistency cards
1 Computer Search

energy: 10

4 psychic
4 blend
2 Prism

free spaces: 4

I'm liking this more by the second... (although it does ave hammertime problems...)
 
I say:
-2 Prism
-1 Ultra Ball

+4 Plasma Energy
+1 Consistency Card

Acceleration is needed. This will make the deck speedier than with Ultra Ball. The Consistency cards would be 3 Plasma Ball and 4 Colress Machine.
 
that could actually work considering the fact that latias would be a plasma pokemon... not so sure if I'd go for plasma Ball though since it would only be able to search out deoxys...
 
Any other search options? That is what I find better. Also Deoxys is a backup attacker so that will help. Also 1 or 2 Mewtwo would be good too though the idea of Darkrai for free retreat is useful and creative IMO. *Proxing cards*
 
hmm well pokecomm probably isn't the best idea... maybe emolga? I'm really at a loss as to what better search options we might have...

mewtwo would also be nice if I could hit corless machine every time...
 
Flygon2071 said:
Any other search options? That is what I find better. Also Deoxys is a backup attacker so that will help. Also 1 or 2 Mewtwo would be good too though the idea of Darkrai for free retreat is useful and creative IMO. *Proxing cards*
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I don't think you'd need Mewtwo. Deoxys is probably better at beating other Mewtwo's if you don't run DCE.
 
Yeah no Mewtwo. This deck needs some switch. Deoxys is a catcher-stall target when you want to attack with Latias. Darkrai helps it but only 1 Darkrai doesn't help so much specially because you need the GRPD.
 
Klinklang works is with steel pokemon not plasma pokemon. There is Terrakion to hit for 90.
Klinklang's ability translation:

Prevent all damage done to your Metal Pokemon by attacks from your opponent’s Pokemon-EX.
 
The Pikachu Mafia said:
the thing I love about latias though, is that it isn't weak to psychic, so if we could just find a way to add 20+ damage to her attack (Rocky Helmet or aerodactly perhaps?) then she could 2hko every pokemon in the format! (with the exception of Black Kyurem EX and Aspertia boosted EX's)
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Altaria?
 
Altaria is too fragile. It can work in some decks but it is easy to KO. It at least has a 1 retreat cost though. All the ones that can help in damage (Altaria, Aerodactyl and Deoxys) need something else. In Altaria, it needs to evolve; in Aerodactyl, it is restored; and in Deoxys, you need a Plasma Badge attached to Latias. It works well with Deoxys as it can attack cheaply and helps against Mewtwo but need to get Deoxys out of the active spot as most of the time Latias is a better option (only if it is Mewtwo). I forgot that Giratina can OHKO Latias but you can OHKO it back with Latias. A problem with Latias is that you need to attach the 3 energies when the only acceleration needs Plasma Badge.
 
actually altaria might work since unlike fluffychomp you only need 1 of them in play, meaning you could easily get away with running a 3-3 line... although I still like the darkrai/sableye/plasma badge option... (speaking of which there was 4 free slots in that list so the darkrai count can easily be 2 or 3...)
 
Flygon2071 said:
I forgot that Giratina can OHKO Latias but you can OHKO it back with Latias.
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If I'm not wrong, it doesn't work like that. Latias attack doesn't take weakness into account so it won't do double damage to Giratina...
 
The Pikachu Mafia said:
well you could use zebstrika, but then you have to attack with him, and that wouldn't do much good :|

or you could run 4 plasma badge and some form of trainer retrieval (sableye + Blend?)
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Ain't need sableye. Need Raticate!
Raticate - Colorless - HP70
Stage 1 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Rattata
[C] Junk Transform: Select 1 Team Plasma Pokemon, Team Plasma Trainer, and Team Plasma Energy card from your discard pile, and put them into your hand.
[C][C] Bite: 30 damage.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 0

Oh, by the way list of good" cards
Exeggcute - Grass - HP30
Basic Pokemon
Ability: Sap Sipper
Once during your turn, if this Pokemon is in your discard pile, you can put it into your hand.
[G][C] Seed Bomb: 30 damage.
Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: Water (-20)
Retreat: 1
Chandelure - Fire - HP130
Stage 2 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Lampent
Ability: Flare Navigation
Once during your turn (before your attack), you may search your deck for a Fire Energy and attach it to one of your Pokemon. Place 1 damage counter on that Pokemon. Shuffle your deck afterwards.
[R][R][C] Absorb Life: 70 damage. Heal 30 damage from this Pokemon.
Weakness: Water (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
Glaceon - Water - HP90
Stage 1 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Eevee
Ability: Freeze Zone
All of your Team Plasma Pokemon require two less Energy to retreat.
[W][C][C] Icy Wind: 60 damage. The Defending Pokemon is now Asleep.
Weakness: Metal (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
Mr. Mime - Psychic - HP70
Basic Pokemon
Ability: Bench Barrier
Your Benched Pokemon can’t be damaged by attacks.
[P][C] Confusion: 20 damage. Flip a coin. If heads, the Defending Pokemon is now Confused.
Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
Deoxys-EX - Psychic - HP170
Basic Pokemon (Team Plasma)
Ability: Power Connect
All of your Team Plasma Pokemon (excluding Deoxys-EX) do 10 more damage to the Defending Pokemon.
[P][C] Spiral Force: 30+ damage. If this Pokemon has a Plasma Energy attached to it, this attack does 30 more damage for each Energy attached to the Defending Pokemon.
When Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
Weavile - Darkness - HP90
Stage 1 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Sneasel
[C] Hail: Does 10 damage to each of your opponent's Pokemon. (Don't apply Weakness and Resistance for Benched Pokemon.)
[D][C] Scapegoats: 30x damage. You may discard as many Pokemon from your hand as you like. This attack does 30 times the number of cards discarded this way.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: Psychic (-20)
Retreat: 1
Absol - Darkness - HP100
Basic Pokemon (Team Plasma)
[D][C] Mind Jack: 20+ damage. This attack does 20 more damage for each of your opponent's Benched Pokemon.
[D][C][C] Shadow Fear: 60 damage. Look at your opponent's hand.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: Psychic (-20)
Retreat: 1
Kingdra - Dragon - HP140
Stage 2 - Evolves from Seadra
[C] Twister: 20x damage. Shuffle all [W] and [L] Energy from your discard pile into your deck. This attack does 20 damage times the number of cards shuffled back in this way.
[W] Tri Bullet: This attack does 30 damage to 3 of your opponent’s Pokemon. (Don’t apply Weakness and Resistance for Benched Pokemon.)
Weakness: Dragon (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
Latios-EX - Dragon - HP170
Basic Pokemon
[P][C] Mach Fly: 40 damage. During your opponent’s next turn, the Defending Pokemon can’t retreat.
[W][P][C] Luster Purge: 150 damage. Discard all Energy attached to this Pokemon.
When Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Dragon (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
Raticate - Colorless - HP70
Stage 1 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Rattata
[C] Junk Transform: Select 1 Team Plasma Pokemon, Team Plasma Trainer, and Team Plasma Energy card from your discard pile, and put them into your hand.
[C][C] Bite: 30 damage.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 0
Super Energy Retrieval - Trainer
Item
Discard 2 cards from your hand. Select 4 basic Energy cards from your discard pile, show them to your opponent, and put them into your hand. (You cannot select cards discarded by this card’s effect.)
You can use any number of Item cards during your turn.
Ghetsis - Trainer
Supporter (Team Plasma)
Look at your opponent’s hand. Your opponent shuffles all Item cards back into his or her deck. Draw 1 card for each Item card shuffled in this way.
You may play only 1 Supporter card during your turn (before your attack).
Frozen City - Trainer
Stadium (Team Plasma)
When either player attaches an Energy to their non-Team Plasma Pokemon, place 2 damage counters on that Pokemon.
This card stays in play when you play it. Discard this card if another Stadium card comes into play. If another card with the same name is in play, you can’t play this card.
Ultra Ball - Trainer
Item
Discard 2 cards from your hand. (If you can't discard 2 cards, you can't play this card.) Search your deck for a Pokemon, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Shuffle your deck afterward.
You can use any number of Item cards during your turn.
Reshiram - Fire - HP130
Basic Pokemon
[R][C][C] Miracle Heat: 50 damage. Remove all Special Conditions on this Pokemon.
[R][C][C][C] Cross Flame: 80+ damage. If there is a Zekrom on your Bench, this attack does 40 more damage.
Weakness: Water (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
Electrode - Lightning - HP90
Stage 1 - Evolves from Voltorb
Ability: Charge Draw
Draw cards until you have 4 cards in your hand. You can only use this ability once per turn.
[L][C][C] Electro Ball: 60 damage.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
Thundurus-EX - Lightning - HP170
Basic Pokemon (Team Plasma)
[L] Thunder Knuckle: 30 damage. Attach an Energy card from your discard pile to one of your Benched Team Plasma Pokemon.
[L][L][C][C] Thunder Route: 90 damage. If this Pokemon has a Plasma Energy attached to it, discard an Energy card attached to the Defending Pokemon.
When Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
Metagross - Psychic - HP140
Stage 2 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Metang
Ability: Plasma Search
Once during your turn (before your attack), you may search your deck for a Team Plasma card, show it to your opponent, and put it into your hand. Shuffle your deck afterwards. You can’t use more than one Plasma Search ability each turn.
[P][C][C][C] Psycho Trip: 60 damage. The Defending Pokemon is now Confused.
Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
Umbreon - Darkness - HP100
Stage 1 (Team Plasma) - Evolves from Eevee
Ability: Dark Shade
All of your Team Plasma Pokemon have +20 HP.
[D][C][C] Darkness Fang: 70 damage.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: Psychic (-20)
Retreat: 1
Latias-EX - Dragon - HP160
Basic Pokemon
Ability: Shining Feathers
This Pokemon is unaffected by moves from a Pokemon that has an Ability.
[R][P][C] Penetrate: 70 damage. This attack isn’t affected by Weakness, Resistance, or any effects on the Defending Pokemon.
When Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Dragon (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
evee - Colorless - HP60
Basic Pokemon
[C] Signs of Evolution: Search your deck for up to 3 cards that evolve from Eevee, show them to your opponent, and put them into your hand. Shuffle your deck afterward.
[C][C][C] Bite: 30 damage.
Weakness: Fighting (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
Staraptor - Colorless - HP130
Stage 2 - Evolves from Staravia
[C][C][C] Wing Attack: 60 damage.
[C][C][C][C] Strong Breeze: Shuffle the Defending Pokemon, and all cards attached to it, back into your opponent’s deck.
Weakness: Lightning (x2)
Resistance: Fighting (-20)
Retreat: 1
Tornadus-EX - Colorless - HP180
Basic Pokemon (Team Plasma)
[C] Streamers: Shuffle your hand back into your deck, then draw six cards.
[C][C][C][C] Jet Burst: 60+ damage. This attack does 30 more damage for each Plasma Energy attached to this Pokemon.
When Pokemon-EX has been Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Lightning (x2)
Resistance: Fighting (-20)
Retreat: 2
Team Plasma’s Poke Ball - Trainer
Item (Team Plasma)
Search your deck for a Team Plasma Pokemon card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Shuffle your deck afterwards.
You can use any number of Item cards during your turn.
Float Stone - Trainer
Item
Pokemon Tool: Each Pokemon can have only 1 Pokemon Tool attached to it at any time.
The Pokemon this card is attached to has no retreat cost.
You can use any number of Item cards during your turn.
Shadow Triad - Trainer
Supporter (Team Plasma)
Search your discard pile for a Team Plasma card, reveal it to your opponent, and put it into your hand.
You may play only 1 Supporter card during your turn (before your attack).
Life Essence - Trainer
Item
Pokemon Tool: Each Pokemon can have only 1 Pokemon Tool attached to it at any time.
When the Pokemon this card is attached to is Knocked Out, your opponent takes one less Prize Card.
ACE SPEC: You can’t have more than 1 ACE SPEC card in your deck.
You can use any number of Item cards during your turn.
Plasma Energy - Energy
Special Energy (Team Plasma)
This card provides [C] Energy.
Professor Juniper - Trainer
Supporter
Discard your hand and draw 7 cards.
You may play only 1 Supporter card during your turn (before your attack).
Max Potion - Trainer
Item
Heal all damage from 1 of your Pokemon. Then, discard all Energy attached to that Pokemon.
You may play as many Item cards as you like during your turn (before your attack).
Garbodor - Psychic - HP100
Stage 1 - Evolves from Trubbish
Ability: Garbotoxin
If this Pokemon has a Pokemon Tool card attached to it, each Pokemon in play, in each player's hand, and in each player's discard pile has no Abilities (except for Garbotoxin).
[P][P][C] Sludge Toss: 60 damage.
Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 3
Empoleon - Water - HP140
Stage 2 - Evolves from Prinplup
Ability: Diving Draw
Once during your turn (before your attack), you may discard a card from your hand. If you do, draw 2 cards.
[W] Attack Command: 10x damage. Does 10 damage times the number of Pokemon in play (both yours and your opponent's).
Weakness: Lightning (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
Sigilyph - Psychic - HP90
Basic Pokemon
Ability: Safeguard
Prevent all effects of attacks, including damage, done to this Pokemon by Pokemon-EX.
[P][C][C] Psychic: 50+ damage. Does 10 more damage for each Energy attached to the Defending Pokemon.
Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1
 
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