(2) More B2W2 Info, Crystal Wall/Crystal Edge Translations + Musketeer Promos [6/15]

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Something finally more than a star for completing the PokeDex on your Trainer Card? I'm in.
What can you do in Fes missions when connecting with multiple players? Is there something added?
Looks like I can use the Dream Radar for hidden abilities! Dream World doesn't work for me.
What does it mean by "unavailable berries?" Is that rare berries such as Enigma or Jacop, or new ones? You never know...
 
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WPM !!! I emailed you my 12 McDonalds Promo cards ! I got all 12 in 1 day and before they came out
 
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Seems like Virizion/Terrakion/Cobalion deal 50 more damage to DARK pokemon - that's the best i can create from overlaying the images.
 
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puddizzle said:
Seems like Virizion/Terrakion/Cobalion deal 50 more damage to DARK pokemon - that's the best i can create from overlaying the images.

Terrakion beat Darkrai hands down (BDIF Garchomp/Altaria)
This is nice (the news)

Blui129 is gone
 
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holy crap we can see its stats O:! Gimme a sec.

Also, WPM, Im sure its Secret Sword too...


EDIT: alright,
Its HP is 100% 125 as expected.
Its higher attacks are at least 160... o_o
The defenses are too messed up by IV nature in that pic, because I doubt it has inherently higher physical defense regardless of forme.
Speed either dropped by 5 to 90 or its probably bad luck and it stays 95.
125
160
110
120
90
95

Which would be 700 total? More than Resh/Zekrom for sure.

EDIT2:
Since both Kyurems have the same HP and speed, its clear they use the same nature/IV. And with how unequal the defenses are its defense boosting and sp.def lowering.
Reverting nature gives
195
180/130
110/100
133/183
100/110
105
stats not base stats.
So a better base stat estimate:
125 - 170/120 - 100/90 -120/170 - 90/100 - 95
This should be it.
710? TBS? .-.
 
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Mitja said:
holy crap we can see its stats O:! Gimme a sec.

Where? I'm interested.
 
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This looks much better than before! White Forest is great! And another new town.
img_story01_03.jpg
img_story01_04.jpg

EDIT: pudizzle he meant these probably.
img_poke01_game_10.jpg
img_poke01_game_09.jpg
 
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Mitja said:
So a better base stat estimate:
125 - 170/120 - 100/90 -120/170 - 90/100 - 95
This should be it.
710? TBS? .-.

That'd be pretty awesome - it'd truly help Kyurem fit that "world's strongest Dragon" title it was given, and it'd be the closest anything ever came to Arceus while still being lower.

Anyway, I'm a bit confused with how they handled the Kami Trio's Forme abilities... Why would they go out of their way to give them new abilities if caught on the Radar, but then get rid of the abilities when changed to the Sacred Beast Formes with the mirror? (And then I see if you transfer the Trio from BW1 and use the mirror to change them, they get the new abilities that the Radar ones had to begin with? What the heck?)
 
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Its either this if its offensive IVs are meh
125 - 170/120 - 100/90 -120/170 - 90/100 - 95 - 700
Or this if they're high
125 - 165/115 - 100/90 -115/165 - 90/100 - 95 - 690

The first one is more likely imo.

(Reshiram/Zekrom are Gentle(SD+D-)/Modest(SA+A-) in that pic btw)

EDIT: lmao I did everything right but got the sum wrong.
Now the first one seems even more likely since it has /10 numbers in the offenses AND a nice round 700.
 
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the new muskateer cards look interesting. Keledo-R will probably be printed with the justified ability as well.
I'm not sure who's the best out of those new cards. Barring mandibuzz and honckrow, all existing darks are weak to fighting anyway, so terrakion NVI and Groudon EX remain the best counters for dark types. Verizon could be used, for hitting things that have grass weakness and that extra anti-dark utility. Klingklang BW/registeel EX decks will appreciate cobalion, as it fits with the engine.

terrakion seems to of come of worse this time round

Xous said:
That'd be pretty awesome - it'd truly help Kyurem fit that "world's strongest Dragon" title it was given, and it'd be the
Anyway, I'm a bit confused with how they handled the Kami Trio's Forme abilities... Why would they go out of their way to give them new abilities if caught on the Radar, but then get rid of the abilities when changed to the Sacred Beast Formes with the mirror? (And then I see if you transfer the Trio from BW1 and use the mirror to change them, they get the new abilities that the Radar ones had to begin with? What the heck?)

it was confirmed we would be able to get evolution stones, amongst other things, through the radar, so I expect the mirror will be radar-exclusive. For compatibility, it will most likely work like giratina's griesious orb did for diamond and pearl.
 
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I must have those new trio cards! 0_o
 
RE: (2) More B2W2 Info, Crystal Wall/Crystal Edge Translations + Muskedeer Promos [6/15]

Blui129 said:
Terrakion beat Darkrai hands down (BDIF Garchomp/Altaria)
This is nice (the news)

Blui129 is gone

Yes, because this new Terrakion is totally better than Terrakion NV! Darkrai isn't dead BW-on; Terrakion is beatable.

The new trio cards have great artwork, but don't seem very good. They all have ridiculous costs for a not-so-good amount of damage (save against Darkness types, but even then that doesn't make the new cards worth it.
 
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I think the ace spec thing is cool. If only they did that for legendary pokemon too.
 
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Futachimaru said:
Yes, because this new Terrakion is totally better than Terrakion NV! Darkrai isn't dead BW-on; Terrakion is beatable.

The new trio cards have great artwork, but don't seem very good. They all have ridiculous costs for a not-so-good amount of damage (save against Darkness types, but even then that doesn't make the new cards worth it.

Exactly. Darkrai + stuff is still one of the most played deck in Japan right now.

Those ACE SPEC cards are ridiculous. There's not even a drawback for them. :/ I was kind of hoping for something like an extra prize or something. At least they made them for Dragon cards which are actually somewhat playable.
 
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What do you mean there isn't a drawback? You only can have one. That's a drawback.
 
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Here is a theory! Keldeo's form is based on the notion of him being lent power right? Well in that case he does not age or anything but gets the combined power of his mentors (shown by the three feathers) to upgrade his sword to a more impressive and powerful one! He doesn't need a huge change like in shaymin or giratina or deoxys or kyurem as they all fit their forms in their own way
 
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Well, I hope by "change forms of the Radar Pokemon" means that the new forms have Volt Absorb. Intimidate etc. and not some filler stuff like Defiant. I really hope the new forms have the new abilites and not defiant :(!
 
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^Don't worry, the new formes always have those abilites. They are exclusive to the formes. But since they come from the Dream Radar and Dream Radar pokémon always come with their hidden abilities, when you change them to Incarnation with the mirror, the abilites will change to the hidden ones but only on the Incarnation formes. In the games code, it looks something like this:

Tornadus/Thundurus/Landorus
Normal ability:
Prankster/Prankster/Sand Force (Incarnation)
Regenerator/Volt Absorb/Intimidate (Sacred Beast)
Hidden Ability:
Defiant/Defiant/Sheer Force (Incarnation)
Regenerator/Volt Absorb/Intimidate (Sacred Beast)


@Mitja: holy... they got so strong...

@Xous: I think they did that to avoid problems with BW1. If you use the Reflective Mirror on the Sacred Beast Formes caught in the Dream Radar, they change to Incarnation forme but the item must be held. If you use the Reflective Mirror on the Incarnation ones from BW1, they change to Sacred Beast but the item must be held too. So, if you want the Sacred Beast Formes without having to use an item, you must still catch them in Dream Radar (and also to get the Mirror). I'm sure Reflective Mirror can't be traded to BW1 since it doesn't exist in those games' code. And they must have definitely put some restriction on the Sacred Beasts from the Dream Radar so they can't be traded to BW1 too. This way, you can change formes while still avoiding problems with BW1 since there's no placeholder data in those games.
 
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Metalizard- I think you might be able to trade them as beasts, but they will be changed back to normal form and have the Dream World ability Defiant or Sheer Force.
 
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