(2) New Set of X/Y Rumors, Xerneas/Yveltal Half Decks [9/23]
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Ohman177 said:
False. There are drastic changes in the artwork for all of those forms. Ivysaur's eyes close and its flower blooms completely. Quilava's eyes also glare in its final evolution, and it becomes bipedal. Typhlosion looks completely different, by the way, though there is a strong resemblance. And I'm sorry, but there are drastic changes in art between Serperior and Servine; for one thing, Servine is much, much more closely related to a serpent, having lost its legs. It gains a floral design. The other markings on it vary greatly.
With these two, you've just slapped on a detail or two and called it good.
Ganman3 said:
I'm not saying I believe these pics but that's not a good reason to disclaim those pics!
Ivysaur - Venusaur
Every Generation 2 starter
Marshtomp - Swampert
Pignite - Emboar
It's very possible for the final stage to look very similar to the first starter evolution!
YOU HAVE IT BACKWARDS! See, we can use caps too.Blob55 said:
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I'm so sick of reading you being wrong about this. Stop. You are wrong.
jstar21 said:
Well, I'm not just saying they look very similar, as there's always some resemblance. I'm saying they look nearly identical. There's no facial variance between either of the two rumored final forms and their second evolutions. The body shape is also identical. With every starter, you see some change in the face and also some variation in the physical structure of the Pokemon. Generally, they become visibly larger, more muscular, or bipedal, at least in cases where there's not total variation.
So yeah. That dude is kinda going nuts with the info now. He's throwing it up, taking it down, putting it back up again (with some info changed), and it wouldn't surprise me if he takes it down again soon.
For example, he originally said that a new pokeball that works well on Steel types was called the Ironball, but now he say's it's called the Metaball. He also changed that bit about Tropius' mega having more coconuts with bananas (as it should be), as well as something about Skrelp and Clauncher evolving the same way as Karrablast and Shelmet.
Right now, I'm willing to believe that the information originally sent to Pokebeach is from someone else, and this person is just pretending to be them in the hopes of getting attention. This 'leaker' is just acting silly now.
For example, he originally said that a new pokeball that works well on Steel types was called the Ironball, but now he say's it's called the Metaball. He also changed that bit about Tropius' mega having more coconuts with bananas (as it should be), as well as something about Skrelp and Clauncher evolving the same way as Karrablast and Shelmet.
Right now, I'm willing to believe that the information originally sent to Pokebeach is from someone else, and this person is just pretending to be them in the hopes of getting attention. This 'leaker' is just acting silly now.
I have been a Pokemon fan since I was about 13 years old (99), but have never paid that much attention to leaks and rumors. Were there any leaks like this in previous generations that looked realistic, that turned out to be real (or fake)? Any examples I can see?
jstar21 said:
I've covered Ivysaur. The Gen II starters all change in body structure, and their faces generally look more hardy and meaner. Marshtomp, again, fits the above qualities, in addition to its becoming quadrepedal, and so does Pignite. It's never just a matter of slapping on a detail or two. There are always two very different features, at least, even if the Pokemon strongly resembles its previous form.
bogaboy said:
This happens with every new generation.
A notable example is this fake Shaymin Sky Forme that had most people fooled for a short time.
People don't seem to realize just how good some have gotten at the Sugimori style. Or making boxes, for that matter d: It's not like the official things are made by transcendent perfect beings. They're made by people. Professionals, of course, but still people. So any random schmoe could create their own if they had the time/skills/motivation to do so.
bogaboy said:
Oh honey. All. The. Time.
This is not a new phenomenon. People make entire fake CoroCoro scans just to get attention.
Ganman3 said:
Typhlosion IS NOT bipedal. And a flower blooming is Ivysaur's only real change and that's only one. The rumored images shown have at least one real change as well. Servine was more of a stretch but all they did was take off some limbs and make it longer.
Gallade said:
That's a pretty major "if". Not only do I doubt the artwork, I'd question how anybody would obtain any of this information at this point, since Nintendo's not revealing anything. They have one minor announcement slated for tomorrow.
The whole thing just looks wrong, and I wouldn't put any stock in it. You can do what you want, of course, but if those are the final forms, then I'm Hugh Grant.
There was this one time before the starters in Gen IV, i think, that a dark/psychic/fighting trio was revealed. They were a kangaroo, a gryphon, and something else. They were pretty convincing IIRC. And last gen, the starter evos leaked and no one believed it. They were even confirmed fake for a brief moment.bogaboy said:
bogaboy said:
I seem to remember a CoroCoro page featuring a fake Basculin that got a bit of ground.... OH! and some excellent supposed evolutions for Delibird and Farfetch'd. But there were so many, it's hard to keep track of them all. Some are very well made, and only the terrible Japanese gives them away.
It's alittle different this time, since simultaneous release and all.
Ohman177 said:
Actually, yes. Typhlosion is bipedal. If you can find a legit image where Typhlosion isn't standing on two legs, then I'll give this one to you.
And you're really simplifying this. To take it further, Venusaur has markings on its face that Ivysaur did not. Its eyes are further closed and different. There are huge variations to the flower on its back. Venusaur is a lot more bulky. And again, there are changes to the design and to the face of Servine.
I don't know why you're getting so upset about this. But my problem is simply that the base design hasn't changed any. It's never a matter of slapping on a few details, but neither the bodies of these Pokemon nor the faces look any different, and that's a big indicator for me. Final evolutions generally look meaner, stronger, and/or larger. Although the other evolutions look similar, you don't just give one of your Pokemon a paint brush/accessory and add a bit of purple. There's always a change to the base design that significantly distinguishes it.
EDIT: So, it's pretty much been confirmed that this guy is a fake.
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