(2) New Set of X/Y Rumors, Xerneas/Yveltal Half Decks [9/23]

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It's alright getting some animals we've had before. It adds variety and expands on the Pokemon world itself. At least I hope the Pokemon World has more than one type of certain animals. >.<

The Ghost Spider sounds interesting and would be a welcome change from more bat or rock/ground pokemon typically found in caves. Not that we won't see them, I'm sure we will.
 
Zielo said:
Blob55 said:
I just said we already have a Badger.
Also, Emboar.
Linoone is hardly a badger. It's more a weasel with stripes. It can be debatable.

And Emboar, well, yeah, you kinda got me there. Although it's not as boar-esque as I'd like it to be... meaning its not bipedal and the tusks aren't so defined.

You mean QUADrupedal.

I also really want the new Boar to have a long snout and for its pre-evo to have stripes, so they look more like actual boars instead of what people think all pigs pretty much look like, but bipeds.
 
Zielo said:
Linoone is hardly a badger. It's more a weasel with stripes. It can be debatable.

It's statements like these that make me think I'm the only one with access to the holy grail that is Google Images...
Badger
Weasel
It's not debatable.
Anyway, the "we already have a Pokemon based on that" argument kind of fails across more than one generation because we have tons of Pokemon sharing a basis with one or more other unrelated Pokemon.
Within a generation, that statement holds a bit more water, because a single generation by itself typically will not have more than one Pokemon family based on the same thing.
 
Linoone is hardly a badger. It's more a weasel with stripes. It can be debatable.
I think Linoone is either a ferret or a stoat.

Sometimes they do merge similar species but you shouldn't assume that they'll always do so. There is nothing even related to a Porcupine in Chespin's Japanese name, which is specifically derived from Hedgehog + Chestnut. He's a Hedgehog, with quills taken from the green fur-like Chestnut shell. You only have to look up images of a Chestnut to see the shell and tell where the inspiration came from. In this case, none of his design was taken from a Porcupine.
...which means what, exactly? Just because a word is used in the etymology of a Pokemon does not mean the Pokemon is based on that animal. It is not uncommon at all for Pokemon names to have the names of similar animals in their names.
For example, take the Totodile line. The two lower ones have 'crocodile' somewhere in the names, but the big guy has 'alligator'. Though the animals are quite similar, they are not the same - the crocodile spends most of its time in the water, whereas alligators are mostly on land.
Another one is the Charmander line. You go from a salamander...to a chameleon...to a lizard (in the names). So which is it? Rather, that line just takes bits and pieces from various reptilian animals for its design, since many of them are similar.

My point? Etymology does not always equal design. People may argue that Chespin/Quilladin are based on porcupines or hedgehogs, but one look will tell you they're obviously based on bowling balls.
 
I know what badgers and weasels look like. :| I personally think Linoone has a lot of weasel-like characteristics. It is very quick and streamline designed and just looks more built like a weasel to me. Badgers are generally slow and bulky and broad-faced.

Also yes I did mean quadrupedal. And I agree with your description of the boar Pokemon.
 
Frezgle said:
Zielo said:
Linoone is hardly a badger. It's more a weasel with stripes. It can be debatable.

It's statements like these that make me think I'm the only one with access to the holy grail that is Google Images...
Badger
Weasel
It's not debatable.
Anyway, the "we already have a Pokemon based on that" argument kind of fails across more than one generation because we have tons of Pokemon sharing a basis with one or more other unrelated Pokemon.
Within a generation, that statement holds a bit more water, because a single generation by itself typically will not have more than one Pokemon family based on the same thing.

Eevee and Vulpix are both 1st gen foxes, Chimchar and Ambipom are both 4th gen Monkeys, Snubbull and Houndour are both 2nd gen dogs ect...
 
DNA said:
Linoone is hardly a badger. It's more a weasel with stripes. It can be debatable.
I think Linoone is either a ferret or a stoat.

Either way, ferrets, stoats, weasels AND badgers, are all members of the same family; Mustelidae (sp?)
So I'm pretty sure we can all agree that Linoone is definitely a mustelidaian... :p
 
Zielo said:
DNA said:
I think Linoone is either a ferret or a stoat.

Either way, ferrets, stoats, weasels AND badgers, are all members of the same family; Mustelidae (sp?)
So I'm pretty sure we can all agree that Linoone is definitely a mustelidaian... :p

Maybe he's secretly a Dewott, as Otters are also Musteliaes.
 
I don't mind if its true except the togepi line,, because it will change one type from togetic and togekiss,, which is never done before,, they usually only add type like to magnemite, marill, gardevoir,, but never change one of the type,,
 
Osada said:
I don't mind if its true except the togepi line,, because it will change one type from togetic and togekiss,, which is never done before,, they usually only add type like to magnemite, marill, gardevoir,, but never change one of the type,,

Because Togepi is pure normal type, it makes me think the line will get Normal/Fairy typing.
On the other hand, Normal is usually thought of as the default type, so Togepi could get changed to pure Fairy.

Since GF are changing Togepi, does that mean they'll also change Celebi and Jirachi? Maybe get rid of the Psychic typing?
 
I'm guessing these rumors might be true since pokebeach's earliers ones were right on months before they were revealed. Except for Belch (unconfirmed poison move).I adore ghost types so I personally hope "Apparachnid" is real. I always imagined cute, sweet Helioptile was gonna evolve to that slime spitting, frill headed dinosaur from jurassic park so that wouldn't surprise me.
 
SuchADamnLady369 said:
I'm guessing these rumors might be true since pokebeach's earliers ones were right on months before they were revealed. Except for Belch (unconfirmed poison move).I adore ghost types so I personally hope "Apparachnid" is real. I always imagined cute, sweet Helioptile was gonna evolve to that slime spitting, frill headed dinosaur from jurassic park so that wouldn't surprise me.

Except these rumors are from a different source so will just have to wait until the official reveal.
 
SuchADamnLady369 said:
I'm guessing these rumors might be true since pokebeach's earliers ones were right on months before they were revealed. Except for Belch (unconfirmed poison move).I adore ghost types so I personally hope "Apparachnid" is real. I always imagined cute, sweet Helioptile was gonna evolve to that slime spitting, frill headed dinosaur from jurassic park so that wouldn't surprise me.

How many times do I have to say this? It's a different leaker so he might be lying.(I currently don't believe it until he gets stuff leaked that supports it besides the first leakers stuff)
 
Hmm... Anyone else find it odd that Meowstick looks unevolved, yet Glameow looks evolved?

Sent from my 3DS XL
 
Blob55 said:
Osada said:
I don't mind if its true except the togepi line,, because it will change one type from togetic and togekiss,, which is never done before,, they usually only add type like to magnemite, marill, gardevoir,, but never change one of the type,,

Because Togepi is pure normal type, it makes me think the line will get Normal/Fairy typing.
On the other hand, Normal is usually thought of as the default type, so Togepi could get changed to pure Fairy.

Since GF are changing Togepi, does that mean they'll also change Celebi and Jirachi? Maybe get rid of the Psychic typing?

wow, jirachi, and celebi? I think that's too much,, I personally don't like type changing,, addition is another thing though,,
 
Osada said:
Blob55 said:
Because Togepi is pure normal type, it makes me think the line will get Normal/Fairy typing.
On the other hand, Normal is usually thought of as the default type, so Togepi could get changed to pure Fairy.

Since GF are changing Togepi, does that mean they'll also change Celebi and Jirachi? Maybe get rid of the Psychic typing?

wow, jirachi, and celebi? I think that's too much,, I personally don't like type changing,, addition is another thing though,,
Especially since Celebi, and Jirachi are dual typed....
 
DNA said:
Linoone is hardly a badger. It's more a weasel with stripes. It can be debatable.
I think Linoone is either a ferret or a stoat.

Sometimes they do merge similar species but you shouldn't assume that they'll always do so. There is nothing even related to a Porcupine in Chespin's Japanese name, which is specifically derived from Hedgehog + Chestnut. He's a Hedgehog, with quills taken from the green fur-like Chestnut shell. You only have to look up images of a Chestnut to see the shell and tell where the inspiration came from. In this case, none of his design was taken from a Porcupine.
...which means what, exactly? Just because a word is used in the etymology of a Pokemon does not mean the Pokemon is based on that animal. It is not uncommon at all for Pokemon names to have the names of similar animals in their names.
For example, take the Totodile line. The two lower ones have 'crocodile' somewhere in the names, but the big guy has 'alligator'. Though the animals are quite similar, they are not the same - the crocodile spends most of its time in the water, whereas alligators are mostly on land.
Another one is the Charmander line. You go from a salamander...to a chameleon...to a lizard (in the names). So which is it? Rather, that line just takes bits and pieces from various reptilian animals for its design, since many of them are similar.

My point? Etymology does not always equal design. People may argue that Chespin/Quilladin are based on porcupines or hedgehogs, but one look will tell you they're obviously based on bowling balls.

except a porcupine and a hedgehog are obviously different animals with no similarities in appearance, besides having quills.... while an alligator and a crocodile are very similar animals in appearance with slight differences.. same goes with salamander and lizards.. a chameleon IS a lizard, btw... a salamander isn't, but it bares similarities to a lizard moreso than a porcupine does to a hedgehog, the same goes with alligators and crocodiles... the whole charmander line is based off of the likeness of a lizard/salamander the whole totodile line is based off of crocodiles and alligators, chespin is based specifically off of a hedgehog and chesnut, which is NOT a porcupine. If you're going to compare two completely different species for one similarity you might as well say that a a tiger and housecat are the same animal(maybe i should use a goat and a cow, instead of a housecat and a tiger.. lol)
 
...Please don't completely ignore what I said with your own tangents. I don't like it when people do that.

If you really want some more examples:
Wurmple isn't a worm
Venonat is too big to be a gnat
Politoed isn't a toad
Spiders aren't insects, yet they are classified as Bug-type
Calling Samurott an otter is a gigantic stretch
Ducklett is the Ugly Duckling

You get the idea.
You are splitting hairs over something that you don't even need to split hairs over.
 
DNA said:
...Please don't completely ignore what I said with your own tangents. I don't like it when people do that.

If you really want some more examples:
Wurmple isn't a worm
Venonat is too big to be a gnat
Politoed isn't a toad
Spiders aren't insects, yet they are classified as Bug-type
Calling Samurott an otter is a gigantic stretch
Ducklett is the Ugly Duckling

You get the idea.
You are splitting hairs over something that you don't even need to split hairs over.
Which is why you don't mess with DNA Garchomp isn't a shark or dinosaur.
 
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