2014's Standard Format: Boundaries Crossed-on [7/22]

Serperior said:
Prism Energy is out. But more importantly, Accelgor is gone. THANK. YOU. ROTATION.

Well actually it was reprinted

I'm so happy
Auto-paralysis was so annoying *boos*
Thank you for pointing out it's fine I would've never noticed
 
Fighting is overpowered. Stage 2 decks are pretty much dead. Lock decks will be on the rise if Pyroar counts. This is going to be a bad format until we get a Landuros counter.
 
I'm actually pretty excited about this rotation. I just wish that hypnotoxic laser wouldve been gone too, because I hate that card so much. Anyway I'm really glad that I kept my landorus, because that card is going to skyrocket due to the new fighting deck
 
Everybody is complaining about Fighting becoming SO OP, but you guys are forgetting one tiny little detail

The next set is based around PSYCHIC types
 
Ivysaurman said:
Everybody is complaining about Fighting becoming SO OP, but you guys are forgetting one tiny little detail

The next set is based around PSYCHIC types

Isn't there a run of tournaments before said set comes out though? Cities or somethin'.
 
Even then with Landorus/Lucario-EX, Yveltal-EX can be a problem to it with Evil Ball and Fighting Resistance :p
 
ShayminTails said:
Even then with Landorus/Lucario-EX, Yveltal-EX can be a problem to it with Evil Ball and Fighting Resistance :p

Evil Ball plz. Landorus attacks with 1 Energy. Lucario from 1-3.

About the Fighting Resistance you're right.

But the problem will end on September 3rd. D:<
 
ShayminTails said:
Even then with Landorus/Lucario-EX, Yveltal-EX can be a problem to it with Evil Ball and Fighting Resistance :p

LUCARIOS FIRST ATTACK DOESNT APPLY RESISTANCE.

Lol have fun evil balling w/o dark patches.
That's like trying to play VirGen w/o G-Booster or Plasma Energies
 
AlexanderTheAwesome said:
LUCARIOS FIRST ATTACK DOESNT APPLY RESISTANCE.

Lol have fun evil balling w/o dark patches.
That's like trying to play VirGen w/o G-Booster or Plasma Energies

I've never really used Dark Patch in my Darkrai/Yveltal deck, I've used the Baby Yveltals for that and I've been hit and miss with the deck (Mostly hit :))
 
Even with this news, I can already see a deck, with or without Landorus-ex, if only a simple one, that serves as a picture regarding what I believe will happen to Yveltal-EX and Mewtwo-EX come Furious Fists release. I believe those two won't matter despite Yveltal-EX's fighting resistance and most Fighting-types' weakness to Mewtwo-EX, even Landorus-EX and others, come Furious Fists if you choose the right pokemon, as I see a way to make it a broken expansion at the expense of other powerhouse pokemon, judging from the list below(Mods, if you think this is inappropriate, please edit it to your liking, but I believe this list is my way to try to prove my opinions on this card set: an example as proof):

Pokemon:
4 Furious Fists Landorus
3-0-3 Machamp
3-3 Tyrantrum
2-2 M-Lucario EX

Trainers(Items)/Supporters/Stadiums:
4 Focus Sash
2 Startling Megaphone

4 Korrina
2 Fossil Researcher
3 Rare Candy
3 Ultra Ball

2 Training Center

Energy:
16 Fighting
4 Strong Energy

...With the mentioned Landorus a non-ex fighting-type against the norms, while it is weak to water unlike most of all other fighting-types, it does have a baby yveltal similairty: the discard pile-to-bench energy scoop-and-attach method. Yet with Machamp's ability, the right support(including a Mega Lucario-Tyrantrum combo), and the right trainer cards(startling megaphone for garbotoxin, with ultra ball for energy-discarding purposes for Landorus-bench energy-scooping, just to name a few possible things this expansion offers for Fighting-type decks), while decklists here are frowned upon in these parts of the forums, while the above list is only listed as a way to add to discussion in terms of whether or not you think the expansion will break the Pokemon TCG by means of damage acceleration and uber-looking cards that look capable of crushing the rest of the Pokemon TCG, I have some questions to you all regarding my possible BCR-On-legal example response decklist to Psychics and future planned sets, as well as the rest of the TCG metadecks, from BCR to Flashfire: Will expansion of Pokemon TCG matter when Furious Fists is released? And the biggest question of all: Given the energy acceleration method that Furious Fists offers, in your opinion, do you think the above is the blueprint that makes the rest of the Pokemon TCG inferior?

^ I believe that if my prediction on the answer is right, the looks on paper will prove lethal on the TCG playing field in a way that may make the game more broken at the expense of all other TCG possible deck pieces. But we will have to wait for the answers to unravel. In the meantime, while I'm not asking for advice, I wonder if the right setup, such as or similar to the above, can make Furious Fists the broken expansion that I bet TPCi is not anticipating, making the new BCR-On format irrelevant, and if one decides to try it, he/she could win it all by using such broken-looking cards. Do you think the same, or do you think there's another way to beat the Psychics coming after furious fists?
 
Am I the only one on the planet that thinks Gigalith/Dugtrio would have been a cool deck?
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GadgetJax said:
Am I the only one on the planet that thinks Gigalith/Dugtrio would have been a cool deck?
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59-dugtrio.jpg

And it will be for the BW-ON format.
 
GadgetJax said:
Am I the only one on the planet that thinks Gigalith/Dugtrio would have been a cool deck?
It's all fun and games until someone pulls out a bench sniper.

NintendoAlian said:
What about Mega Heracross-EX, Virizion-EX, and Genesect-EX. Also don't forget about the expanded format.
That would be a cool idea if Pyroar never existed.

cargjammer said:
*Insert cargjammer's last post here*
I agree that the new cards are pretty broken, which must be why LucarioEX is on preorders for $20+ :/

Also I have tested it on Pyroar so far and it crushed the poor lion like Bambi vs Godzilla.
 
Mr.Muffin said:
Fighting is overpowered. Stage 2 decks are pretty much dead. Lock decks will be on the rise if Pyroar counts. This is going to be a bad format until we get a Landuros counter.

I'll admit Stage 2 decks took a massive hit from the rotation with the loss of Level Ball and Tropical Beach and with the 1st Turn Rules from B/W still intact that makes it difficult to use "Call for Family" for early game setup If you end up going 1st which puts you at a terrible disadvantage against your opponent who will most likely have the advantage with Basic EX and/or Stage 1 speed. The only Stage 2 decks that are dead in this format are the one's that rely on Abilities to be competitive such as Empoleon and Butterfree while Stage 2's like Blaziken and Golem work just fine without relying on Abilities.

As for Lock decks, Seismitoad EX will be a pain to get around unless you're running Leafeon (Plasma Freeze) for Energy Crush, Pyroar's not that hard to get around If you're running Garbodor or focusing on a Stage 1 or Stage 2 attacker, and last but not least is of course Garbodor which is the reason why players run Catcher and/or Lysandre these days. If your deck doesn't rely on Abilities and has a way to bench snipe like with Blaziken's Burning Shot then you shouldn't have any problems unless they manage to have Mountain Ring out instead of Mr. Mime for Bench Barrier.

Best counter I can possibly think of right now against Landorus EX would be Glaceon (Plasma Freeze) which for a Water and a DCE would do 150 damage with Silver Bangle attached while putting Landorus EX to sleep unless they retreat via Switch. If Landorus manages to stay asleep for one turn due to Icy Wind you'll be able to draw 2 prizes off of it or you could ensure the KO through LaserBank, or you could just Secret Sword for 120+ damage with Muscle Band and LaserBank with Keldeo EX granted you counterstadium their Fighting Stadium with Virbank City Gym. The Water Energy attachment for Glaceon shouldn't be that hard to pull off with Professor's Letter unless you're Item Locked by Seismitoad EX.
 
I think that mega heracross will be viable with hydreigon or aromatisse, because you can just keep healing with max potion and then doing 180.
 
Mega Heracross is really hard to work. He has a lot of potential, but it is a mega. You are leaving yourselve vulnerable to another attack. M Heracross requires a lot of set up and help to work. If you face any deck that can do alright damage you are boned.
 
MountainDrew said:
I think that mega heracross will be viable with hydreigon or aromatisse, because you can just keep healing with max potion and then doing 180.


Sorry but since Pyroar can deal 180 damage to you in one hit, this is nothing to think about. ;)


I'm really disapointed by this rotation... With LT still intact, we got again a rotation with no impact!
Only Klinkklang and maybe Darkrai/Yveltal will suffer a blow.
Kinda boring, not like back in the day when like 5 sets rotated out and you really had a fresh new meta!
This meta will be kinda the same until something comes that is strong enough to impact it on the big scale!
 
PsychedelicBreakfast said:
daisukereds said:
Wait wait.. how is N still in the format? I thought he was part of Dark Explorers and that was that..

Reprinted as promo BW100.

You mean this list: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/BW_Black_Star_Promos_(TCG)? So, where exactly is this "set" positioned? At the end of BW (meaning, after BW - Legendary Treasures)? I would love to know when this could be rotated out as I didn't even know this was still valid.
Also, if that is the case.. isn't there a Tropical Beach in that list? I thought that thing finally rotated out! making all Stage 2 decks worse.

Finally, something I've always wondered about.. are Championship decks (the ones with player's signature on the cards) in Standard?
 
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