Are We Alone?

Do you think that there are extraterrestrial life out there?

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PheonyxXx said:
I love reading through this entire thread and seeing alot of B/S. people saying the first UFO sightings weren't till after we made it to the moon? I'm sorry, but go look at the hieroglyphics and wall paintings from ancient civilizations, they all have made references to UFO's as well as Extraterrestrial beings. Now if you want something more, the first 2 astronauts on the moon were Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, both have even come out as to saying seeing UFO's before even making it to the moon. Buzz also said that on the moon they saw a alien mining facility, and they were told to never come back to the moon. Now lets look, since 1969, that was our only long trip to the moon. Every other time we went up there, we were there for a few seconds, grabbed some rocks and left. Why is that? If theres nothing telling us not to be there, why wouldn't we stay?
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I honestly can't take you serious on this one...

Aliens telling human beings never to come back? Talking aliens? On a planet with no atmosphere? How would they survive? How would they even evolve there? Why the moon? How in the world can NASA keep this a secret? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? Seriously, a good dose of skepticism and common sense wouldn't hurt ._.

Please, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUB4j0n2UDU
 
CCloud said:
Why do people even care? We have other things to worry about.
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To people who have posted messages like this, then you seem to be against human curiosity in general? If there is even a remote chance that intelligent life is out there, then of course people are going to care because it's such an interesting concept. And besides, since when did this mild fascination of ours ever get in the way of solving these "other things" we have to worry about? It never has.



"Buzz also said that on the moon they saw a alien mining facility, and they were told to never come back to the moon."

This made my day. I would absolutely love you to link to a source. I hope it's not those pesky Clangers again.
 
PheonyxXx said:
Science says theres nothing there but how can you trust science when they waste 3 years and tax dollars to prove that people look better when you're drunk than when you're sober?
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Do you even understand what science is?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcavPAFiG14

And seriously, dude, there are sites like that on the web for every ridiculous claim...
You don't trust the whole of science, yet you trust a dubious website like that?
 
First website that I found, and I originally learned of the matter on history channel. How are you going to discredited Niel Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, and Former Top NASA officials? Science said it was impossible for a plane to have stealth to radars, guess what, months later here comes the stealth bombers right out of area 51. The government covers everything up. Why is it that we're taught hitler committed suicide but just this past year when they did testing on the skull fragments it was that of a woman age of 40? Theres always cover ups. Like is said, it seems like every country is in agree with scientific matters, except the United States. The US scientists usually only reveal "facts" that are supported by the government. Nothing ever goes against what politicians say. The entire system is corrupt, and thats a well known fact.


http://www.ourstrangeworld.net/index.php/main/article/alien_bases_on_the_moon/

More stuff to go towards the point that Luna exists.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK5xgEJpBKM 4:something and 6:00

Also, did you watch the baloney detection kit video?
 
Seriously, its impossible for there to be life on a planet with no atmosphere. There was some ancient ice there, blah blah, nothings there any more. And I'm pretty sure if Buzz actually said that and Neil and Buzz actually saw aliens then we would have known. Everyone - not just one guy.

And thanks for all adressing my post guys :) /not trying to spam and failing
 
PheonyxXx said:
First website that I found, and I originally learned of the matter on history channel. How are you going to discredited Niel Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, and Former Top NASA officials? Science said it was impossible for a plane to have stealth to radars, guess what, months later here comes the stealth bombers right out of area 51. The government covers everything up. Why is it that we're taught hitler committed suicide but just this past year when they did testing on the skull fragments it was that of a woman age of 40? Theres always cover ups. Like is said, it seems like every country is in agree with scientific matters, except the United States. The US scientists usually only reveal "facts" that are supported by the government. Nothing ever goes against what politicians say. The entire system is corrupt, and thats a well known fact.


http://www.ourstrangeworld.net/index.php/main/article/alien_bases_on_the_moon/

More stuff to go towards the point that Luna exists.
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Seriously, watch the video Spoon posted. Why are you denying everything science had accomplised in many years by many well and high educated scientists? And yet you think people like in your link do have more valuable claims?

I read through the site you posted. Yet I haven't seen any evidence at all. Here and there is stated; ''Well, there are alien bases on the dark side of the Moon''. Okay... where is the evidence? ''Well, uhm... there is no evidence because Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin keep denying it, those aliens told them we should never come back anymore etc.''

You can't make claims if it doesn't support the whole picture. How do these ''aliens'' survive on the Moon? Where did they come from? (since they obviously haven't evolved there, then we would've seen some other less intelligent life as well crawling and squating in the moon dust.) And many more questions...

And I would like to thank Spoon for posting that link, it's very usefull.
 
What a funny story.

First off, how in the world do those "aliens on the other side of the moon" even communicate to us? By watching us and picking up our language? Telepathy? Some code that the astronauts could have somehow deciphered in mere minutes? Please.

"Structures MILES in width in height." So we obviously NEVER saw that other side of the moon as we launch different projects to go past moons to other past, because NO ONE obviously launched anything to go past Mars and just MADE IT ALL UP.

"Did you ever wonder why the Moon landings stopped and why we have not tried to build a Moon Base? According to the NASA Astronaut Neil Armstrong the aliens have a base there and told us in no uncertain terms to get off and stay off the Moon!"
Read this. Is this also more cover up junk to delay us from even trying to establish a base on the moon, or maybe you haven't even bothered to consider the possibility that making a base on a planet with no atmosphere is much harder than it frickin' sounds?

One more thing, and this is your quote:
How are you going to discredited Niel Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, and Former Top NASA officials?
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How can you even tell that they actually said it? You blatantly say that the government covers up stuff from the public, so how in the world can you honestly believe that the words displayed in your face that might as well have been made up by ANYONE to be true?

Just really. If you really think so, then how in this universe are you going to explain the hundreds of other contradictions that "science" brings up to this theory? Are you going to tell me that it's all made up too and that aliens can survive without an atmosphere and built a base on the moon with insulated material that can withstand the scorching and chilling extremes of the temperature of the moon. And they've done NOTHING but was us earthlings? No really, I want to see you come up with something good. Give me to chuckle once or twice about.
 
Again, not much sufficient evidence to prove it. Aside from the mysteries of area 51, I don't think we can certainly say whether we are alone or not.

However, there have been numerous sightings (some with more limited evidence than others) of Unidentified Flying Objects (or UFOs). Most are unexplained. They could be aliens; or they could be human. This doesn't prove the existence of "aliens", but it does present them as a possible solution.

As for whether there is other life in this solar system, I think not. I honestly don't see how we couldn't have discovered it by now if it was there.
 
PokeChamp said:
Again, not much sufficient evidence to prove it. Aside from the mysteries of area 51, I don't think we can certainly say whether we are alone or not.
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I thought it was common knowledge that Area 51 held all video game characters ever created.
 
yes and I have proof, there called martians and there from mar's, like canada and canandian's, earth earthling's, japanese, Taiwanese, Filipino's, villain's, super hero's, the list go's on (or sumone's imagination, i'll go for imagination). cya

P.S. most of what people have seen is government tested craft's (special secret, by the by area 51 is were they secretly making pokemon, if they disagree there lieing, jkjk) also on a more serious note (there has been photography of aliens but were re-proven to be genetically mutated humans due to are soceity, in short is 100% true, were do you think aids come's from, not monkey's, contrary to popular belief it wasn't known until drug's became main stream in the 60's, there is a woman who did a 20 year study on this proving against it, which mentioned that over 600 years ago having sex with animals like monkey's was like pleasing the god's, plus I find it funny how in north America it was more heavily prown to have more case's of aids then Africa or Brazil, and most people that have aid's in north America are homeless people and prostitute's (in which my uncle is one of them and has the disease but has never gone to either of those country's) in short the government is covering it up and paying scientist's a heavy fee to make up some bs story for everyone to believe, if they found something out that meant all of us dieing they would lie to us even when it's at the most worst, just like in the movie 2012, why? because they want us to stay and fuel there nation's right to the bitter end so they can make more money). weither you believe me or not is not what I care about but just like they say that other life exists it probably does, but it's not going to come out this far to just look at us and do nothing, would you?

in the end it's control, and fear has been working since nixon (I was at one time a well read political activist, now pokemon tcg play/comic book artist)
 
people above me, you lose your credibility when you have so many spelling and grammar errors, i'm just letting you guys know for the record

but to the point, there is no concrete proof of extraterrestrial life, no
but taking into consideration that we live in one solar system, in one galaxy
of the trillions and trillions of galaxies that we can ensure exist in this universe

the odds that a suitable living environment exists somewhere else is beyond probable, it's pretty much guaranteed
 
Off topic: Don't criticize people's spelling and grammar when you neglect to use capitals and periods ;D

Back on topic:

Seriously, anybody who thinks they can prove that there is life on mars or on the moon is being a moron. Just research the facts, then come back once you’ve left behind all the mumbo jumbo.

I'm still toying with the whole infinity thing, but as far as I can make there's not much reason why the universe shouldn't be infinite.
 
varit said:
yes and I have proof, there called martians and there from mar's, like canada and canandian's, earth earthling's, japanese, Taiwanese, Filipino's, villain's, super hero's, the list go's on (or sumone's imagination, i'll go for imagination). cya

P.S. most of what people have seen is government tested craft's (special secret, by the by area 51 is were they secretly making pokemon, if they disagree there lieing, jkjk) also on a more serious note (there has been photography of aliens but were re-proven to be genetically mutated humans due to are soceity, in short is 100% true, were do you think aids come's from, not monkey's, contrary to popular belief it wasn't known until drug's became main stream in the 60's, there is a woman who did a 20 year study on this proving against it, which mentioned that over 600 years ago having sex with animals like monkey's was like pleasing the god's, plus I find it funny how in north America it was more heavily prown to have more case's of aids then Africa or Brazil, and most people that have aid's in north America are homeless people and prostitute's (in which my uncle is one of them and has the disease but has never gone to either of those country's) in short the government is covering it up and paying scientist's a heavy fee to make up some bs story for everyone to believe, if they found something out that meant all of us dieing they would lie to us even when it's at the most worst, just like in the movie 2012, why? because they want us to stay and fuel there nation's right to the bitter end so they can make more money). weither you believe me or not is not what I care about but just like they say that other life exists it probably does, but it's not going to come out this far to just look at us and do nothing, would you?

in the end it's control, and fear has been working since nixon (I was at one time a well read political activist, now pokemon tcg play/comic book artist)
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Aids-denialism is killing people. The connection between drug-use and aids was a hypothesis, but has been largely discredited by now. Watch this (I'm not sure it'll debunk your claims, but it's nearly impossible to understand them, please use some spelling and grammar...)

The infiniteness (actual word...) of the universe is a rather complicated problem. It's expanding, and you can't really expand when you're infinitely big, so stuff like 4th dimensional expansion and whatnot comes in. I honestly don't understand half of it (ask Stephen Hawking), but I doubt there's an infinite amount of universes around, since the energy released by the Big Bang can only change into a finite amount of mass. So basically: Infinite universe: I don't know, maybe; infinite amount of stars: nah.
 
um... ok, what I was technically trying to say is, for starter's, I know first hand as my family knows exactly where aids come's from (a few member's have it). but in truth it was a long winded point that split into 2 understanding's, if someone from another planet knew we were here then why would, after we developed jet's and create the random theory of alien's (if you've read most medical report's, or even a few, from the 1800's to the early 1900's there has been case's of children born with almost alien like body's and or physical feature's), they not even come down here to say hello and after we abducted them come here for war. if your family member was in some unknown world and you had the power to get them back would you not create chaos and get your family member back?

in my ending statement, this is no science or bs this is pure logic, meaning after we had developed the technology or drug's, then why did we start seeing and having aliens and disease's like aid's? Frankfurt H.G. On "BULLSHIT", nuff sed. cya

P.S. the study of relativity was created by a man in a wheel chair that is limited in life but wishes to ideologize the fact of limitless space, if such an idea was true then why do I feel caged even when looking out into space? maybe we are apart of the limited universe and are not the original point of existence. meaning that we are one of the many universe's that make's up and even bigger or smaller part of life, basically an existence apart of an existence, or a space apart of a space, we might be so sped up we cannot create equivalent time and space ratio with the actual being of existence and became even less limitless and infinite then we thought but even the same, relativity = a ratio of existence X infinity, space, and limitlessness = equivalent balance, meaning that maybe we are the only being's in this universe and so on and so on. this is a very small part of my theory of equivalent balance the rest of it is based off of pure logic and random theory just like with mister wheal chair.
 
Infinity is hard to understand with our finite brain. What is infinity? Is our universe infinite? Probably not, since an infinite amount of space isn't able to expand, since it already reached infinity. And since our universe is expanding it is impossible to be infinite at the same time. Imagine the universe as a sphere, imagine it expanding. So it grows from the edges. If the our universe was infinite it wouldn't have any edges, so there would be no place to expand from.

Also (if I'm right) there is no possible way to detect infinity with our finite brain. Imagine a infinite long road. Would you ever be able to reach one end of the road? Since it is infinite it wouldn't even have a point in the middle, since there simply is no center in infinity. It could be anywhere.

Also another example; imagine a hotel with an infinite amount of rooms. In every one of those infinite rooms there is a guest. So the hotel is full, every single room is occupied, yet the hotel is still able to take guests since it has an infinite amount of rooms.

It could also be possible as well our universe is a small part in a multiverse (a multiverse containing a(n) (in)finite amount of universes), like Earth is in our Solar System and our Solar System is in our universe. If our universe is part of a multiverse it could also be possible this multiverse is again part of another bigger multiverse which again contains its own multiverses which contain on their own their own universes and so on. Only thinking about it makes it an interesting subject.

Don't know why, but a took a break and now I see I left this unposted... Well.. I should post it right now then ;D
 
I believe in extra-terrestrial life out there (somewhere out there, probably not close), but there's no real proof that I would consider outstanding, so I can't say for sure. I just have a feeling lol.

dmaster out.
 
I thought I heard on the Science channel or some reputable source that had NASA on their side that they had actually found frozen organisms on one of our other planet's moons? (I think it was one of Jupiter's moons.) I'm not sure, but given how ice was found on the moon, it would not be entirely improbable to believe that there was once life on the planet, back when possibly the sun was new and the planets were still forming. To me, it makes sense. Constant solar flares could have eradicated the atmosphere of the moon and then the water froze.

This is all hypothetical. But, considering how little we even know about, say, Jupiter's moons, I think that there could definitely be life out there. To think otherwise would be not only ignorant, but plain dumb. I'm sure there's a civilization out there more technically advanced than us, and more intelligent. There's one phrase that comes to mind...'There's always someone better than you'. What if that referred to the entire race of human beings on Earth?
 
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