BCIF & BDIF?

We do not count supporters/trainers when looking at the bcif. Why? Because they're something that everything uses, and they're NEEDED for decks to work. Because it's just a given that we will have cards like bebe/roseanne we don't consider them BCIF.

Now as for Luxray, yes. With out a doubt the BCIF.

Claydol is a joke. Uxie is also amazing, but only for it's power.

Luxray has both the most broken power in the game, but ALSO has some pretty darn insane attacks. 60 for L? Are you serious? That's so broken it's not funny. Add to that the fact that you can turn him, along with the rest of the G engine and you've got the BCIF.

BTW, Blazeray will be a cute little deck. Cute, but not BDIF.
 
Well if we're only counting Pokemon, then yes it would be Luxray. Or maybe Uxie as every deck uses it; a basic drawing up to 7 cards without a drawback AND a way to get around Fainting Spell can only be good. Luxray is just as good if not better, but every deck can fit Uxie in. It also has a solid LV. X. I don't really want to decide between those two. But I'd still count trainers simply because not every deck uses the same one. Some SP decks don't use Bebe's and some evolution decks don't use Cyrus. The only one that's truly used in every deck is Roseanne.

And I just realized that I wrote somewhere that Blazeray could be the BDIF. I don't know how this got into my mind, but at the moment I was thinking that Blazeiken Lv. X could do 110 for 1 and had the 40 hp increase. So yeah, I'm going to correct myself and say that it won't be the BDIF. Though I'll always like Blazeiken's (regular) first attack a lot.
 
BCIF: Luxray GL X. This card is so amazing and versatile that this card is an obvious choice for this spot. It has a broken Power that is welcomed by almost any deck. The fact that it's a Basic means that getting it out Turn 2 isn't rocket science. With Energy Gain, it's attacks are incredibly cheap, albeit they do have their drawbacks. However, these drawbacks can be worked around with something that can get energy back (Thrash Volt?) or the use of a Poke-Turn (Flash Impact). Speaking of Poke-Turn, that allows to use its broken Power time and time again....looks like Gust of Wind is back, and we all know that a well-timed Gust of Wind wins games. Its HP is pretty good for a Basic Level X, that being 110. It often survives a hit, and while it's easily 2-shotted, so is almost everything else. Its Resistance isn't awesome by any means, but resisting Dialga G is still a plus. Free retreat is really what made this card, as you can now use its Gust of Wind Power and then send up a big hitter. (Though you could still use Luxray to attack if the Poke has 70 or less HP) Even its Weakness isn't terribad. Cards like Sunyshore can fix that, and the only popular Fighting type in DP-RR was Machamp....and Luxray already had problems with it to begin with. (Though most of Luxray's partners can beat Macheap as long as they have Unown G.)

Another top reason this card is BCIF is that it can be used in numerous decks. It can be used with Beedrill, Dialga G, Palkia G, Infernape 4, and a few other good cards. With SV, Absol G, Blaziken FB, and Honchkrow can also use Luxray to good effect.

Being in numerous top-cutting Nationals and Worlds decks is a true testament to how good this card is. It's obviously not a fluke that this card was used in the T2 Nationals decks and starred in at least 2 Worlds-winning decks.

BDIF: If you think there is a BDIF, please look at the meta-game again. We can't really say what the BDIF will be for DP-SV, seeing as how we haven't had any tournys for that format yet. There might not even be one, just like DP-RR. However, Blazeray is overhyped, IMO.

Seth: Masters ARE the best. Even a 6 yr. old could figure this out. Besides, why are you ragging on the Masters when you'll become one in 9 days? =p
 
Pokemon.

I guess Luxray GL LV.X is the BCIF, but Uxie deserves a spot too. Luxray literally only goes into SP-related decks, except Beedrill GE. I mean, if you're going to use Luxray GL LV.X, you need a PokeTurn and another spot for the regular Luxray GL. You need 3-4 spots for the "Gust of Wind", where Uxie gives you the set up you need. Uxie fits in every deck, but Luxray only a few. (Check Blue Thunder's post).
 
However, Luxray GL is more all-around good than Uxie. Sure, Uxie's more splashable, but Uxie isn't all that good of an attacker (obviously exception is when going against Gengar) and its weakness and HP aren't exactly good. The Power is about the only thing that is amazing about it, but its Power also has competition in the form of Claydol. Luxray doesn't have so much competition. Also, Uxie usually ends up as dead weight after it does its trick, while Luxray might actually be able to score a KO.

If I run Claydol in my deck and have it out on the field in a game, I generally don't want to waste a bench space on Uxie. Especially when you consider we have bench-restriction cards like Dusknoir DP and Palkia G, which are still used (Dusknoir) or commonly played (Palkia G).

However, I will agree with you that Uxie is still in the Top 5 of cards in the format. Maybe even Top 3.
 
The Power of Three said:
Card it's obvious: Roseanne's Research. It's played in every single deck there is. There is no debating, this is end of discussion on BCIF. :p
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Agreed.


I'd vote for Gechamp with Relicanth or Blazeray for BDIF.
 
Top 5 IMHO
1.) Uxie LA / Luxray GL LV.X RR (1 of 'em)
2.) Uxie LA / Luxray GL LV.X RR (The other one)
3.) Claydol GE
4.) Unown G GE
5.) Dialga G LV.X PT

They're all necessities / really good cards that shut down your opponent or set you up.
 
That's only because of your Legos.... IMHO Palkia G LV.X and DIalga G LV.X are on the same level on disruptive annoyance.
 
IMHO, Darth Pika. I mean, Palkia G's good once with its Power, (Power Spray!!) but Dialga G goes on forever. Palkia G is my 6th, believe it or not.
 
Gengar is gonna be BDIF. Being able to use Queen, Groos and Relicant, it has an answer to almost everything. Heck, Gross makes the LV.X more viable!
 
gengar the baller said:
GeChamp and Blazeray are not BDIF because GeChamp is inconsitent and Blazeray kind of dies out after the early game.
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Have you tried GeChamp with relicanth? Its crazy good. Remember it won Jpn nationals. Relicanth does an amazing amount for the deck. They either get sniped with gengar, or they get sniped with relicanth because of unown G.

I'll admit blazeray has a faster start than a late game, but at least you don't have to keep up with energy as much as in luxape.
 
gengar the baller said:
GeChamp and Blazeray are not BDIF because GeChamp is inconsitent and Blazeray kind of dies out after the early game.
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a good blazray wont die out after the first few turns.
 
There is no BDIF, over 10 choices of decks to choose. The best deck to play is the deck you have most confidence in.

To me, BCIF might be Claydol.
 
Okay top 10 Cards(oh and BTW this is for DP-RR as I am not going to predict the Metagame okay)
1)Roseanne's Research
2)Cyrus's Conspiracy
3)Bebe's Search
4)Uxie LA
4)Claydol GE(yes I'm calling it a draw, they both work well situationally,it depends on the deck)
5)Luxray GL LV.X
6)Gengar SF
7)Infernape 4 LV.X
8)Palkia G LV.X
8)Dialga G LV.X(again another tie, these two are very close IMO)
9)Machamp(would've garnered higher ranking but has a relatively low damage output until the X which hurts Champ too)
10)Unown G(falls because if you start w/ him it can't do anything)

Honorable Mentions(in NO order)
1)Gastly SF(you can't deny this epic card)
2)Flygon LV.X(sorry Flygon you are kinda slow)
3)Dialga G(Deafean lock is awesome)
4)Uxie LV.X(zen blade isn't bad for a T2 attacker not an SP and Trade off is nice)
5)Poketurn(changes games plain and simple)

Top 5 decks
1)Luxape
1)Speedrill
2)Dialga G lock
2)Legos
3)Gengar Variants
3)Flygon Variants

Alot of those are very close and that's why they're ties.
 
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