So recently on a brief vacation I was bored, and was scrolling through our hotel's TV channels. I settled on Animal Planet's "Finding Bigfoot," and I was interested. So what is your opinion on Bigfoot? Could he really exist, and has escaped the eye of civilization for so long? Post your opinion!
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GREENMONKEYDUMP said:
LOOOOOOL!!!
Anyway, as much as I like myths, that's it, it's just a myth. So no, I personally don't believe it's real... but that has nothing to do with evolution. (seriously, let me just LOL again...)
people always talk about how there are undiscovered life in the deep depths of the ocean. and so many times throughout the years, we find new life.
who is to say that bigfoot doesnt exist, and isnt some form of a yeti/sas that most believe?
hypocrites (in general, not specific to this forum)
who is to say that bigfoot doesnt exist, and isnt some form of a yeti/sas that most believe?
hypocrites (in general, not specific to this forum)
I completely think BigFoot is a childern's tale...but I also don't see how it can't be possible.
You have a clear misunderstanding of evolution. There is no "in between" phase of an ape and a human in the way you are thinking. Every individual generation, there will be very minor changes to each offspring. If those changes are beneficial, that offspring will be able to breed and pass on those beneficial traits. Speciation takes A TON of generations. Generations without a given trait will move on (ala Darwin's finches), but new traits being passed down that are good will allow for the family that carry that trait to survive better, and breed more easily. There is no such thing as a "missing link" -- We have plenty of transitional fossils to show the natural progression of many of the surviving species. I'd recommend you go look at Homo Habilis and Homo Erectus. While you're at it, go read a book about Evolutionary Biology. Don't go around "not believing" in something as scientifically sound as evolution before you actually understand it. Besides, if evolution wasn't real, how else would we get Charizard? They don't just appear in the wild... you have to evolve Charmander to get them.GREENMONKEYDUMP said:
Now then, reports of Bigfoot are always mixed. The prevailing theory is that the creature is about 2-3 meters tall, large, hairy, ape-like, and over 230 kg. That is mildly believable. Apes can have offspring that are larger than what is expected. We have a good example of this in homo sapiens. When you start throwing in some outrageous claims, that is when it becomes difficult to believe. Bigfoot as a species is also very difficult to believe. An entire species of giant apes -- relatively undiscovered? It is hard to believe that they would be undiscovered. That being said, there are many species that we have yet to discover, but I would imagine that these species are mostly bugs, birds, aquatic, and minor deviations from known species. Such big species such as the concept of a giant ape (like a bigfoot) being undiscovered is unlikely at best.
I'd like more information about this special you watched. A friend of mine is a cryptozoologist. He fails to follow the scientific method in most of his endeavors, so his work is rarely credible. IDK if that is how many cryptozoologists work... but that is how my friend works...
Zero said:
While your skepticism is perfectly reasonable, I don't think that the idea of sasquatches as a species is all that far-fetched (I feel the need to say here that assuming bigfoot is real, it is not a lone creature, it is an entire species. To think otherwise only justifies even more passing it off as a myth.) Since even long before the popularity and awareness of bigfoot, native americans and European settlers have had stories of similar encounters. It isn't all that unlikely that sasquatches are just a species that isn't exactly thriving, as in possibly close to extinction. Whether this is true or not, they mostly avoid humans and civilization and live in forested areas where they have cover.
It's true that there is little evidence to prove that bigfoots(bigfeet?), but some video evidence like the famous Patterson film from the 70s is very credible, and skeptics have a hard time coming up with explanations. I also relaize that no dead animal, as well as living of course, has been found, but it is possible that they live in environments where bodies would decompose very quickly, and for all we know they as a species are human-like enough to bury their dead. I think the enormous numbers of sightings and encounters across North America are just a bit too much to pass off, even though a good half may be confused bear encounters. Not to mention all the huge tracks that have been found so often these last few decades.
On the topic of Finding Bigfoot on Animal Planet and cryptozoologists as a whole, I actually think this show is rather interesting due to the fact that unlike other similar shows, there is a dedicated team that is actually consistently hunting for the same thing across the country, and again, unlike most shows like this, things actually happen on camera... These range from thermal images, noises like whistling and howls, and even rocks being thrown.
Basically, if you take the time to really search and go through evidence acumulated over the years, and maybe try to go out into the field yourself, you may find that there is more credibility to his whole thing than you would think.
Meh. Bigfoot is fake and so is any other mythical monster, the witnesses are either making stuff up or saw a big ape. It's like the Loch Ness Monster... a misidentification of common animals, as Wikipedia so nicely put it.
Starboard Driger said:
At the risk of sounding like a gullible idiot, I have to say that this kind of ignorance really gets on my nerves... It's not like all cryptids (Nessie, Bigfoot etc) have to be the same in that they're either all real or all fake. We're focusing on bigfoot here, which is definitely one of the more "proven" cryptids out there.
Meaty said:
I said "like" Nessie, it is a hoax or mistaken for another animal. I never said anything about them being "all real" or "all fake". Where was it even implied that I meant anything of the sort?
As an aside, the vast majority of cryptids are not real; witnesses often mistake them for a more common animal. That's not to say that all are fake, there very well could be an undiscovered species deep in the forest somewhere.
DNA said:
Well that's the thing, it kind of has to be its own species, because there are no known primates existing in North America aside from us.
Starboard Driger, you literally said "Bigfoot is fake and so is any other mythical monster", which I took to mean that you assumed every cryptid is entirely non-existant. I also meant that I didn't like when cryptids were compared to each other so much, because honestly bigfoot and the loch ness monster have so many differences. Bigfoot has way more sightings and way more hard evidence, so it's unfair to compare the two.
Starboard Driger said:
This.
I think part of the reason why Bigfoot is so hard to find or track down is because of how their breeding ground makes it so easy for them to camouflage with their surroundings. Sure you can use infrared technology to track them but it won't do you any good If they are running away from you.
It annoys me when people do hoaxes on Bigfoot for their own personal gain to make money off of it. They're probably like "Why do people believe in this crap when I can go around in an ape suit and make it harder for everyone else to believe that Bigfoot is real?", ya know?
And for why we haven't found much further evidence of Bigfoot I think Governments around the world are trying to keep it a secret from everyone. Just like how the U.S. Government has denied that Area 51 exists and have been trying to keep stuff about aliens and mythical artifacts away from the public.
It annoys me when people do hoaxes on Bigfoot for their own personal gain to make money off of it. They're probably like "Why do people believe in this crap when I can go around in an ape suit and make it harder for everyone else to believe that Bigfoot is real?", ya know?
And for why we haven't found much further evidence of Bigfoot I think Governments around the world are trying to keep it a secret from everyone. Just like how the U.S. Government has denied that Area 51 exists and have been trying to keep stuff about aliens and mythical artifacts away from the public.
Oh boy, CSJ started posting in a Bigfoot thread. Now the thread is going to center around him and his constant changing of subjects to try to give off the illusion that he was never wrong. Such a fun time.
It's a chain reaction. One guy originally dressed up in an ape suit and the rest of the world followed. It's not that difficult to comprehend.
Oh, so Bigfoot is suddenly a species now?Card Slinger J said:
Welcome to America, may I take your order?
It's a chain reaction. One guy originally dressed up in an ape suit and the rest of the world followed. It's not that difficult to comprehend.
...you can't be serious. Bigfoot is a (mythological) ANIMAL. It's not extraterrestrial, it's not 500 feet under the surface, it doesn't live on clouds, it doesn't reside in heaven or hell...it's on land (At least, that's what the sightings point to). In forests. Forests aren't that hard to go through (considering we destroy them all the time). Places like Loch Ness and Area 51 are. Area 51 is locked out from the general public and Loch Ness is a LAKE, and a pretty big one at that, where getting to the depths of it can cost a pretty hefty sum compared to a simple infrared scan of the forest. If Bigfoot existed, we would have found it already. It's as simple as that. Nothing government-related in the slightest, no conspiracies, NOTHING.
For you that is, I'm getting sick of you giving me a hard time like everyone else here
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lol, if you ever believe and read the bible it shall tell you... Bigfoot = Cane. The size was normal then, and they did age to be like 3 million. The hair was his punishment for killing his brother Able... That's my take, religion wise ...
In they eyes of scientists, religion is frowned upon, they want proof. They just don't wanna admit that telling people it never existed and it does was a lie, so they just hide it. Bigfoot could easily exist in Canada, Northern and Western Utah, (Rockies) Northern California, and also in Washington state. I've seen just about everything on bigfoot, and believe me he's real.
In they eyes of scientists, religion is frowned upon, they want proof. They just don't wanna admit that telling people it never existed and it does was a lie, so they just hide it. Bigfoot could easily exist in Canada, Northern and Western Utah, (Rockies) Northern California, and also in Washington state. I've seen just about everything on bigfoot, and believe me he's real.