Build A Better Format #1

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Y r u so afraid of n? And y r u obsessed with hand refresh supporters. Soon they wont be as relevant in the format meta.
 
I'm not afraid of N, but it is going to be played, and that basically makes Gastrodon just a waste of a bench space when they use it. And hand refresh is still very relevant. What other way are you going to get what you need?
 
spiritomb said:
Y r u so afraid of n? And y r u obsessed with hand refresh supporters. Soon they wont be as relevant in the format meta.

Ummm yea they are. There is a reason PONT and N are/was huge. And Juniper? Arguably best draw Supporter ever (please notify me if otherwise). If you are refering to Skyla, yes that is a very good card but remember only searching out 1 card can only get you so far if you don't have anything else to pair it with.
 
venasour x said:
Ummm yea they are. There is a reason PONT and N are/was huge. And Juniper? Arguably best draw Supporter ever (please notify me if otherwise). If you are refering to Skyla, yes that is a very good card but remember only searching out 1 card can only get you so far if you don't have anything else to pair it with.
Steven's Advice.
 
spiritomb said:
Gastrodon. {W} hp110
Ability : Continental turf war : once per turn when u play this Pokemon from ur hand search ur deck for 1 card. Search ur deck for 2 cards instead if u already had one gastrodon in play. Search for three instead if ur opponent has a gastrodon in play. Regardless shuffle ur deck afterwards. Then place the select card(s) in ur hand.

{W}{F}{C} mud slide : 50

Weakness {G} : resistance : - retreat : {C}{C}{C}{C}

I was trying to play it safe. Here's an update.
 
Yeah no. That's overpowered. Roserade already searches out 1 when it evolves and that should be the maximum, ever. 2-3 cards drawn by getting a stage 1 out is extremely good, 2-3 cards searched out with no restrictions at all is just way too strong, especially with devolution spray in the format-get any card you need+devolution spray, devolve one and evolve it again, and you've got infinite search loops unless they hit you with an N (and even then you'd only need to draw a Gastrodon to keep it going).
 
spiritomb said:
Y r u so afraid of n? And y r u obsessed with hand refresh supporters. Soon they wont be as relevant in the format meta.

N is going to be played every turn early game, and the turn that's not being played Juniper and PONT (til rotation) are bieng played, after rotation, evrey turn, if not, Juniper.the only time you don't want to play a hand refresh, is if you have the perfect hand that you can't use just yet (evolution line, something important you don't want to discard or deck) and even then, you need to pray they don't N or even Hugh, (when released).
 
spiritomb said:
And that's y I made my original restriction I made.

That's totally unjustified. You can't just say "Oh, the other one was restricted, here's the overpowered version even though I don't know it's overpowered," your idea gets attacked because it's overpowered and instantly just claim "y3h d4tz wi ei m4yd yt wit duh 0g l1nn1tayshun."

I can hardly read any of your posts.
 
^ Why not? Aren't we here to collaborate and "build a better format"?

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Why not:

Lapras-Water-HP100
Basic

Ability:
Once during your turn, you may search your deck for a supporter card and put it into your hand. Then, put 3 damage counters on Lapras.

[C][C]Move 3 damage counters from one of your pokemon to one of your opponent's pokemon.

Weakness: L
Resistance: N/A
Retreat: CC
 
Milky said:
That's totally unjustified. You can't just say "Oh, the other one was restricted, here's the overpowered version even though I don't know it's overpowered," your idea gets attacked because it's overpowered and instantly just claim "y3h d4tz wi ei m4yd yt wit duh 0g l1nn1tayshun."

I can hardly read any of your posts.

Paying attention to the context of what you said I was able to understand that jibberish you just wrote. It's not that hard.
Also that was my point. I intentionally put the fair text cause it was fair. By upgrading like I did I am now able to dictate what the rest of the community is looking for in a card and hopefully create a better card to you guys accordingly, even if to me it ends up being subpar.

Is that better English for you?
 
iisnumber12 said:
Why not:

Lapras-Water-HP100
Basic

Ability:
Once during your turn, you may search your deck for a supporter card and put it into your hand. Then, put 3 damage counters on Lapras.

[C][C]Move 3 damage counters from one of your pokemon to one of your opponent's pokemon.

Weakness: L
Resistance: N/A
Retreat: CC

It's HP should at least be 90 so it 3HKO's itself. But I still think this card would be broken particularly in Darkrai Hydregon because of the max potions. Not that it sees much play anymore, but the Truth could abuse it as well at the cost of Bench space. Just move the damage to an Outrager or Seeker it up off of an EX.



Stage 1 80 HP

Ability: Flip a coin. If heads, search your deck for a Basic or Evolution card, or a Trainer card, show them to your opponent, and put them into your hand.
 
An item card that says "reveal a supporter card from your hand. In that case search your deck for a copy of that card show it to your opponent and add it to your hand. Shuffle your deck afterwards."
 
iisnumber12 said:
That would be pointless...

This is becoming very hard since everyone is afraid of hand shuffling supporters. Also when is the next stage of this challenge going to start?
 
It doesn't matter since you can only use one Supporter per turn, and even if you wanted insurance, it would probably be N'd away anyway. I'd rather just run Random Reciever.

alexmf2 said:
You shouldn't need to use it more than twice a game.

Exactly. Why let them use it more than twice?
 
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