I thought about this but the downside would be you are super weak to special energy removal. I guess its not super popular so we could get away with all the special energy.
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Standard Buzzwole GX Rush (Anti-Evo Deck)
- Thread starter GymLdrJesse
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I think the item/supporter techs will be personal preference. We will have to wait and play the deck to see what it will run best with.
Side note- you calling Buzzwole "Buzzhole" is making me laugh. xD
Oops.... apologies. Revisions made.
Garbodor is also a stage 1, and I personally feel that the utility of free retreat isn't something to be overlooked with Buzzwole GX. I feel like the way to go about this deck is to have one Buzzwole up in the active Jet Punching away while you Max Elixir another on the bench. Once the benched one has 2 energy you switch them and Muliswitch the Strong energy back up the the active, potentially using Accerola to put your first Buzzwole back in your hand.
I find it curious that you mention the potential of Silvally's ability being shut off, whereas I don't see that to be an issue at all. You have a few major decks that play Garbotoxin, which is the only ability lock we have right now. In Espeon/ Garb Buzzwole should never see the light of day. You should be focused on Silvally and Silvally alone, as Silvally can one shot Espeon GX with Psychic Memory while also prepping the bench. In Drampa/ Garb Buzzwole GX is a huge threat to Drampa GX. With one Strong Energy, Choice Band, and Regirock EX on the bench Jet Punch OHKOs Drampa. From there you can play a very slow game and avoid using your items which picking away at the bench. I can see Golisopod/ Garb as being a threat to Buzzwole simply because it has the potential to OHKO Buzzwole GX before you start getting into the swing of things. It's made worse by the fact that Buzzwole can't one shot Wimpod for a single energy.
Just to restate, my initial comments regarding the OP's deck list was founded upon his deck having a Ninetales counter. So, Garbodor was the suggested counter to that designated Pokémon. Further, in my initial deck list posted, I chose to again combo Buzzwole GX with Garbodor for my early testing. I like Garbodor primarily for my area's particular metagame.
I also stated later in this Thread that should one want to combo Buzzwole GX with Silvally GX, the OP's deck list (at that time), as well as mine, would both need to be overhauled specifically for that combo; and, no doubt, there would not be a need for the Garbodor line at all.
Lastly, given most of the "top" decks run evolution Pokémon, should Espeon EX and/or Necrozma GX be a staple in the deck (whichever Buzzwole GX variant one runs)?
Whoever told you that Buzzwole isn't good is bad. Landorus-EX was BDIF in the BCR-on format, until Archiestoise came around, and that matchup was still decent. Buzzwole has more HP, and better second attack, and a GX attack. The only negative thing about it is its psychic weakness, but what Psychic type is going to be doing 100 damage to this? Garb has nothing on a Pokemon that swings for 60+ for a single Energy since you don't need to dig to set up, Espeon can't OHKO you unless they have a Choice Band, and although that probably WILL be the case, you can simply not bench Buzzwole, and if you start it, then you just do your thing until you switch, or it dies. I'm thinking of how to run this deck myself, but I haven't came up with a concept yet. I will probably just play a similar variant to Landorus/ Garb that was popular when FUF was first printed. Although, we don't currently have a strong, one-prize attacker like Hawlucha
. I highly doubt Silvally will be "the partner" that Buzzwole has the best synergy with, but I also think the same of Carbink. I suppose Trashalanche will be an OK one-prizer, since the deck already plays Garbotoxin, but IDK. Also, don't play psychic, play 4 Rainbow, and add a Shining Jirachi. I think it's better than Espeon-EX in here because you'd rather be doing damage the whole game, and with all of your 2-prize attackers(other than Garb), yielding 1 prize is a little bonus. Also being a Brigette target helps, especially if you want your opponent to know you have it. This means that they will have to play perfectly with no room for misplays, which means misplays will come more often when you're attacking them, since if they don't draw exactly what they need and the pressure gets to them, you can do exactly what they were trying to avoid- you taking prizes.
Yeah we will just have to wait and see what works better with Buzzwole.Whoever told you that Buzzwole isn't good is bad. Landorus-EX was BDIF in the BCR-on format, until Archiestoise came around, and that matchup was still decent. Buzzwole has more HP, and better second attack, and a GX attack. The only negative thing about it is its psychic weakness, but what Psychic type is going to be doing 100 damage to this? Garb has nothing on a Pokemon that swings for 60+ for a single Energy since you don't need to dig to set up, Espeon can't OHKO you unless they have a Choice Band, and although that probably WILL be the case, you can simply not bench Buzzwole, and if you start it, then you just do your thing until you switch, or it dies. I'm thinking of how to run this deck myself, but I haven't came up with a concept yet. I will probably just play a similar variant to Landorus/ Garb that was popular when FUF was first printed. Although, we don't currently have a strong, one-prize attacker like Hawlucha
Just noting that's it not as though I don't see Garb as a pokemon with merits in a Buzzwole deck, though I agree with others who've pointed out that Rainbow is the way to go. One of the biggest issues I have personally with that is just the sheer amount of of energy you're now playing. You could go a 4/4/4 like Golisopod, but 2/3rds of your energy is special energy.
I agree that Espeon EX/ Necrozma GX have a ton of potential in this current meta but if I'm going to go for sniping/ devolution I'd probably rather play Ninetales GX. What Buzzwole does well isn't just sniping and setting up for a massive board wipe. He punches holes into these beefy stage 2 decks and challenges you to burn Max Potions and Acerola on 30 damage because that's all he needs to swoop in later for a big knockout on most of the meta. And maybe it's just personal preference but I'd much rather be taking those two prize trades than investing a ton into bruising the board in the hopes of a game winning Espeon EX attack.
Whatever the case is I really want to test this Buzzwole idea out. I think he's one of the gems of this set.
Back then, I ran a "Big Basics with Garbodor" deck featuring Landorus EX and made it to the T4 in 2 different State tournaments running that deck - in which I had to beat Blastoise-Keldeo (in the T8). The deck then, and hopefully Buzzwole GX now will be great too.
Agreed.
What does everyone think about Crabominable as Buzzwole's partner? You could run brooklet hills along with acerola and max potion to soften up pokemon with Buzzwole and go for KOs with the crab.
It was really good before those things though. It just got way better after Korrina and Fighting Stadium (and bats... LandoBats was my favorite deck)
Yeah, it definitely was, but will it be able to keep up without those luxuries when we have 210+ HP GXes?
To be fair on of the reason Lando wouldn't be able to keep up is that to do any big OHKO damage you need to get rid of all of your energies. Buzzwole doesn't have that problem, and it's other "problem" of only being able to attack every other turn is easily patched with Silvally GX.
I don't think it's been considered yet, but yes, this could be one of the better partners for Buzzwole. However, Zygarde has the same weakness, and Lycanroc requires more Energy to attack. I guess it wouldn't be too much trouble to play 2-3 DCE, since you could also attack with Lele, but I don't know. I'm tired as of posting this, so I don't have any ideas for now.
For a stadium mabye brooklet hill? But paralell city does seem like a better option
Have you considered rainbow energy instead of phycic
My suggestion:
If you are going to pair Buzzwole with Zygarde, I would recommend a thinner garb line (probably 2-2 with only garbodoxin). Also, po town is definitely a better stadium (preferably 4).
Some other possible changes:
3-4 fury belt
no rainbow, use fighting energy instead
3-4 acerola
espeon ex, for sure
My list for the Zygarde version:
****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******
##Pokémon - 13
* 3 Buzzwole-GX CIN 104
* 2 Zygarde-EX FCO 54
* 1 Espeon-EX BKP 117
* 3 Tapu Lele-GX GRI 137
* 2 Trubbish BKP 56
* 2 Garbodor BKP 57
##Trainer Cards - 36
* 4 Professor Sycamore STS 114
* 4 Fighting Fury Belt BKP 99
* 1 Rescue Stretcher BUS 165
* 3 Acerola BUS 142
* 3 N FCO 105
* 1 Lillie SUM 147
* 4 Po Town BUS 121
* 1 Pokémon Fan Club FLF 106
* 4 Ultra Ball SUM 161
* 4 Float Stone BKT 137
* 4 Guzma BUS 143
* 1 Field Blower GRI 163
* 2 Enhanced Hammer GRI 162
##Energy - 11
* 4 Strong Energy FCO 115
* 7 Fighting Energy GRI 169
Total Cards - 60
****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******
I hope this would help.
If you are going to pair Buzzwole with Zygarde, I would recommend a thinner garb line (probably 2-2 with only garbodoxin). Also, po town is definitely a better stadium (preferably 4).
Some other possible changes:
3-4 fury belt
no rainbow, use fighting energy instead
3-4 acerola
espeon ex, for sure
My list for the Zygarde version:
****** Pokémon Trading Card Game Deck List ******
##Pokémon - 13
* 3 Buzzwole-GX CIN 104
* 2 Zygarde-EX FCO 54
* 1 Espeon-EX BKP 117
* 3 Tapu Lele-GX GRI 137
* 2 Trubbish BKP 56
* 2 Garbodor BKP 57
##Trainer Cards - 36
* 4 Professor Sycamore STS 114
* 4 Fighting Fury Belt BKP 99
* 1 Rescue Stretcher BUS 165
* 3 Acerola BUS 142
* 3 N FCO 105
* 1 Lillie SUM 147
* 4 Po Town BUS 121
* 1 Pokémon Fan Club FLF 106
* 4 Ultra Ball SUM 161
* 4 Float Stone BKT 137
* 4 Guzma BUS 143
* 1 Field Blower GRI 163
* 2 Enhanced Hammer GRI 162
##Energy - 11
* 4 Strong Energy FCO 115
* 7 Fighting Energy GRI 169
Total Cards - 60
****** Deck List Generated by the Pokémon TCG Online www.pokemon.com/TCGO ******
I hope this would help.
I have been testing Po Town and it seems like the best bet at the moment with all the stage 2 decks. It even helps put free 30 dmg on stage 1 decks.