Chandyplume consistency
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I've been playing ChandyPlume for a bit now, and the best way to get out evolutions quickly in general tends to be with Rare Candy after a Pokémon Communication. What are your trainer lines? Not using enough consistency supporters such as Sage's Training or PONT is a problem. If you can afford it, Tropical Beach is also good.
Matchups actually depend a lot on Lampents's Luring Light. Using Luring Light to bring up Eeletrik will give you at least one turn to spread, because unless they use DCE (don't worry nobody does) there is no way to retreat under trainer lock. Then you can proceed to knockout Tynamos to prevent energy acceleration (also go for the free retreat one first- less HP, and free retreat), and then their Eeletrik, and then just keep spreading. Take advantage of Jirachi too.. get a Magnezone at 80, and then retreat and make Magnezone go back to their hand, leaving Magneton to be knocked out.
Matchups actually depend a lot on Lampents's Luring Light. Using Luring Light to bring up Eeletrik will give you at least one turn to spread, because unless they use DCE (don't worry nobody does) there is no way to retreat under trainer lock. Then you can proceed to knockout Tynamos to prevent energy acceleration (also go for the free retreat one first- less HP, and free retreat), and then their Eeletrik, and then just keep spreading. Take advantage of Jirachi too.. get a Magnezone at 80, and then retreat and make Magnezone go back to their hand, leaving Magneton to be knocked out.
Just be aware that they can retreat Eelektrik with a Shaymin tech. The Magnezone Eels match up should be ok, just try to set up Vileplume ASAP. As for getting a consistent T2 Vileplume, just try play heavy lines of Cheren and Sage's Training, I'm assuming you are already playing max out Rare Candy, some Communication, and that you at least aware of Tropical Beach. If you are worrying about speed decks such as 6 Corners and ZPST, a Blissey Prime tech should very useful, since neither of those decks can score the OHKO on your Chandelure.
How many EelZones have you seen use Shaymin?
Also, Blissey Prime should already be played.
4x Pokémon Collector
4x Sage's Training
3-4x Twins
3x N
3-4x Pokémon Communication
4x Rare Candy
1x Tropical Beach
1x PONT/Cheren
That is a good T/S/S line for setting up quickly.
You can make any edits that you want to. If you can, use 3 Tropical Beach.
Also, Blissey Prime should already be played.
4x Pokémon Collector
4x Sage's Training
3-4x Twins
3x N
3-4x Pokémon Communication
4x Rare Candy
1x Tropical Beach
1x PONT/Cheren
That is a good T/S/S line for setting up quickly.
You can make any edits that you want to. If you can, use 3 Tropical Beach.
Vulpix Yolk said:
The bigger problem is that they kill all my Oddishes.
Glaceon said:
I'm proxying for now anyway, so I could use 10 Tropical Beaches if it were legal
I'm using Blissey Prime already, so I have 2 Seeker in deck. Prob is they're rather useless except for scooping Blissey.
Need Flower Shop Lady?
petertclo said:
I have made Oddish mistakes before. You should have to have a bench of 2 Litwick (or one active), 1-2 Doduo and 2 Oddish after a Playground, Call for Family or Collector (though it is hard, 2 Litwick and 2 Oddish are mandatory). This way if they ko one Oddish, you can evolve the other. If you bench single Oddishes, they will be Catcher-ko'd. Never bench single Oddishes. To ensure you have the Vileplume you need a really good trainer line, and that's just about it.
Instead of Flower Shop Lady, I prefer Rescue Energy. Since you use Blissey, once you can no longer use Blissey, just attach a Rescue. If you use Rescue Energy, be sure to be setting up Lampents, and benching Litwicks early on.
Instead of Flower Shop Lady, I prefer Rescue Energy. Since you use Blissey, once you can no longer use Blissey, just attach a Rescue. If you use Rescue Energy, be sure to be setting up Lampents, and benching Litwicks early on.
Glaceon said:
I've found Seeker to actually work quite well in this kind of a situation. When no longer able to use Blissey since you evolved it, Seeker picks it up and assuming you bench Chansey that turn, you have another Blissey up for next turn. Seeker also helps to free up your bench when you have a Cleffa/Pichu/Tyrogue on your bench or that extra Oddish you didn't evolve.
^Which is why you use Rescue Energy and Blissey.
Honestly, a 3-1-2 Vileplume with 3 Candy, 3 PETM, and 3-4 Comm works just fine. If you're having trouble with Oddish being sniped, then just play 2-3 down T1 with Playground (or use Promo Litwick's Call for Family to grab an extra one combined with Collector).
Honestly, a 3-1-2 Vileplume with 3 Candy, 3 PETM, and 3-4 Comm works just fine. If you're having trouble with Oddish being sniped, then just play 2-3 down T1 with Playground (or use Promo Litwick's Call for Family to grab an extra one combined with Collector).
Glaceon already mentioned it but if you're not playing two oddishs down at a time, you're going just to get catchered and ko'd and the lock will never get up. Its really the most important thing. You should also be running 4 twins, they're the best at getting your evolutions out. I do prefer Cheren over Sage's but its really a matter of preference. I just feel I burn too many resources with Sage's.
^Yeah, I use Cheren over Sage's. I might use Sage's in the future, but the cards I draw from Sage's are so horrid that I've put it down for a while. I prefer the raw draw power, but that's just me. I only run 3 Twins, but everybody is different. Space gets really tight, so you have to risk cutting stuff down to fit other things.
^If I didn't have any Tropical Beach (which I don't), I would go for a maxed out Cheren and Sage's Training line (or just hope your opponents are playing them XP). Unfortunately, this deck does not tend to run as well without Tropical Beach, so I recommend you try to trade around for it. A huge draw Supporter line works, but because Chandelure does not attack very often, Tropical Beach is close to a necessity.
PETM is a godsend in the deck. helps to speed it up like no other. guarantee its great
Really? One of my friends who runs ChandyPlume doesn't even run PETM in his version. Pokemon Communication, Professor Juniper, and Tropical Beach are usually better alternatives.