Pikachew, he means that Seniors just don't matter. As a whole (statistically), Masters > Seniors. There are more good Masters than there are good seniors. Whether or not top masters and top seniors are better than or equal to eachother... I will not say as they go back and forth gameplay wise. He is not talking about good seniors or good masters like you and me... he is talking about the top ones. I can only name a few great seniors... but I can spam this page with a list of great masters. The point is that more often than not, masters make trends, seniors do not. Seniors can create good decks that become archetypes... but have they before? Maybe once... that is a master's job more often than not. The more you play, the more you'll see that.
Claydol coming back?
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First of all, don't put words in my mouth. It's very wrong to assume something. I never once said that Seniors don't count. But they don't count as much when Masters is the foundation of the PTCG. It's just a fact, you can't argue with that. There are more older people. Comparing skill wise isn't really what I was going for too. I know a lot of Seniors that are good and can go toe to toe with Masters (but honestly, when they're in Seniors, they're never going to be playing a Tournament game with them until the Senior has aged up into Masters anyway. 
). By that point, things can change.
dmaster out.
). By that point, things can change.dmaster out.
NO!! They won't they have been trying to get it back to how it was back in Base Set days and reprinting Claydol will screw that all up, also you guys need to get over it, when Pigeot came everyone thought NOTHING would replace it, Claydol did, and now something is going to replace Claydol.
Something already has. It's called Uxie and Ninetales. *runs
I doubt a claydol reprint is coming. They've got Uxie for the rest of the year, and Ninetales if probably good for another two. If they repring claydol, there will be a lot more complains then there will be praise, so I doubt that they'd ever do it.
I doubt a claydol reprint is coming. They've got Uxie for the rest of the year, and Ninetales if probably good for another two. If they repring claydol, there will be a lot more complains then there will be praise, so I doubt that they'd ever do it.
A director from Pokemon Nation told me that No Claydol is gone and is not coming back. But, he would not tell me if Lost World is coming.
A stage two is hard to cram into a deck, plus its power is much worse than Claydol just because you don't get the two card drop. Plus it has a three retreat cost, so yeh... Claydol was replaced by PONT, seriously it doesn't matter if Claydol is gone, the format is just as fast, get over your losses.
You hit the nail on the head of why Magnezone Prime is nowhere near as practical as Claydol ever was (or ever will be). Just because it has a Claydol-esque draw power does not make it good, everyone. Vileplume is actually usable because it has a power that can hinder its opponent much more than it could ever hinder its user, whereas what will happen if a Maggy Prime is Bright Looked or Reversaled out? The same thing that happens when Regice is brought up - you either hope for a Warp or just let it die.
The Masters division as a whole has more than twice the amount of members as Juniors and Seniors combined. Strong meta decks of all kinds can thrive in most Masters areas, and as a result the Masters is more representative of what decks truly perform well - because Masters don't deal with just a few particular threats like Juniors and Seniors do; they have to deal with EVERYTHING imaginable. It is definitely not easy to play well in Masters.
Most people run 2 Uxie LA's or a 2-1 Uxie Lv. X line in place of Claydol cause it's a Basic and a Lv. X that doesn't evolve and not a Stage 2 like Magnezone Prime.
I hope Claydol gets reprinted, it would help let some stage two's consitacy and help change the metagame. I don't think it will though. I would much rather see a Double Rainbow [not happing], Dusknoir DP, or a Gardevoir SW. Simply Because the Double rainbow would do the same as Claydol in a diffrent way; Dusknoir can assist in the VileGar and Gyrados games [Warp, dark hand]. Gardevoir wouldn't be as amazing since without Claydol its losses some usefullness, and with out moonligh and the Lv.X it cant retreat to Spirittomb and use all it's powers with no powerspray.
Anyways, I think the reprint of any of these cards is going to be unlikely, even though they will all add\help the metagame.
Anyways, I think the reprint of any of these cards is going to be unlikely, even though they will all add\help the metagame.
What part of we don't need Claydol GE back in the format do you not understand? If anything it will help speed SP decks like it did last format and possibly help LostGar which is gaining popularity with the pressumed Stadium card to be released in Call of Legends.
Actually, I never saw a Claydol in any SP deck last format, with only 1 or 2 rare exceptions. My meta is very SP-heavy as well so it's not just some isolated incident.
This. I can't afford an Uxie X so I just run 2 Uxie in all of my decks, and it ends up working very well, so much so that I rarely need to use Uxie more than once, and only on the starting turns. Once I get rolling with my setup I just let all my other Pokemon handle it.
^Yuss, Pidgeot FRLG. What a card.
Magnezone is not a viable replacement. I've tried it in two decks the exact same except for a Claydol/Magnezone switch, and Magnezone is so much worse.
Magnezone is not a viable replacement. I've tried it in two decks the exact same except for a Claydol/Magnezone switch, and Magnezone is so much worse.
I don't see why you guys(not all) flatter yourself with the idea that Claydol is coming back. Claydol had it's time, but it is rotated, gone, dead now. Claydol wont be reprinted. I am not saying having Claydol around wouldn't be nice, but Claydol, as I already said, HAD its time. Let Claydol rest in peace already!
-Good bye Claydol, I only knew you for a short time, but I will miss you.
-Good bye Claydol, I only knew you for a short time, but I will miss you.
I rember 3 years ago when after the loss of Gardevoir I decided to start playing only rougue decks. Mainly becuse I had no experance with any other deck. I used Scizor and other fast stage ones with out claydol to set up faster and avoid palkia lock. I won a cites and topped at states, but nothing can compeat with Claydol. I realy don't feel the as much because I played Scizor and Gardy varients for the past three years. I highly doubt that Claydol, [or any realy popular pokemon for that matter] will get reprinted; and I realy don't care. In fact, it the loss of great cards that helps this game format keep on moveing along. I play because I love the stratagy, and as far as startagy goes, a format of 10+ good decks goes a lot better than 3-5 amazing decks.
So basiccly I think the loss of Claydol and other good cards is healthy for the format.
So basiccly I think the loss of Claydol and other good cards is healthy for the format.
*Rogue. I don't understand why people insist on spelling it 'rouge.'
I agree with LuxTwo's last comment completely. It about sums up my thoughts about Claydol.
I agree with LuxTwo's last comment completely. It about sums up my thoughts about Claydol.