XY Could genetics be the general theme for X and Y?

[CyberCat5555]

I highly doubt it, but its possible. I mean, most people were probably expecting Pokemon Grey or a Ruby/Sapphire remake. It may just be a coincidence, but I think Nintendo may have just become unimaginative

Unimaginative? You mean the opposite. Many people did expect a RS remake and Grey/Gray version, but instead of the same game with improved graphics and Kyurem instead of Reshiram/Zekrom, we instead got a direct sequel, something that has never happened before. And it was awesome. Also, genetics/DNA is the obvious theme, I mean, just look that the Japanese logos-

Also, since genetics them is the theme, I think that the DNA splicer (or at least a newer, modern, and improved version) from B2W2 will reappear, along with the Berserk Gene from Gen II as well, to go along with the theme. Maybe the DNA splicer and the berserk Gene (Mewtwo held it) will have something to do with Mewtant?

 

[Hackzo23]

Of course. First off, Mewtwo and Mewtant (as I call it) are important parts in the movie about Genesect, another modified Pokemon. The Japanese logos even have a DNA strand in them and there is a TCG set coming up that features Deoxys, another DNA-inspired Pokemon. Eevee's new evolution could be artificially induced, as it is said that Eevee's genetic code is strange and irregular. Xerneas has double helixes in its antlers and Yveltal has diamonds (representing the gaps in DNA) on its wings and back. Yvel also has visible veins or something in its body. Genetic modification also seems fitting in a France/Europe-inspired region.

I've never heard someone call it "Mewtant" before.

I like it! I might use it from now on until we get an official name for the Pokemon!

I've tried to explain what you said above to a lot of people, but some people just want to believe solely in the "axis" theme, where the games are based on the X, Y, and Z axises on a 3-dimensional plane, when in reality, there are already clear signs that Pokemon X and Pokemon Y will be themed around genetics and DNA.

thats where mewtwo's name comes from, mutant. its just a slang of the word. mewtwo, mutant. it was only after that did they create mew, in case some people say, no, it comes from it being the 2nd mew, it not. so they actually created mewtwo before mew, and anyone whos played the original red and blue know that. and theres that one game designer who said he designed mew and put it in the game 2 weeks before finishing.

 

[Pokequaza]

Unimaginative? You mean the opposite. Many people did expect a RS remake and Grey/Gray version, but instead of the same game with improved graphics and Kyurem instead of Reshiram/Zekrom, we instead got a direct sequel, something that has never happened before. And it was awesome. Also, genetics/DNA is the obvious theme, I mean, just look that the Japanese logos-

Ruby and Sapphire are still compatible with the newest Pokémon games, there has never been any need for a remake. I still do not get why people expect remakes of those games..

thats where mewtwo's name comes from, mutant. its just a slang of the word. mewtwo, mutant. it was only after that did they create mew, in case some people say, no, it comes from it being the 2nd mew, it not. so they actually created mewtwo before mew, and anyone whos played the original red and blue know that. and theres that one game designer who said he designed mew and put it in the game 2 weeks before finishing.

Mew has always been a part of the game series, even though its actual presence in the game was a surprise for many people. The concept existed long before that. The game itself makes a lot references to Mew throughout the story. GameFreak knew about Mew, it was not an unknown Pokémon. Although some developers did not know that it was actually coded into the final product, Mew, as a Pokémon, was definitely not a mystery, neither is the origin of the name of its clone Mewtwo; Mew 2.

 

[DorianBlack]

Unimaginative? You mean the opposite. Many people did expect a RS remake and Grey/Gray version, but instead of the same game with improved graphics and Kyurem instead of Reshiram/Zekrom, we instead got a direct sequel, something that has never happened before. And it was awesome. Also, genetics/DNA is the obvious theme, I mean, just look that the Japanese logos-

Ruby and Sapphire are still compatible with the newest Pokémon games, there has never been any need for a remake. I still do not get why people expect remakes of those games.

Compatability ddn't seem to be the point, though - if it was, then they wouldn't have gone to the trouble of adding in new stuff like the Sevii Islands and the Pokéthlon and all the other fun new-and-improved stuff we got out of the remakes. The point of the remakes was probably more to redo the old, unbalanced, terrible-looking games to make them more enjoyable, because older fans would appreciate it, and (more importantly) because younger fans who don't want to play old games or don't have access to older systems will buy them in droves. I expect the remakes because a lot of fans would enjoy playing them, and because they would make a ton of money. This same debate with the same reasoning used by both sides happened before and during Gen IV over whether they would make GSC remakes, and just look what happened there.

And even if compatibility was the point, it's still kind of a stretch to call Gen III games compatible with Gen V - technically they aren't, because you can't get Pokémon from one to the other without passing through Gen IV first. And that also hinges on the assumption that Game Freak will maintain this chain of backwards-compatibility, when they could very well decide to break it and start from a clean slate like they did with Gen III. (I think I'd prefer that, to be honest. It'd be good incentive for them to put more varied Pokémon into the Gen VI games, including past legendaries.)

And just so I'm not too off-topic: clearly there is some kind of genetic theme going on with the games, but no no generation since III has ever come on too strong with its central ideas, so it's hard to guess if the whole games will revolve around the idea, or just the main legendaries, or somewhere in between. Like everything else about Gen VI, they're being cagey enough that we just have to wait and see.

[Edited some to tone it down a bit. : P]

 

[kbak12]

Fusion Pokemon? No doubt will appear from Nintendo. Gen. II absolutely none to do with Genetics (can only think of pre-evolutions). My opinions, Gen. II is the worst, however, the game was young, still bad sequel, as a generation for Pokemon.

 

[Seismitoad537]

I have a feeling it might! Has any one noticed that X and Y is like the X and Y chromosomes needed to reproduce....which is genetics.

 

[AdamLambert]

It's clear that it will be based on genetics. My question is in what way. I think the (3rd) version will be how black and white were. They will be XX and XY. Or maybe Pokémon will have a special Z chromosome which separates them from humans.

 

[Chocolate Death]

this discovery i made may help...

 

[Luna_Cat16]

Huh...

So perhaps it's focused on "discovering" Pokemon in a whole new way? I thought that the genetics theme would have something to do with the villains and their plot with the legendaries, but this is kind of putting it in a new light.

 

[Chocolate Death]

maybe there's the villains who try to use Yveltal and the good guys who try to use Xerneas, and in Y you get to have Xerneas help you defeat Yveltal, which you could then catch, and in X you could just have Xerneas?

oh, and i noticed something with the pokedex

the compare screen looks like it might be comparing pokemon and different form(e)s/appearances of the pokemon

 

[Luna_Cat16]

Or it could have something to do with the goal of the professor this generation. We all know how the professors want you to catch Pokemon so their data can be recorded, but maybe that will be more of a focus this time?

I honestly think it might just be like "evil team wants X/Y legend so you need to go stop them but it's too late they try to get legend but now it's angry and could like probably destroy the world or something so now you need to catch and calm it". At least I hope it's like that. Nice and simple, and maybe with a genetic-themed twist like these guys are a scientist group but ~*~evil~*~.

It's about time! That'll be really fun to play with.

 

[Chocolate Death]

i like that thing with the professor. it actually does make me think of the pokedex screenshot they showed with Chespin in Compare mode.

EDIT: i realized something about the theme...
the starters can be found almost anywhere around the world (hedgehog, fox, frog)
Sylveon has it's japanese name like a nymph, a greek mythical creature
Pancham is a Giant Panda from China
Fletchling is a Japanese Robin
Helioptile is a frilled lizard from Australia and new guinea
Gogoat seems to be based off of a mountain goat, which is only found in North America
Xerneas is named after a horned Celtic god
Yveltal is named after a Quetzal or possiblt the Quetzalcoatl, which are both from South America

 

[Pokequaza]

Gogoat seems to be based off of a mountain goat, which is only found in North America

With those horns it looks more like an Ibex, a species present in southern Europe.

 

[Chocolate Death]

either way, my point is that the theme might be geographical locations

 

[Pokequaza]

either way, my point is that the theme might be geographical locations

Pokémon have always been inspired by creatures, objects and myths around the world. If that is true, then every generation is themed after ''geographical locations''.

 

[Chocolate Death]

either way, my point is that the theme might be geographical locations

Pokémon have always been inspired by creatures, objects and myths around the world. If that is true, then every generation is themed after ''geographical locations''.

you don't understand what i'm saying
so far, they've only shown us pokemon that appear in only one spot of the world
the all previous gens had pokemon that can appear all over the world, but had a theme

Gen 1- Genetics and Creation (you got robots, clones, evolution, etc.)
Gen 2- Myths and Folklore (phoenix's ashes can revive anything, etc)
Gen 3- Nature (each pokemon represents it's type and the environment it would live in)
Gen 4- Legends (you got gods, demons, giant turtles with a world on their back, etc.)
Gen 5- Opposites (you have Knights Vs Ninjas, Black vs White, Fire vs Electricity, the universe vs a tiny cell, even america vs terrorists!,etc)

 

[Pokequaza]

Pokémon have always been inspired by creatures, objects and myths around the world. If that is true, then every generation is themed after ''geographical locations''.

you don't understand what i'm saying
so far, they've only shown us pokemon that appear in only one spot of the world
the all previous gens had pokemon that can appear all over the world, but had a theme

Gen 1- Genetics and Creation (you got robots, clones, evolution, etc.)
Gen 2- Myths and Folklore (phoenix's ashes can revive anything, etc)
Gen 3- Nature (each pokemon represents it's type and the environment it would live in)
Gen 4- Legends (you got gods, demons, giant turtles with a world on their back, etc.)
Gen 5- Opposites (you have Knights Vs Ninjas, Black vs White, Fire vs Electricity, the universe vs a tiny cell, even america vs terrorists!,etc)

You do not understand what you are saying. Most Pokémon represent their type and the environment they live in, mechanical Pokémon have been in every generation, as well as mythology, and folklore. The ''themes'' you gave for each generation apply only to a handful of Pokémon, they also apply to a handful of Pokémon every generation.

Out of all the new Pokémon, Pancham is the only one that is bound to one country; China, which is a huge country to begin with. Helioptile also shares traits with the spotted salamander, which is found in Europe.

 

[Chocolate Death]

you don't understand what i'm saying
so far, they've only shown us pokemon that appear in only one spot of the world
the all previous gens had pokemon that can appear all over the world, but had a theme

Gen 1- Genetics and Creation (you got robots, clones, evolution, etc.)
Gen 2- Myths and Folklore (phoenix's ashes can revive anything, etc)
Gen 3- Nature (each pokemon represents it's type and the environment it would live in)
Gen 4- Legends (you got gods, demons, giant turtles with a world on their back, etc.)
Gen 5- Opposites (you have Knights Vs Ninjas, Black vs White, Fire vs Electricity, the universe vs a tiny cell, even america vs terrorists!,etc)

You do not understand what you are saying. Most Pokémon represent their type and the environment they live in, mechanical Pokémon have been in every generation, as well as mythology, and folklore. The ''themes'' you gave for each generation apply only to a handful of Pokémon, they also apply to a handful of Pokémon every generation.

Out of all the new Pokémon, Pancham is the only one that is bound to one country; China, which is a huge country to begin with. Helioptile also shares traits with the spotted salamander, which is found in Europe.

Kanto thematic motif
Johto thematic motif
Hoenn thematic motif
Sinnoh thematic motif
Unova thematic motif

 

[Pokequaza]

You do not understand what you are saying. Most Pokémon represent their type and the environment they live in, mechanical Pokémon have been in every generation, as well as mythology, and folklore. The ''themes'' you gave for each generation apply only to a handful of Pokémon, they also apply to a handful of Pokémon every generation.

Out of all the new Pokémon, Pancham is the only one that is bound to one country; China, which is a huge country to begin with. Helioptile also shares traits with the spotted salamander, which is found in Europe.

Kanto thematic motif
Johto thematic motif
Hoenn thematic motif
Sinnoh thematic motif
Unova thematic motif

Great! So, who made that up? Bulbapedia is not a source for when it comes to these things, after all, it is just random people adding more content to it. I gave you a couple of reasons why that what you said is not true, yet all you can do is pretend Bulbapedia is the ultimate truth. If you want to make an argument, make one yourself.

 

[CyberCat5555]

Another thing to back up the genetics theory-look at the object on the male character's wrist

A DNA strand in a rainbowy orb? What could it be? Look, even the light grey detail vaguely resembles a DNA strand. I think it will have something to do with Xerneas/Yveltal/Mewtwo. Possibly let them change into new forms (if Xern and Yvel have forms, I bet they will, as GF have been very form-happy recently)