Please lay off flaming... although I agree that the argument was baseless, still, no flaming. =P
Debate! Wii vs. PS3 vs. 360
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Wii
1. Pokemon games
2. Nintendo rox
3. Sounds attractive
4. Controller, nice? hehehe
If I were given money to buy one of the three, Ill buy Wii.
1. Pokemon games
2. Nintendo rox
3. Sounds attractive
4. Controller, nice? hehehe
If I were given money to buy one of the three, Ill buy Wii.
Keep in mind that Sony is losing a LOT of development support with their new console. Yes, some big hitters are sticking around, but most of it is first-party (meaning Sony owns the companies). Third party developers are also realizing the development costs and are pulling out, often knocking on Nintendo's door. We aren't the only ones complaining about the price...
In any case, it's hard to determine which WILL be the best before the system's even out. I mean, both the Wii and the PS3 could flop big time. So honestly, why are we bickering?
In any case, it's hard to determine which WILL be the best before the system's even out. I mean, both the Wii and the PS3 could flop big time. So honestly, why are we bickering?
Hiya,
So we don't waste money on something that you and others thinks is pointless. PS3 will definitely flop to me...There's no really new way in gameplay experience, just the same, old boring ps2 with a little upgrade. Also, the price of the console, even the games will drive people away.
vya.
So we don't waste money on something that you and others thinks is pointless. PS3 will definitely flop to me...There's no really new way in gameplay experience, just the same, old boring ps2 with a little upgrade. Also, the price of the console, even the games will drive people away.
vya.
Seen PS3's roster, Kaito? A
360- B
Wii- C
Higher price, better games. Is that how it will be?
360- B
Wii- C
Higher price, better games. Is that how it will be?
Roster of what? PS3 has ~15 launch games according to various sources. That is hardly something to be excited about, especially when half of them are revamps.The Nameless Penguin Master said:
Kaito is right you know. The PS3 is simply a PS2 with upgrades, as the 360 is of an Xbox. There is little to no new gameplay experience (this isnt games), same old controller with tilt function.
There hasnt been anything like the Wii... Ever. (unless you wanta include the Powerglove [I think] about 15 years ago). New games, new experiences, new way to play. Old games which are played will be different since it's a whole NEW way to play it. Cant say the same thing about the other consoles, especially the prices of them. You're not gonna see a kid forking out $600US for a PS3 + ~$200 more for games and an extra controller... Not to mention that the ratio of HD to SD tvs is just plain funny. If you dont have a HDTV then the Wii will have graphics only a little subpar to the PS3 and 360. Those 2 consoles ONLY shine when they're on HDTVs and the majority of tv's in this modern age are SD tv's.
And who gives a crap if it's anything new. That alone does not make anything better at all. Hmm, those 15 launch games... Most aren't even that great. Wait for the actually GOOD games to come out. There are tons that will in 07-08. Who cares if they SHINE. It has the best games! Nintendo... Impressive roster? No. Cool idea? Yes. Who Cares if it's so innovative? It has to be BEST overall. Price does not determine anything either.
Hiya,
I'm sorry, but your points are really going off the track here...
EVERYBODY gives a crap about something new. And sorry I have to say this, Ps3 games is in no way better than the Wii. Like I said before, people will rather pay a cheaper new gaming experience than a buffed up Ps2. And as Abhorsen said, no kids, and even parents unless they are filthy rich will spend 600 on a game console. And EVERYBODY cares if it's innovative. The wii is innovative. Ps3 is well...crap.
Rosters is the one that does not determine anything.
that's all,
cya.
I'm sorry, but your points are really going off the track here...
EVERYBODY gives a crap about something new. And sorry I have to say this, Ps3 games is in no way better than the Wii. Like I said before, people will rather pay a cheaper new gaming experience than a buffed up Ps2. And as Abhorsen said, no kids, and even parents unless they are filthy rich will spend 600 on a game console. And EVERYBODY cares if it's innovative. The wii is innovative. Ps3 is well...crap.
Rosters is the one that does not determine anything.
that's all,
cya.
Penguin stop stirring everything up with your Sony fanboy attitude, it's becoming highly annoying.The Nameless Penguin Master said:
Nintendo did have an impressive roster of games which were presented at E3, that's why the waiting lines to try those games and play with the motion-sensing Wii-mote were 4-5 hours long. PS3 lines were 30mins long... everyone must have been dying to see the PS3.
NOONE cannot judge the Wii or ANY of its games until it is released. Why? Because NOOONE has EVER experienced gameplay which it offers. Just because a trailer shows one thing does not mean the game will be exactly how it is shown/played. How do you know it is good or bad if you've never experienced it? How do you know how successful it will be? Noone does! ANYONE can easily judge a PS3 or Xbox360. Why? Because they're the same thing with better graphics.
As for games being good. Your argument is flawed. Everyone has different opinions on what is a "Good" game and what is not. It is all based on opinions. You obviously favour Sony games, good for you. I favour all games which appeal to me, despite what console they are on, but it happens that alot of those games happen to be on Nintendo consoles.
And Yes, price DOES determine alot of things. With the increase of various prices all around the World (oil is an example) it has become tough for ALOT of families to keep up with payments. What makes you think that with financial strain that families are gonna pay ~$800-900US for a console and couple of games? I personally dont see any kid or teen buying a PS3 by themselves... Do you really think they're super rich with jobs? Uh no. Sony is asking ALOT for the PS3 and only time will tell to whether their price will affect sales.
(I guess you're forgetting the release price of the Xbox a few years ago. It came out here ~$700-800AU. The Xbox wasnt selling at all, so prices were reduced within ~2 months down to ~$500AU. Xbox sales kicked in from there becoming more successful.)
Abhorsen...I don't wanna offend, but there were somee things REALLY broken on your post.
I'll try to keep myself imparcial here:
Well, let's think a little about the Gamecube. Alright, it WAS innovative, had more cool games, had a new design, had a lower price. Almost the same as Wii. But what? In the end, PS2 sold more than the Gamecube would sell ever. And a few years later, Sony came with that PS2 Slim idea. Cheaper. Why couldn't they do the same thing with the PS3, but earlier? The thing that increases and alot the prices of the PS3 is that chip. But for sure that increases everything. And about revamps, I can't see anything wrong about them. As u said, we can't judge a game just because of their trailers. U all don't have any idea about the PS3 and Xbox360 games, so as the Wii games. Noone can say anything about anything. Of course, if u go to a different forum, the ppl there could be saying that the PS3 rox and the Wii sux.
Just think: Here, everybody may be saying that the Wii is God's creation. But on another forum I'm registered, everybody's saying that PS3'll be the next Big Bang, that it'll create a whole new universe and another God.
I reeally don't care, ppl can think what they want. I'm jsut showing what I think.
Lord9511
I'll try to keep myself imparcial here:
Well, let's think a little about the Gamecube. Alright, it WAS innovative, had more cool games, had a new design, had a lower price. Almost the same as Wii. But what? In the end, PS2 sold more than the Gamecube would sell ever. And a few years later, Sony came with that PS2 Slim idea. Cheaper. Why couldn't they do the same thing with the PS3, but earlier? The thing that increases and alot the prices of the PS3 is that chip. But for sure that increases everything. And about revamps, I can't see anything wrong about them. As u said, we can't judge a game just because of their trailers. U all don't have any idea about the PS3 and Xbox360 games, so as the Wii games. Noone can say anything about anything. Of course, if u go to a different forum, the ppl there could be saying that the PS3 rox and the Wii sux.
And Kaito...well, originally, the PS2 had a higher cost than the Gamcube, right? And if Nintendo actually created the Wii to be a buffed up Gamecube with an all-different design?Abhorsen said:
Just think: Here, everybody may be saying that the Wii is God's creation. But on another forum I'm registered, everybody's saying that PS3'll be the next Big Bang, that it'll create a whole new universe and another God.
I reeally don't care, ppl can think what they want. I'm jsut showing what I think.
Lord9511
The Wii, of course. In an issue of NP, they announced that the Wii can play a ton of different games from different game systems including the Super NES. (for those who have game systems that the Wii can play, sell them and be happy!) The Wii is sorta like the DS: The DS uses a stylus like a palmpilot, while the Wii is built so your movements can do things in the games. Like holding the controller like it's a bow in Twilight Princess makes Link actually pull out a bow. Many other stuff are going to be for the Wii that are going to be instantly popular. Like SSBB In onclusion, if you have a bunch of money, don't buy a PS3. You need to but the game system AND a drive in order to even play games. Xbox360? Costs tons of money. But the Wii, you should buy.
Um, not meaning to bash the Gamecube in the face...but it wasn't THAT innovative if you think about it. It was the first Nintendo console to use CD data, but everyone else was using that already. The controller, while different, didn't offer a completely new way to play games like online play did. It couldn't play movies, it couldn't play music, it didn't have online capabilities OR backwards compatibility.
Now, don't get me wrong. I love some Gamecube games, but statistics show that it is the least favored in the current-gen environment. The reason it fell behind wasn't because of what you said in your last post, but because the PS2 had backwards compatibility with its last system AND it was a DVD player as well.
As I've said before, you CANNOT judge a system before it's out. The PS3 could flop because of the price of the system and games (people have bills to pay, you know) and the Wii could fail because the controller may not be all that it's cracked up to be. Granted, if they both fail in these ways they have backwards compatibility, but Nintendo has Sony beat there since it's library will be bigger.
Once again, there's no way to judge until the other systems are out. AND sales will be different from country to country. Don't believe me? Check 360 sales in Japan on their release date...
Now, don't get me wrong. I love some Gamecube games, but statistics show that it is the least favored in the current-gen environment. The reason it fell behind wasn't because of what you said in your last post, but because the PS2 had backwards compatibility with its last system AND it was a DVD player as well.
So explain to me why it's more expensive to buy a Slim PS2 than a regular one. And I'm not even joking, because it IS more expensive.
We don't, but the countless people that played the Wii at E3 do. And they've posted reviews showering Nintendo with goodness.
As I've said before, you CANNOT judge a system before it's out. The PS3 could flop because of the price of the system and games (people have bills to pay, you know) and the Wii could fail because the controller may not be all that it's cracked up to be. Granted, if they both fail in these ways they have backwards compatibility, but Nintendo has Sony beat there since it's library will be bigger.
Once again, there's no way to judge until the other systems are out. AND sales will be different from country to country. Don't believe me? Check 360 sales in Japan on their release date...
That's ok, I like to defend my opinions.Lord9511 said:
In real fact, the Gamecube was not innovative at all. It had almost Nothing new at all to the other consoles at its time (being PS2 and Xbox). It was simply another console which was designed for one sole purpose: To play Video games. Nintendo specifically made the GC to not have an inbuilt DVD player. The graphics for the GC were subpar to Xbox and PS2 (according to statistics only) and it wasnt as fast (supposedly) as the other 2 consoles.
The Gamecube failed sales for 2 reasons...
1. It lacked advertisement. Nintendo didnt advertise it enough for people to know anything about it.
2. It didnt get anywhere near enough 3rd Party support.
The lack of 3rd party is probably what killed the Gamecube the most. Since alot of popular 3rd party games such as GTA werent applied for Gamecube it was simply targeted by the media as a 'kids console' with Mario, Zelda and Pokemon. That too didnt help its sales. However, some of the best games of all the entire generation were on Gamecube. SSBM being one of the most popular games available. Metroid and Zelda not far behind.
I think you're forgetting that the PS2 was released a couple of years BEFORE Gamecube and Xbox were. Not only did it have a head start but it managed to snag all the 3rd party companies because it had graphics appeal. When PS2 was released there was No console which equalled it, that's why people went for it more.
This generation will be different. Xbox360 has been out for what? 6 months now? (I dont know the exact dates.) From what i've been seeing and hearing, it isnt going as crash hot as I thought it would have gone. We CAN judge 360 games since they exist already. Dont know exact values on anything, but havent heard much on its success that's all...
What i'm meaning to say about the other games... There hasnt been ANYTHING like Wii... EVER. Noone knows how easy or difficult it will be to control and what level the gaming experience/interaction will be on. The reason why Wii is appealing to more people is because it's different. Motion sensing puts you IN the game, instead of pressing buttons and moving the D-pad to do whatever like traditional consoles.
I'm not saying that the Wii is "God's creation" and i'm not saying that it will be better than anything. Noone knows how it will fair in the new generation. Yes, the Wii isnt as big and fat as the 360 or PS3, it doesnt have Uber graphics which show pixels which our eyes cant even pick up, and it doesnt run as fast as a Grand Prix car, but that doesnt mean it wont have a chance. It is the new way to play games which is what is attracting people to it. The cheap price of the Wii and expensive price of the PS3 does make a difference. There were polls for about a month after E3. I can try and dig some of them up for you if you want... IIRC 89% of people said that the PS3 was too expensive. PS3 is not a family-friendly console. If you want to play it and see how new and "original" it will be then it's gonna cost you, and it's not cheap. Alot of people dont have that money sitting around.
Maybe in a couple of years PS3 will be on top... Maybe Wii will be on top... Maybe Xbox360 will be on top... We simply dont know how any of them will go. They're all different, new games, new interaction (motion-sensing and 'tilting') and the prices vary considerably. Will any of these affect the success or downfall of any of the consoles? Possibly. We'll have to wait and see...
Y'know, alot of people thought the gamecube was a flop, but they're wrong. Turns out that nintendo made the most profit!
I really can't see sonys next gen machine selling that well. Dont get me wrong, it might have some great games, but the price just ruins the whole thing. Those who want good graphics would probably buy an
x-box 360 for cheaper (if they havent done so already...) and those who want something new would probably go buy a wii. Plus, looking at the wii's line up... well, its very good.
I liked alot of the games the PS2 offered, but lets face it: Sony will probably lose this. Big time.
I wouldnt really like to see microsoft to take over the market though... they have too much money as it is. >.<
I really can't see sonys next gen machine selling that well. Dont get me wrong, it might have some great games, but the price just ruins the whole thing. Those who want good graphics would probably buy an
x-box 360 for cheaper (if they havent done so already...) and those who want something new would probably go buy a wii. Plus, looking at the wii's line up... well, its very good.
I liked alot of the games the PS2 offered, but lets face it: Sony will probably lose this. Big time.
I wouldnt really like to see microsoft to take over the market though... they have too much money as it is. >.<
