Deck Discussion #12: Blazeray (DP-SV)
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DarthPika said:
I agree to that.
DarthPika said:
I agree to that.[/QUOTE]
Have either of you played the deck? If not I fail to see how you can rate a deck without playing it.
I though you said this was BDIF Gliscor.
Well, it hasn't done anything yet, Kingdra diserved his hype.
Ok, but you say a lot about it.
http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107409
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it's a product of hype, IMO. Blaziken FB is inferior to Infernape 4.
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it's a product of hype, IMO. Blaziken FB is inferior to Infernape 4.
In all honesty, if you take down quite a serious attacker then you can infact stay up longer with your shear speed. Lets look at it, palkia G is easy enough to KO with your luxray so legoes is out of the way, bedrill should be an easy matchup as you destroy them with weakness and speed, Mirror match is why you have promocroak, kingdra yet again luxray, Mother Gengar should be a decent matchup anyway, flygon well use your lucario and ninetales. So it is a decent deck maybe not BDIF but it doesn't have a massive weakness. Sure you are vulnerable but you are vulnerable with infernape as well. Face it a decent deck deals about 90-100 in these days so infernape is already on deaths door. I obviously am inexperienced and most likely wrong so can someone explain why it is bad?
Ariadosguy said:
Yeah, I agree with you, especially on the second paragraph. Sure, Blaziken is a bit quicker, but Infernape has more solid attacks. Blaziken doesn't usually get above 80, while Infernape hits 100 easily, and can use Split Bomb for some early spreading. Blaziken's main problem is that it doesn't have a reliable second attack, unlike Infernape. Infernape does have to discard, but then you can attach another energy and spread a little bit. What does Blaziken on it's second turn? Either it Luring Flames (again) because of a WP, or it is dead because of the virtual -40HP. People need to realize Blazeray isn't "BDIFzorz!!1!one!"
(By the way, what's with the quote? Granted, Luxray is a decent attacker, but he isn't amazing. The ratios are solid, but the drawbacks are a bit iffy. He also lacks OHKoing abilities...unlike Infernape (possibly Blaziken, too), and most other meta attackers can do. (Kingdra doesn't OHKO, but his side effect wasn't that bad...though it is dead now, but I'm more of refering to the past) Attacking just isn't the reason Luxray is played. (Unless of course, you are going against Palkia...he is a hawt attacker there.)
Luxray's Bright Look will be used against pretty much every deck and usually will be followed by one of Luxray's attacks. But I suppose you're right, Luxray's attacks aren't super-broken.
Do you guys think its worth running a 1-1-1 metagross line in blazeray? You can in theory be attacking for a 100 as lets face it your gona be KOed anyway. I know it will slow down the deck but blaziken won't fail if he just plays your normal style.
^That's wasting three spaces, and if you don't run Rare Candy getting out that Metagross will be tremendously slow. To add on, I don't think you'll want to waste your Time Walk on getting out a Pokemon from the Metagross line rather than a Pokemon that you really need.
Blazeray loses to Legos my brother owned one today.
Yea it is hard. You just have to try and spray the mesprits and slap a uxie before they get teh lock. Luxray helps as they have touble coming back from 1 hit Knockouts
Legoes is hard? I've been having a decent win streak against Legoes. Man, now when I post "Slightly Favorable" in my BlazeRay article against Legoes everyone is gonna say something about me being WRONG.
But I don't think BlazeRay has a disadvantage. Maybe more even-ish with the right techs.
But I don't think BlazeRay has a disadvantage. Maybe more even-ish with the right techs.
Well you rely less on your powers in blazeray compared to Luxape and even luxape is decent against your Legoes