Dialga G Lv. X

Zangoosed said:
What if you face Dialga G Lv. X in the top cut?
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I was just saying this to George2FRESH specifically, based on his assumption that his deck "automatically" loses to Dialga G Lv.X. I don't think this is true for every deck that might have concerns with Dialga G Lv. x.
Magmotor one shots it
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Only if Dialga is active. And I'm not sure why anyone using Dialga G Lv. X as a tech in their deck would actually lay it down on their bench anyway in that matchup since it is practically useless versus Magmortar variants. Just to stop Heatrans Heat Metal pokebody?

My point on this whole matter is that George2FRESH shouldnt use his deck if he fears that Dialga G Lv. X will ruin its day every time. Why take a chance?? Especially with all the hype its receiving, there is no doubt its a risk taking such a deck cause Dialga is going to see play.

In my last City Championship, I had a choice between 3 decks. I was going to use either Kingdra, Obamasnow, or Dusknoir. I ruled out the Dusknoir after a while because it basically has too much trouble with Unown G. I knew Kingdra only had a couple bad matchups and even then I felt Kingdra could still beat any deck in the format. Instead I chose to go with Obamasnow as I knew it had no bad matchups other than random Grass decks (which NO ONE in my area was playing) and a 50/50 vs Kingdra. I ended up making top 8 cut, finally only losing to the lone Kingdra in the top 4. So my point is, choose a deck which you think will have the best chance. Choose the deck which you think has the least amount of bad matchups. George2FRESH, if you honestly think one card like Dialga G is going to ruin your deck, then in my opinion, you should choose another deck. :)
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Of course I take the metagame and hyped up cards into consideration. And that helps me choose what deck to play. I'm just saying, I don't want to be "Scared" out of using a deck that I want because of 1 card, and not face that 1 card at all.

Hypothetically speaking again.. let's just say I have a Shaymin deck (I really don't) and I REALLY want to play it because it's fun and a great deck to play, and it can beat most of the decks in my area. BUT, I decide not too, because of all the hype around Dialga, and I ASSUME people in my area will be playing it. Then, through all my match-ups, I end up not facing 1 single Dialga. I just ruined my chance of running a deck that I thought could do well all because of fear of 1 card that ended up not showing up.
 
Ariadosguy said:
Well that's pokemon for you.
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Forget it, I'm going back to Yugioh.

*Looks in wallet*

Forget it, I'm staying with Pokemon.

Dictator Dauntless said:
My big tech against Dialga X is Dusknoir DP. Done.

Think about how many decks can actually afford the bench space.
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That means you'd have to have a tech in your deck to face another tech to counter your deck... 's tech.. oh no I've gone cross-eyed.
 
George2FRESH said:
Ariadosguy said:
Well that's pokemon for you.
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Forget it, I'm going back to Yugioh.

*Looks in wallet*

Forget it, I'm staying with Pokemon.

Dictator Dauntless said:
My big tech against Dialga X is Dusknoir DP. Done.

Think about how many decks can actually afford the bench space.
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That means you'd have to have a tech in your deck to face another tech to counter your deck... 's tech.. oh no I've gone cross-eyed.
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If it's a big-enough tech to hurt your deck enough, playing a tech to kill it off isn't a bad idea, even if it sounds odd
 
Anyone want some good cards it shuts down or severely hinders?

Alright.

Shaymin LVX.
Ampharos PT
Ampharos SW
Manectric PT
Heatran LVX - Burn effect
Sceptile GE
Espeon MD
Umbreon MD
Glaceon LVX
Cherrim SF
Vespiquen SF
Tyranitar SF
Macheap LVX
Magnezone DP
Giratina LVX
Dustox PT

Just some cards that (are predicted to) see reasonable play.
 
Lou Cypher said:
Anyone want some good cards it shuts down or severely hinders?

Alright.

Shaymin LVX.
Ampharos PT
Ampharos SW
Manectric PT
Heatran LVX - Burn effect
Sceptile GE
Espeon MD
Umbreon MD
Glaceon LVX
Cherrim SF
Vespiquen SF
Tyranitar SF
Macheap LVX
Magnezone DP
Giratina LVX
Dustox PT

Just some cards that (are predicted to) see reasonable play.
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i c wut u did thar c:
 
You forgot Raichu Lv X, shuts down Link Lightning. Also shuts down Garchomp yeah so much for Rainbow Scale, Mewtwo Lv. X is under the gun as well but it can still contend with it's attack though.

I can't imagine how ridiculous Dialga G Lv. X will be in Aggron ex Lockdown in Unlimited. Might be better off running Dialga G X over Aggron since you won't have to risk your opponent getting 2 prizes If it gets KO'ed.

Aerodactyl (Fossil) and Dark Vileplume (Team Rocket) on my bench with Dialga G Lv. X as my Active, Good game? Also don't forget Deafen can shutdown Supporters as well, so much for Kabutops now I know why my friend put them in his trade binder as a trash rare.
 
Deafen can´t shut down Supporters, just Trainers.
About Dialga G, I´m going to use it in my Gardevoir Deck to get a complete Lock of Powers and Bodies.
 
In some decks, Dialga G works miracles. Kingdra, a deck that normally doesn't stand a chance against Grass, can now actually tip the match-up in its favor because of Dialga G and Weavile SW.

I agree, however, Dialga G is not good in every deck. Only those decks that have trouble with Shaymin/Ampharos (which Kingdra does) or decks that don't take a kickback for having it in play (Galactic Toolbox is a great example)should run it.
 
In Grass decks it'd be interesting to see Shuckle (SW) be used as a tech against Dialga G Lv. X, you just better hope they don't retreat or play a Poke Healer + to screw up the lockdown though. :rolleyes:
 
Dialga G Lv. X is a bench sitter. In order for that to happen, you would have to bring Dialga to the forefront. Only for them to retreat or warp out of there.
 
Here's how I look at it, each deck YOU NEED to play Dialga X against:

-Shaymin Variants

Anything else? Nothing I am forgetting? Okay that works for me.
 
Rampardos sure doesn't need Dialga G LV.X... so that just leaves Kingdra worrying about Shaymin.
 
Dialga G Lv.X is going to be overhyped and will be played a lot in a bunch of decks.

Especially G Pokemon decks.
 
Zy: Exactly.

Norman: I couldn't agree more.

I think that it is TOTALLY overhyped and unless a lucky LV MAX flip does it for you, have fun LV'ing this tank up.
 
I will agree it is a little over hyped, but most of the time when people hype it, they are talking about decks like Kingdra that benefit from having Dialga G.

Dialga G can't be successfully used a lot when its not in SP-decks or Kingdra.
 
Dialga is also going to used a lot in Slaking.

This format is not going to be gentle. It's a rough road ahead now.
 
Not overhyped at all. Possibly the best card from a player's perspective. When one of your pokes gets KO'd, bring Dialga G active, Level Up, and Warp Point. It's not that hard. Oh and not to mention Level Max.

Seriously, it is just SUCH a good card, and if people don't take notice, anybody teching one in will have a serious advantage at tourneys, making a lot of decks near auto-wins.
 
PokeMaster619 said:
Dialga is also going to used a lot in Slaking.

This format is not going to be gentle. It's a rough road ahead now.
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Slaking is easily destroyed by a fast Rampardos deck. Running Crobat G, PokeTurn, and Pluspower, I might even have a good shot at OHKOing you whenever I feel like it. Dialga G Lv.X hardly helps that matchup.

The format never was gentle. It's whether you're prepared for it or not.
 
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