Discussion of the Week #1 - Obesity

Thank you Juliacoolo for bringing his back
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Did you know that more kids (toddlers an babies) know who Ronald McDonald is than those who know who Jesus is
You got that from Supersize Me, that wasn't a study of all the kids in the USA, just a few on a movie. Why should I care, anyway?
 
Juliacoolo said:
There's no way you're BMI is 70

There is the chance he could be 70 kilos and 1 meter tall.

I'm a 20.3. Because of my stupid height, I've been classified underweight for a great deal of my childhood and had to endure comments like "hey you should play basketball!" ;_;
 
22.1. Close enough.
I think, personally, that in some cases it is the parents fault for not giving or preparing their children for a healthy lifestyle; usually obese parents wind up with obese children. You don't just eat all that food because you're hungry. It's some type of outside influence that harms the eating habits of people, most often children. This is what I think of the issue, that's all.
 
I got a BMI of 18.2 and 18th percentile. Great.

I personally don't think putting a blame on obesity is the key. Being fat is a group effort. Fast food, parents, kids, Chuck Norris and ect. are all to blame.


XieRH said:
Juliacoolo said:
There's no way you're BMI is 70

Because of my stupid height, I've been classified underweight for a great deal of my childhood and had to endure comments like "hey you should play basketball!" ;_;

Ugghh, I hate when people say that. I suck at basketballl. Then I hear everyone saying "You should play basketball." I quit for a reason.
 
There is a significant portion of men and women (particularly infantry and special forces types) in the global armed forces community with a BMI that label them as obiese. Additionally, there are countless atheletes, policemen, firemen and bodybuilders who are in the same boat to name further examples of 'mislabelling'. What the BMI does not take into account is that these people have very high amounts of muscle, rather than fat. And indeed, these 'false positives' have skewed the results somewhat, making it appear there are many more fatties amongst us than there really is.

The simple fact of the matter is that, in 99% of cases, if you are overweight (a grease sweating, finger licking fatty) - it is your own fault. Plain and simple. Funnily enough, almost everyone seems to think that they are in the <1% who have an underlying medical issue (lol denial). It really is quite simple - if you take in more energy each day than you use then you are going to put on weight. If you take in less energy than you use each day, then you're going to lose weight. It is quite annoying that fatties will always try to lay the blame onto someone else, and refuse to take responsibility for their own problems.
 
HypnoticLuxray said:
Ugghh, I hate when people say that. I suck at basketballl. Then I hear everyone saying "You should play basketball." I quit for a reason.

I never even started basketball to begin with. On the subject of obesity there was once this fat kid who teased me about my height and skinny stature when I was a kid and he was one of those who said "heeey you're so tall you should play basketball" in an obvious trolling manner.

I replied "heeey you're so fat you should be a sumo wrestler". :cool:


Krucifier said:
And indeed, these 'false positives' have skewed the results somewhat, making it appear there are many more fatties amongst us than there really is.

The results don't really matter because the average guy out there with a bit of common sense can see for himself the amount of fat people around him when he goes about his daily life anyway. IMO, BMI is kinda lame anyway. I don't even know what a person's height has to do with his obesity level, it's like saying tall people are "allowed" to be fatter. Why not something like muscle/fat ratio, etc?
 
BMI is easy numbers for the paper pushers, that's why it's popular >.>

In any event, I also peg obesity in America on the large amount of unhealthy additives in common household food. Things like high fructose corn syrup and excessive sugar in things even like bread can result in a weight gain, or at least less weight loss. It's arguably less of a problem at a place like Whole Foods, where the stuff is more fresh and natural (and the people I know that can afford it are also healthier, go figure), and the amount of crap in the food gets worse the poorer you go. Back when exercise was common and the socioeconomics were (less) of a joke, the additives (also less common in the 70s or whatnot to my knowledge) had less of an impact.

But now this poor imitation of common household food with countless additives, some borderline exclusive to the US, paired lower exercise (due to videogames/electronics or unsafe neighborhoods or what have you) have led to the problem we have.

So who's at fault? Everyone, starting with the people that add all this crap to foods, and ending with us who don't put the time in to exercise. Too bad it's easier in other parts of the world, at least in Europe they don't add shit that rats won't even touch.
 
Honestly, whenever I go anywhere in Canada, I barely see obese people. Not to say that they aren't there, but I rarely see them in public.

However, I feel fast food is to blame. I've never in my life seen an obese italian, and sometimes I wonder why that is. The immediate answer is that since they love to cook, they don't eat any fast food, and they stay slim.


Cook your own meals and you'll be fine!
 
pokemon99 said:
I've never in my life seen an obese italian, and sometimes I wonder why that is. The immediate answer is that since they love to cook, they don't eat any fast food, and they stay slim.


Cook your own meals and you'll be fine!

Oh, they exist. Trust me. :p Unfortunately, cooking your own meals isn't the end-all be-all. You still have to watch what you make!

I don't think we could ever reach a conclusion about the etiology and solution to this growing issue. In order to combat obesity, different angles need to be targeted. Diet, exercise, and in some cases, counseling, should all be focused on in order to implement long-lasting lifestyle changes.
 
I got a 18.7 and fell on the 8th percentile on the BMI scale. Its not like I eat fruits and vegetables all the time. I don't like a lot of vegetables even, but I work about 32 hours a week and it gets to be pretty physical at times stocking some items that can weight 70 lbs. There is one other reason which is a bigger one on why my BMI is so low; I had to have one surgery otherwise I would've died and food goes through me a lot faster than the average human.

@Ethan: I've seen you in real life. I know you aren't a 70.
 
The fast food companies are not to blame. These people who come into their stores everyday have a choice to buy or not to buy. It is their fault if everyday they choose to get a nice Big Mac from McDonalds until they're 400 pounds. (But Guy, these companies are enticing us with they're great addicting taste) Yes they are, they see an opportunity to make money and they follow threw, the things that taste good are usually bad for you. McDonalds, Wendy's and other fast food restaurants are included. In the end you have to choose your own life over the taste of the burgers and fries you eat for lunch everyday.

I heard that in San Francisco McDonalds got sued for having toys that enticed them into buying their product and becoming obese and overweight. Come on, have a little class, you're the one who chose a little Happy Meal toy over your quality of life.
 
Guy89 said:
I heard that in San Francisco McDonalds got sued for having toys that enticed them into buying their product and becoming obese and overweight. Come on, have a little class, you're the one who chose a little Happy Meal toy over your quality of life.

Over here they have it even better. Toys are for kids. Wanna reel in the adult bucks? Tada

10093_mcdonaldcokeglass.jpg


I managed to assemble a collection of a complete set too, foreigners go nuts for this sort of limited edition collectables too, I should look into selling mine on eBay or something.
 
Those are some pretty sweet add-ins.

I notice McDonalds turns it into one a week, just to make sure that people know they only need to go once a week. And that's what people should be limited to. Once a week at McDonalds, doesn't sound excessive or harsh. McDonalds really protects themselves there.
 
Guy89 said:
I notice McDonalds turns it into one a week, just to make sure that people know they only need to go once a week.\

lol no silly, it's to ensure that people go at least once a week for a total of 6 weeks (think about it from a perspective of the sales and marketing department and it'd make sense)

What, you think most guys stop at buying only 1 of each glass like me? My uncle bought 3. That's 3 meals.
 
I remember they had something special a while back with glass incentives (I don't think it was this specific thing that's being shown in the pretty picture, however).

I know some McDonald's sell the toys/glasses/whatever separately. No food necessary. (For example, the Pokemon toys. Screw eating all those Happy Meals getting the cards lol).

I don't have much to add to the current conversation besides I don't think it's fast food's fault. I think it's just people's habits.

dmaster out.
 
My parents eat healthy, too. To the EXTREME.
Have I ever been to McDonalds?
Once. In my opinion, it was gross. D:
I have no idea what it's like to be overweight because I've been really skinny my whole life.
I've been trying to GAIN 10 pounds. I wish I had normal weight. :p
 
Yes, eating too much and not getting enough exercise is an obvious reason why so many Americans are obese... However, there is one underlying factor many people tend to overlook. Sugar consumption. Sugar is the number one reason why some people have so much trouble losing weight. It works in more ways than one, too. Honestly, the best thing to do is to start making your own food and eating that (in moderation, of course), while still getting some exercise. There are so-called "healthier" foods out there that look good and draw you in with a false sense of security, but often, those types of foods are laden with preservatives that harm your body and make you feel sluggish. I have an article below from UCSF that explains more in-depth the evils of sugar.

http://www.ucsf.edu/news/2009/06/8187/obesity-and-metabolic-syndrome-driven-fructose-sugar-diet

By the way, as CMP said, BMI is a decent way of broadly seeing how in shape you in are, but it in no way accounts for the amount of muscle compared to fat present in your body.
 
While Im no expert in the foods that make you obese, I do know a thing or two about exercise because my best freind is a personal trainer :D One of the best things you can do is get cardio into your daily routine. Instead of walking to the department store howabout a jog? the next step is crunchs push-ups and wall sits.These are the simplest ones! Just do 10 push ups between each match of CoD (alternate between sit upsalso 10 and wall sits(do that intill your next match starts)) These supremely simple exercises will help you tone your body and fend off obesity!

:p
 
The sheer number of calories many consume on a daily basis is too much also. I'm just now starting to learn the importance of calorie counting on a day to day basis. I started this on Monday, and I've already dropped 4 pounds from it. I calculated my basal metabolic rate, set a number of calories as my daily limit, and try not to go above it. I've been successful every day thus far, and adding exercise into it also just helps add more of a deficit each day! I'm going to continue to see how long this method works out for me. I'm hoping that all will go well for it, and honestly, so far so good.
 
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