BW/BW2 Dual Type Moves

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Wow. Don't you guys calculate damage? I do every time I battle the League I carefully select each move on it's power and type. And also it's meant to be super powerful! It's possible to do 16x damage already!
 
Chiraami said:
Wow. Don't you guys calculate damage? I do every time I battle the League I carefully select each move on it's power and type. And also it's meant to be super powerful! It's possible to do 16x damage already!

no its x4 i thought well only if its two types are weak against the same typing of the move you used
 
Overpowered.

Try to play out the situation of a Fire/Flying move used on a Bug/Grass type.

THAT'S 8x damage, and completely ridiculous. /thread
 
I think the game is fine the way it is. We have STAB and we have the Physical/Special split that allows for lots of variety and choice when it comes to battling your opponents. It should be more important to raise a pokemon with good stats, instead of finding a pokemon with good dual typing. It makes the game tougher too.

Any system that would allow x16 damage would be absolutely crazy!
 
Chiraami said:
Wow. Don't you guys calculate damage? I do every time I battle the League I carefully select each move on it's power and type. And also it's meant to be super powerful! It's possible to do 16x damage already!

Yeah, but it's also possible that moves like Fire Punch don't affect Ghost types because part of it is Fighting. There are many different ways of looking at this, and rather than getting people angry at you and getting a bad name, look at other peoples ideas and consider them. Many people right now don't like you because you look at us like we're idiots, change that attitude and you'll be likeable.
 
Hellion said:
Overpowered.

Try to play out the situation of a Fire/Flying move used on a Bug/Grass type.

THAT'S 8x damage, and completely ridiculous. /thread

Actually, it's 16x damage...
 
cartman said:
Because pokemon games change. If it's more fun or interesting, then by all means, make the change.
There are plenty of game mechanics going on in the background, and you don't think about them when you play. Take the small random power boosts or the way damage is calculated, for example:

(((2*Level + 10)/250)*(Attack/Defense)*Base + 2)*Modifier
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Damage#Damage_formula

If you can't understand the multiplication and division behind dual-type moves, then I doubt you understand how damage is calculated in the first place. Yet, you don't complain about it. Seriously, "this is too confusing for me to understand" is not a really good argument against the implementation of "confusing" game mechanics. Like I said, dual type anything - dual-type pokemon or dual-type moves - involve just multiplication and division. So please.


Oh, and by the way, "because people (ME) are stupid and don't have the time to think of it. 1 type is enough for me. Why change it?" sounds very ego-centric.

OK why were people so mad at me!?
it was 1 post with 1 opinion u are really mad at me like I did something wrong .
And I simply ask about. "why change it" was a simple question and I haven't gotten a true answer too that so IMO I don't think they are adding dual type moves.
Again I have the right too my opinion
P.S That is not ego-centric. It was a joke. oh and it was also a OPINION
 
No one was ranting at you. cartman was showing you something. As far as I can tell, the arguememt is only going to get worse.
 
Chiraami said:
No one was ranting at you. cartman was showing you something. As far as I can tell, the arguememt is only going to get worse.

yeah but he got mad like i did something wrong. i posted my opinion.
Sorry took the ranting ou of the post. wrong word
 
Of course they aren't adding them! In all battle screenshots there are no dual type moves! And change it as pokemon games are about change! They change very time!

Posting your opinion isn't illegal.
 
Chiraami said:
Of course they aren't adding them! In all battle screenshots there are no dual type moves! And change it as pokemon games are about change! They change very time!

Posting your opinion isn't illegal.



o_O then why did u make this thread in the first place?
Oh and posting my opinion does seem illegal at the time.
P.S I'm not mad at u
 
runeon12 said:
Yeah, but it's also possible that moves like Fire Punch don't affect Ghost types because part of it is Fighting. There are many different ways of looking at this, and rather than getting people angry at you and getting a bad name, look at other peoples ideas and consider them. Many people right now don't like you because you look at us like we're idiots, change that attitude and you'll be likeable.

Umm, no. This is an example of a strawman, where you assert that the person says or thinks something (example: "you look at us like we're idiots" ; "again I have the right too my opinion"), when in fact he/she has never stated this.
Chiraami has never called anyone idiots.
I never said you can't have an opinion. I was, however, arguing against your opinion, and I stated reasons why.

And on that note, let's all state reasons to support our opinions instead of playing victims.
 
In my opinion, this will never happen. Doing so would impact the Metagame a lot and moves would get confused. Plus, resistance to certain attacks would change for Pokemon and it would become frustrating. Those are my thoughts, although I suppose it could be possible. It wouldn't come anytime soon, however.
 
cartman said:
Umm, no. This is an example of a strawman, where you assert that the person says or thinks something (example: "you look at us like we're idiots" ; "again I have the right too my opinion"), when in fact he/she has never stated this.
Chiraami has never called anyone idiots.
I never said you can't have an opinion. I was, however, arguing against your opinion, and I stated reasons why.

And on that note, let's all state reasons to support our opinions instead of playing victims.

The way u "arguing against my opinion" is not necessarily what u said. U seemed like u thought that my opinion didn't count, was wrong, and whatever i say is right in a way.
I don't like arguing or starting a flam war but please respect other people and there opinions. me and runeon are a perfect example of u saying "whatever I say is right"
 
Great cartman. Ok. Now it's more or less confirmed they won't have them in black and white, but maybe they'll develop that at a later date. I still think it would be a good idea so you could really have an edge in a battle
 
cartman said:
Umm, no. This is an example of a strawman, where you assert that the person says or thinks something (example: "you look at us like we're idiots" ; "again I have the right too my opinion"), when in fact he/she has never stated this.
Chiraami has never called anyone idiots.
I never said you can't have an opinion. I was, however, arguing against your opinion, and I stated reasons why.

And on that note, let's all state reasons to support our opinions instead of playing victims.

Though I don't like to take sides in threads, Rockinpikachu is right.

P.S. - Did you read the rules?

P.S.S. - "Umm, no" is also a way of saying that we can't have an opinion.

Instead of starting this huge flame war (please, I really don't like them), let's resolve everything. If we don't, I'm afraid we're going to have to face the wrath of the Master of D's, and Gyaradoses.
 
rockinpikachu said:
The way u "arguing against my opinion" is not necessarily what u said. U seemed like u thought that my opinion didn't count, was wrong, and whatever i say is right in a way.
I don't like arguing or starting a flam war but please respect other people and there opinions. me and runeon are a perfect example of u saying "whatever I say is right"

That's interesting. Right after I explained the concept of a strawman, you committed one. I never said "I was always right". As a matter of fact, this matter of dual-type moves is about right or wrong.
This is a game. Game developers can change it however they want.

It is my opinion that introducing dual-type moves will add more strategy and diversity to the gameplay.

It is your opinion that you don't want to play with dual-type moves because of whatever.
However, if you aren't complaining about the complicated damage formula and the multiplication/division calculation for dual-elemental pokemon, why would you complain about multiplication/division calculation for dual-type attacks? I want to stop discussing "hurt feelings" and discuss more about good ideas.

quote from runeon12: P.S.S. - "Umm, no" is also a way of saying that we can't have an opinion.
That's right, Chiraami never said you were idiots. So how can you accuse him of saying you are? There was only one person who came up with the idea that you were: you. Also, the "no" was directed solely at the way you were making the strawman, not at your opinion about dual-type moves.
 
cartman said:
That's interesting. Right after I explained the concept of a strawman, you committed one. I never said "I was always right". As a matter of fact, this matter of dual-type moves is about right or wrong.
This is a game. Game developers can change it however they want.

It is my opinion that introducing dual-type moves will add more strategy and diversity to the gameplay.

It is your opinion that you don't want to play with dual-type moves because of whatever.
However, if you aren't complaining about the complicated damage formula and the multiplication/division calculation for dual-elemental pokemon, why would you complain about multiplication/division calculation for dual-type attacks? I want to stop discussing "hurt feelings" and discuss more about good ideas.

Gulp...I see a flame war coming :(
 
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