The United States is the third most populous country in the world, after China and India. It's also the most populous country in the world with English as its main language (beating out #2, the UK, 309,338,000 to 62,041,708). This could also be seen as where the stereotype of the stupid American comes from.
Food Revolution
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I think it's pointless standing up for the US since it's a fact that we have TONS of obese people :L We of course, are not at first in this ranking though. Most of the overweight in our country is seen down South more than North, because of good 'ol southern cooking. Me on the other hand, think Mcdonalds/Anyother food chain, fried food, and most heavy desserts are disgusting.
And about that comment of "All Americans are stupid" note, you're the one who's a fool if anyone here actually believes that.
And about that comment of "All Americans are stupid" note, you're the one who's a fool if anyone here actually believes that.
Honestly if someone could figure out a good way for schools to afford healthy food that would be great, unfortunately that is not gonna happen. Yah, you can boycott school lunches but you will just have to pack a lunch while doing so. Feeding large amounts of people is difficult enough as it is. Seriously, don't you think school administrators know that health is a problem? Watching kids gain weight and knowing that the US has the highest % of obese people probably gives them a hint that school provided meals are not quite what they should be. If you guys think a food revolution is required then you should probably pay for it yourself.
Btw, you know you don't have to eat everything they put on a plate, right?
Btw, you know you don't have to eat everything they put on a plate, right?
LoneTyranitar said:
"afford" is not an issue. The warehouses where they get all the prosessed junk sells real food for very little more. Also, you make the point about school admins, but after my talk with one of the district people, I doubt they realize. My basic message was that they were feeding us garbage with flavoring and chemicals, and their response was basically "yeah... but the kids eat it". They don't care.
I will pay for it if I could. With their budget for food, something could happen. They just mismanage the food. Just take a look at the waste. They spend money on buying salad (they call it that at least). I have not seen 1 student at my school eat that. That's a bucket of wasted money right there. If you were to cut that money out for a short time, you can save enough to make a full shift.
I won't eat what they put on the plate, but others will. Habits start young. If kids are given garbage, they'll eat garbage for the rest of their lives. If they are given food, they will eat food. They don't care (quite honestly) until they see the other side.
Most people are uninformed. I often do a "chicken test" when teaching classes. I will cut up the part of chicken that nuggets that my school district serves are made of (the parts around the ribcage mostly), blend it up, and do every step that they use to make nuggets. Every step, I ask "would you eat this?" The common answer is no. I will add the chemicals that is in school food and continue asking. Finally, I will bread the chicken, cook it, and offer serving it as nuggets. That often changes one's mind about things. The fact that the first sentence to my district's menu is "Not only does our school lunch offer a nutritious, well rounded lunch at a lower price, it's lower in fat and higher in the nutrients a growing child needs." is a horrible lie. People eat that slop because they can't realize that its slop. That's what I want to change. Also, I would hope that there are even other options for students. Many kids rely on school lunches to eat, but dislike the options.
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I'm so glad you know all the money restraints your school system faces. I'm just kidding. Money is everything in public schools. They get money from the state/province/whatever you live in to pay for everything. They also have to fill certain requirements in nutrition, however in the news lately there have been accounts of schools breaking these standards. But if there isn't enough money to change the menu, then they don't. Unless you'd rather the schools take away funding from staff development and teaching utilities, or other vital needs, to pay for food that isn't "slop".z-man said:
*I am indifferent to my school's food. Sometimes its bad, sometimes its good. I also know for a fact that my school's food is nutritious, so I don't have the same problems as you seem to be facing.*
^Might I ask what your school gives you?
There is plenty of money to fix the system. All we need is a "dead period" before the order is made to make all of the plans. Food is worth about the same as the slop they serve. More than that, they have never met the set nutritianal standards. French fries, for example, should count as a starch rather than a vegetable. They count as both apparently. While they are made from roots, they have very little nutrition at all.
Also, what good is a great education when there is no energy to learn? Money should be focused on the food. Money is very important, however, they already make students pay for the food. Why not make it edible? They obviously get some money. They could, perhaps, increase the price maybe a dollar or two to make actual food.
Obviously you should check your facts before insulting me. I've gone to the places where they get their slop. A hedge of lettuce is worth LESS than a thing of processed French Fries. The lettuce is semi-fresh and has actual nutrition.
There is plenty of money to fix the system. All we need is a "dead period" before the order is made to make all of the plans. Food is worth about the same as the slop they serve. More than that, they have never met the set nutritianal standards. French fries, for example, should count as a starch rather than a vegetable. They count as both apparently. While they are made from roots, they have very little nutrition at all.
Also, what good is a great education when there is no energy to learn? Money should be focused on the food. Money is very important, however, they already make students pay for the food. Why not make it edible? They obviously get some money. They could, perhaps, increase the price maybe a dollar or two to make actual food.
Obviously you should check your facts before insulting me. I've gone to the places where they get their slop. A hedge of lettuce is worth LESS than a thing of processed French Fries. The lettuce is semi-fresh and has actual nutrition.
z-man said:
Sure. Depending on the day, it ranges from pre-package "pizza sticks" which merely consist of breading with cheese, to Italian style pasta shells, to turkey and gravy.
I used to work with the cafeteria during my free period. As my school made the school district's food there, and shipped it to all the other schools. I know that everything besides the "pizza sticks" contain the Massachusetts State Regulated vitamins and nutrients. I don't know about the pizza sticks.
My school sold fresh, healthy food and the fatty slop. EVERY kid kept choosing the crapp and the school wasn't making enough money from the healthy food so they discontinued all of it except cucumber slices. In my school's case, it's the kids themselves to blame for the greasy food instead of fresh food. Tbh, I was literally the only one who would buy a salad :/
There's a problem. What you consider "everything" qualifies as processed junk. Foods naturally have nutrients and vitamins for a reason.Bulbabuddy said:
As for pandamore, that is fine. "Healthy" does not have to be bland salad and raw carrot. It can be something enjoyable like burger with lettuce, stir-fried chicken + vegetables. Etc. Also, kids learn early to enjoy slop. If, for example, in Pre-school we teach kids to enjoy food and not candy+slop, we can get something done. Just sayin'
That's what I was saying. The foods besides the "pizza sticks" aren't touched with any additional vitamins. I was basically saying the foods were healthy.z-man said:
We could all bring our lunches to school on one day filled with actual food. I'm sure that would send a pretty strong message, and help things go from there.
It is more hard to eat healthy foods I mean I go and I get lots of fruits and vegys right it cost me more money then to eat the crap thus makeing more people eat crap. Money is a big part of it. People are fat because they don't move around enough. I love to cook and I can cook good stuff but it would almost always be cheaper to go and buy something crappy.
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I have a question, Z-Man. In what area do you live where this is a problem?
Maybe it's because the schools are there to provide education, and not restaurant-quality food.
I know that's not what we're asking for--we want food, not slop--But most of a school's budget goes towards things like computers and textbooks, right?
I don't think they worry too much about lunches and such, at least not as much as other things.
I know that's not what we're asking for--we want food, not slop--But most of a school's budget goes towards things like computers and textbooks, right?
I don't think they worry too much about lunches and such, at least not as much as other things.
^The best way to get a good education is to be awake and alert. With the little actual nutrition that people get, there is very little room for an education. The school wastes money on slop anyways. Why not convert the wasted money into real food. Also, they don't worry about it because no one has made a stand. The dieticians are all accountants. They care more about what they see than what they get.
Also, it seems no one has been reading my comments. Food costs as much or less than slop. As long as the food is bought in a "dead period" right before an order for slop is made, and when we're running out of slop, it can work. The conversion can be clean and smooth.
Also, it seems no one has been reading my comments. Food costs as much or less than slop. As long as the food is bought in a "dead period" right before an order for slop is made, and when we're running out of slop, it can work. The conversion can be clean and smooth.