Except I don't recall Mew EX being good except in Accelgor lolthekoggles said:
'Gengar Spirit Link' Card Revealed! [8/22]
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I still don't think he will make a name for himself, but if we get the support everyone is saying we will I can imagine 1-1 or 2-2 in a Psychic Toolbox deck. Mewtwo EX/M Gengar/Garbodor is the only deck I can think of that would work.
Mega Gengar is going to be a good card and will be played. How many decks have you seen where there are no pokemon in the deck that have good attacks. It will not only be a situational card it will be a good card in the meta and im sure phamtom gate will have psychic support.
The spirit link card will make mega gengar even better, giving you the option of a turn 2 mega that can attack.
The spirit link card will make mega gengar even better, giving you the option of a turn 2 mega that can attack.
What's that? A playable Mega you say?
Yes a very playble mega
No you would not get stuck with the drawbacks because the attack does not say you need to complete the necesary actions to use attack.
Ironman131 said:
That's incorrect. Assuming that it uses the same language and rulings from Zoroark's Foul Play, Phantom Gate copies all effects of the attack, excluding the energy cost (the language for effects copying effects AND energy cost can be found on cads like Mew-EX and Kecleon PLF). This means that if, say, the attack M Gengar-EX were copying required that it discard 2 energy attached to this pokemon, you would have to discard that many energy, or at least as many as you could. However if the attack were, for example, Reshiram's Blue Flare, which requires you discard fire energy, but you only had psychic energy attached to M Gengar, you would not have to discard any energy, because you wouldn't have any fire energy to discard.
Note that you still cannot discard non-existent energy for optional effects. For example, you cannot copy Landorus-EX's Land's Judgement and then just use it's optional effect for more damage without discarding any energy. You still have to fulfill the requirement of discarding fighting type energy (which could be done through, say, Rainbow Energy, but not without it).
So if the atack that we are using with M gengar say disacard energy with out saying a specific type then we would need to discard that amount of energy as well. Is that what your are saying Auride
Ironman131 said:
Yes. So if you were, say, Copying Black Kyurem-EX's Black Ballista, you would still have to discard 3 energy attached to M Gengar-EX. That said, if you only had two energy attached (through the use of Dimensional Valley) you would discard all of them, because you have to do as much as you can (the is a general rule which applies to all things in the domain of "public knowledge", including all card in your discard pile, the number of cards in your hand or deck, and, yes, the number of energy cards attached to your pokemon).
However if Black Ballista read "Discard 3 [W] energy attached to this Pokemon, and you only had psycic energy on Gengar, you would discard nothing, because discarding no water energy is as much as you can do.
Check said:
Why do you think it should be banned? Birthday Pikachu was banned just because you couldn't effectively verify if it were a player's birthday without requiring them to bring their birth certificate (or other official documentation) to each game. That, and it conferred an unfair advantage to random players (even if that advantage wasn't that great). M Gengar-EX doesn't resemble that sort of situation at all. It's attack is just an expanded version of Zoroark BLW, which was an alright card but was by no means overpowered at any point in time...
Ok thank you for explaning that i didnt know that.
He isn't broken. He is okay(Still think he isn't going to be game breaking) and will see some play as a tech. Bans were given to cards that either were too overpowered or had a weird ruling.
Slowking was a mistranslation that made it's ability stack making the most effective lock deck ever. Sneasel could do ridiculous amounts of damage. If you had 4 Slowing and 1 more Sneasel you could flip 6 coins times 20 to see how much damage you would do for 2 energy which was a lot by the HP.
Birthday Pikachu and Weird Mew both made the game too complicated and were kicked from the game.
I think Pokemon TCG is way past banning cards. If they did they would have banned Sableye SF and Gardevoir SW for being too overpowered. They just let the rotation happen now.
Slowking was a mistranslation that made it's ability stack making the most effective lock deck ever. Sneasel could do ridiculous amounts of damage. If you had 4 Slowing and 1 more Sneasel you could flip 6 coins times 20 to see how much damage you would do for 2 energy which was a lot by the HP.
Birthday Pikachu and Weird Mew both made the game too complicated and were kicked from the game.
I think Pokemon TCG is way past banning cards. If they did they would have banned Sableye SF and Gardevoir SW for being too overpowered. They just let the rotation happen now.
Eh like I said before I don't play the TCG I have friends who do and they`ll be pissed as hell (<-- its PG-13 so I don't know if we can use this*) if this card makes it into world rotation cause if your turn never ends even after attack then you basically auto win almost. - Garbodor and abilities like that of course.
Check said:
What? Spirit Link cards aren't going to make it so your turn doesn't end when you attack -- that's absurd. This card simply negates the Mega Evolution rule, which currently causes your turn to end as soon as you mega-evolve one of your Pokemon-EX. Nothing here is gonna make you auto-win.
Yeah, I don't see the big deal either.. it's just the Pokémon Company trying to fix their Megas so that people want to buy more boosters.
If it allowed you to also use Gengar-Ex attacks, then that might be something. As it is, it is somewhat situational on what the opponent uses and a decent improvement to a "decent" Mega, IMO.
If it allowed you to also use Gengar-Ex attacks, then that might be something. As it is, it is somewhat situational on what the opponent uses and a decent improvement to a "decent" Mega, IMO.