That's one of the main reasons I'm testing it now. While I haven't really made that kind of use of it yet, chipping away with 1 energy spread is actually very nice in the early game. The retreat cost is the biggest bummer about it, sure, but it's still not too bad to deal with.Has anyone here thought about running the new promo Greninja as a means to help deal with Garbodor?
I would like to know how you're doing with this deck. Is it ok? I think the Greninja promo is very situational, but yet worth to use, specially against Garbodor, being able to deal 20 damage, then Lysandre + Moonlight Slash is great, but I don't think how it fits against decks that doesn't use Garbodor. Anyway, I would drop the Trainers' Mail to run 1 more Level Ball and 1 more Sycamore, having a Froakie on the bench on T1 is my personal priority.That's one of the main reasons I'm testing it now. While I haven't really made that kind of use of it yet, chipping away with 1 energy spread is actually very nice in the early game. The retreat cost is the biggest bummer about it, sure, but it's still not too bad to deal with.
I kicked my energy count up to 10 because I felt I was getting too many game-costing energy droughts. I still feel kinda iffy about Splash Energy because it's more easily disrupted than basic Water.
To be honest, tool removal isn't even really enough to deal with garbodor. You need to knock the trash bag out on the first turn of moonlight slash to have a chance. In standard, the only way to do this is to play giovanni's scheme with pokemon catcher, since muscle band rotated. Unfortunately, everything that plays garbodor these days usually has the power to KO a greninja by the time it comes up.I had no succes with the promo Greninja against Garbodor. Still trying Minccino. I highly recommend eco arm I use it a lot. Might need to completely rethink Greninja and pair with something like Audino or Latios because of all the Garbodor.
Why not run float stone(s) if your going to play Octillery. Neither Pokémon mentioned works well under ability lock.What about running manaphy as an answer for if the octillary gets lysandre'd in?
What about running manaphy as an answer for if the octillary gets lysandre'd in?