Greninja Discussion
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So, another thought to throw at the wall: Genesect EX w/ Plasmas in Greninja/Kingdra? It certainly has the time for the attachments to Genesect, considering one energy in play is actually all you need to start doing damage with Kingdra. Question is, is there enough space? By attempting to run consistent lines of both stage 2s, can ANYTHING be added? with 4-2-4 Greninja, and 2-1-2 Kingdra, that's a lot of cards already. There probably isn't the room, but I figured I'd try to get some feedback on it.
Mora said:
Yes, using Genesect for Red Signal. I probably should have said something about that. Good point though, Might not need them in the first place. Could be interesting for pulling up and stalling, but going with actual catchers and the coin flip might be worth it if that's all they're for.
Regirocket said:
I actually think sniping decks can make the best use of catcher like cards. Just drag out something with a high retreat cost and snipe around them. It's also good for dealing with those pesky Mr Mimes.
Of course, I don't know how effective the first strategy would be with Darkrai and Float Stone in the format.
What about a 3-1-3 greninja and maybe a 2-1-2 dusknoir line for all those pesky 70/100 hp bench sitters? You can place 2-3 water shrukien and then use 1 more and sinister hand to get the 10 needed damage could prove useful for stuff like mr. Mime, emolga, Garbodor, terrakian ect. Not sure what to use as a main attacker though make keldeo or mewtwo?
Regirocket said:
I hadn't thought about Catcher stalling; it could prove useful. (By the way, I'm referring to Catcher and Red Signal interchangeably.)
Cortel II said:
If we're talking about just Greninja/Dusknoir, sounds decent. The only thing I can see being a problm is I don't know if Greninja's attack plus it's Ability will be enough damage. If it's Greninja/Dusknoir plus something like Empoleon or Kingdra, I think it's too much. That's three Stage 2's, and I'd rather just bite the bullet and waste damage.
Yeah thats what I thought, by itself Greninja can dish out 80 per turn. Thats why I thought maybe Keldeo EX or Mewtwo EX for some decent damage output since they can all use water energy mainly Keldeo since it also has Rush in to deal with statuses.Mora said:
WARNING CRAZY IDEA!
How about Gyarados / Cofagrigus / Greninja (Gyarados from legendary treasures does 20 for each prize both players have taken). I already thought of Gyarados / Cofagrigus, but it needs another attacker to put on the early pressure. Greninja is perfect. The basic idea: put some damage on the board with Greninja and Cofagrigus's ability. This should make it much easier for Greninja to take prizes via it's attack (which isn't a great attack, but it's acceptable here). Late game, both players should have taken enough prizes for Gyarados to sweep.
How about Gyarados / Cofagrigus / Greninja (Gyarados from legendary treasures does 20 for each prize both players have taken). I already thought of Gyarados / Cofagrigus, but it needs another attacker to put on the early pressure. Greninja is perfect. The basic idea: put some damage on the board with Greninja and Cofagrigus's ability. This should make it much easier for Greninja to take prizes via it's attack (which isn't a great attack, but it's acceptable here). Late game, both players should have taken enough prizes for Gyarados to sweep.
Gyarados/Cofagrigus/Greninja? Sounds interesting. Shaymin EX seems like it would be a solid tech against Blastoise for Revenge Blast in that kind of deck If you have the deck space for it cause you're going to be running at least 20 Pokemon in that deck If not more.
This thing could see play just on its own. With 2 eggs and 4 energy in the discard, assuming you have all your ninjas up, you can SER for 120. Combine that with a Muscle Band-boosted attack and you have 190 to active. Enough to kill an EX and snipe for 10 or seriously wound a Mega.
I was gonna say Lando as a possible back-up attacker. Running Greninja on its own is something I'm not willing to do when you rely on Trainers like no other and Trevenant is already gaining hype. You can spread 60 from the get-go while evolving Greninja on the Bench, (as well as Dusknoir), and start optimizing damage output that way.
KyuNinja said:
Seems like it would be a good idea. Frozen City is never a bad card in decks with Plasma attackers. Especially with this deck, where spreading little amounts of damage is already the focus of the deck.
(Note: I have not read anything, just posting my opinion on this card.)
Greninja isn't a bad attacker. It can do 50 damage in one turn with one Energy, meaning that it takes two energy to do 80 damage. Although Keldeo-EX can do more damage, the Water Energy has to be attached to Keldeo. Not to mention that for the same amount of Energy, Keldeo can't do anything. So, Keldeo takes 2 turns to setup in order to do a minimum of 50 damage, whereas Greninja takes 1 turn to do 80 damage. Yeah... I will put this card in my deck.
Greninja isn't a bad attacker. It can do 50 damage in one turn with one Energy, meaning that it takes two energy to do 80 damage. Although Keldeo-EX can do more damage, the Water Energy has to be attached to Keldeo. Not to mention that for the same amount of Energy, Keldeo can't do anything. So, Keldeo takes 2 turns to setup in order to do a minimum of 50 damage, whereas Greninja takes 1 turn to do 80 damage. Yeah... I will put this card in my deck.