BW/BW2 Interesting Interview With Gamefreak; No Pokemon Gray? Doubtful
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Well tell me, how do you know the world is not round? How do you know that it is? It's commonly accepted that it is in fact round, there's scientific evidence based on observation about the earth itself, there's common belief by people who have seen the earth from space. But is it round? I think it is, but tell me why. I bet you can't 
. To take another example, think of gravity. Gravity, we accept through observations and implication of the universe is the attraction between two objects based on their mass/inertia. People of old thought it to be objects falling to the ground because they could not observe space/the heavens/whatever, earth was all they knew. But can you prove either? Heck gravity could be pixies pulling objects in a certain direction, but since we can't observe those pixies, we don't believe that sort of theory to be true. So how do you know what gravity is? You don't know what it is, you only know what you perceive it to be. If you can see the world is round with your eyes, then to you the world is round, that is a fact to you. If someone else perceives the world to be flat or triangular based because they saw it with their eyes, that is a fact to them. Neither you nor they can see the same, and thus the world is neither flat, round, or triangular to both of you. The universe works to each of us as relativism, the idea first recorded by Einstein when he observed that an object moving in a certain direction appears different to two different people if they are standing in different positions away from that object. As humans I'm sure we want to believe that there is an all-righteous fact of the universe, many people past and present have used entities like god(s) to fill that vice. But that's irrelevant, you need to understand the concept as it applies here to Pokémon games.
If you play a Pokémon game, and you don't like it, let's say you call it bad. You perceive it as bad because you don't like it, it's a direct relationship, maybe because you found the game to be tedious, repetitive, or something else. Now if someone else plays that same game in the same exact setting, and enjoys the game enough to say it's good, to them it's perceived to be good because maybe they found it entertaining, engaging, etc. But to say that game is good or bad, one or the other – to make that entity an absolute, all-righteous fact, is impossible. Why? Because two people believe separate things – it's good relative to one person, and bad relative to the other. Even if 99% of the world population though the game was good, it's still not good because it's only relative to that 99%, likewise the game is only bad relative to the other 1%. Let's go back to Einstein's example. If two people are standing on opposite sides of a car for example, front and back of it, and the car moves, one person will see the car coming closer, and the other will see the car moving father away. So can we make an all-righteous absolute assumption that the car is moving away, if one person still sees the car as coming closer? Even if five billion people are standing so that they see the car moving away, if there's at least ONE person standing so that the car appears to moving closer, can we assume the car is moving away? NO! Then you'd look like the person in denial, not me! I see that this concept is a little hard to comprehend for you folks, but it defines everything, Pokémon included.
@catutie: Reading your other post I came across, you say a game can be labeled good or bad. You defeated yourself again. Even if a game is labeled bad, if cannot be bad. Even if a game is labeled by somebody or a group of people as anything, it can't be anything. A label does not make an absolute, because there's no such thing as an absolute. A "be" that applies to all people does hence does not exist. We all perceive reality differently, even if our perceptions are similar, we cannot assume an absolute. See above.
. To take another example, think of gravity. Gravity, we accept through observations and implication of the universe is the attraction between two objects based on their mass/inertia. People of old thought it to be objects falling to the ground because they could not observe space/the heavens/whatever, earth was all they knew. But can you prove either? Heck gravity could be pixies pulling objects in a certain direction, but since we can't observe those pixies, we don't believe that sort of theory to be true. So how do you know what gravity is? You don't know what it is, you only know what you perceive it to be. If you can see the world is round with your eyes, then to you the world is round, that is a fact to you. If someone else perceives the world to be flat or triangular based because they saw it with their eyes, that is a fact to them. Neither you nor they can see the same, and thus the world is neither flat, round, or triangular to both of you. The universe works to each of us as relativism, the idea first recorded by Einstein when he observed that an object moving in a certain direction appears different to two different people if they are standing in different positions away from that object. As humans I'm sure we want to believe that there is an all-righteous fact of the universe, many people past and present have used entities like god(s) to fill that vice. But that's irrelevant, you need to understand the concept as it applies here to Pokémon games.If you play a Pokémon game, and you don't like it, let's say you call it bad. You perceive it as bad because you don't like it, it's a direct relationship, maybe because you found the game to be tedious, repetitive, or something else. Now if someone else plays that same game in the same exact setting, and enjoys the game enough to say it's good, to them it's perceived to be good because maybe they found it entertaining, engaging, etc. But to say that game is good or bad, one or the other – to make that entity an absolute, all-righteous fact, is impossible. Why? Because two people believe separate things – it's good relative to one person, and bad relative to the other. Even if 99% of the world population though the game was good, it's still not good because it's only relative to that 99%, likewise the game is only bad relative to the other 1%. Let's go back to Einstein's example. If two people are standing on opposite sides of a car for example, front and back of it, and the car moves, one person will see the car coming closer, and the other will see the car moving father away. So can we make an all-righteous absolute assumption that the car is moving away, if one person still sees the car as coming closer? Even if five billion people are standing so that they see the car moving away, if there's at least ONE person standing so that the car appears to moving closer, can we assume the car is moving away? NO! Then you'd look like the person in denial, not me! I see that this concept is a little hard to comprehend for you folks, but it defines everything, Pokémon included.
@catutie: Reading your other post I came across, you say a game can be labeled good or bad. You defeated yourself again. Even if a game is labeled bad, if cannot be bad. Even if a game is labeled by somebody or a group of people as anything, it can't be anything. A label does not make an absolute, because there's no such thing as an absolute. A "be" that applies to all people does hence does not exist. We all perceive reality differently, even if our perceptions are similar, we cannot assume an absolute. See above.
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