Is 'Delta Emerald' the TCG's XY5 Set? [6/23]

Mitja said:
Still kinda wish they would do something unexpected with it in the games though.

ORAS will feel so half-assed/lazy to me without the proper story told.. (since they're pretty much copy pasting grunt dialogues from RS lol).
I don't see any solution other than having a third game (which would then of course need to be very different from ORAS unlike the initial Emerald).
It's not like they could shove in the bigger climax with Rayquaza in the post-game.

But being realistic, they really might just be okay with it because remakes are just filler material or something lol
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This is off-topic, but yeah a lot of the dialogue will be taken from Ruby and Sapphire because these are remakes, that's what remakes do. Also, I don't understand what you mean by "proper story", as far I can tell, the story will mostly be the same with some differences.

I'm not going to pretend like I know what GF will do, but I'm not expecting a third game. It could be something to do with the tcg, which would be cool since it would seem they would bring back the delta mechanic, but I honestly think it's a trademark cover.
 
The best scenario for me would be Delta Emerald being a video game, implementing delta types in the VG, and having Mew/Arceus/Rayquazza be the main Pokémon while the games take place in Holon. The evil team could be trying to make every Pokémon be a dark/poison type or something.

Holon Confirmed.
 
If you look back to the ex Era of the tcg you may notice how "ex pokemon" came out then "delta pokemon" came out. so i wouldnt b surprised if they did it again. Ex Ruby and Sapphire-(10 Sets later)- Ex Delta Species. BW Next Destinies-(12 sets later)- XY Delta Emerald(maybe). on top of that the original delta species was released during the ruby/sapphire/emerald games. but alas this could al be extremely wrong...
 
I really hope they get of EXs... I know they probably won't, but the holo pattern on them is so extraordinarily lame compares to LV X, ex, legends, etc.
 
I would really love to see Delta pokemon, and I would also like to see dual type pokemon. Didn't they combine the original 6 types with Darkness to make the Team Rocket Pokemon, or Team Aqua and Team Magma pokemon? Wasn't the more rare Delta Species pokemon combined with Metal?

I also see that some of the cards in the later ex sets have 2 resistances.
 
I don't think it has anything to do with the card game. Mainly because there are so many mega evolutions that still need to be revealed and it seems like they use at least one in the set name/art. However, if Emerald does get a remake (which I believe to be extremely likely) I could see a set being named after that game to introduce those mega starters. I still don't think they would name the set exactly the same as the game or bring back delta cards due to the recent introudction of the mega mechanism.
 
This is kinda... disappointing... Honestly, I was expecting the next set to be called OmegaRuby and Alpha Sapphire (or in japan, Omega Collection and Alpha Collection) as usual... Making the set that is supposed to promote the RS remake be called Delta Emerald it's kind of provoking... I was really hoping for an Emerald remake and not only it's doesn't make sense for the set to have "Emerald" in its name, it's weird to re-introduce Delta species right in the first set... Maybe, like someone said, this is not the next set but a future set instead...
Also, regarding the interruption of the XY block, maybe that's not going to happen... Back in 3rd gen, when FRLG were released between RS and Emerald, the corresponding TCG set didn't start a new block, it was just that set, and then the TRR set (which was released after the Deoxys set actually in japan)... Then, they released the johto themed set and then, the Delta sets started...
It's true that the only gen 6 pokémon missing in the TCG is Zygarde (Diancie doesn't count) and it may appear in Phantom Gate. With all gen 6 pokémon having a card, they can indeed start a new block, and then, when they release the third gen 6 game, go back to Kalos-themed sets...
 
Metalizard said:
This is kinda... disappointing... Honestly, I was expecting the next set to be called OmegaRuby and Alpha Sapphire (or in japan, Omega Collection and Alpha Collection) as usual... Making the set that is supposed to promote the RS remake be called Delta Emerald it's kind of provoking... I was really hoping for an Emerald remake and not only it's doesn't make sense for the set to have "Emerald" in its name, it's weird to re-introduce Delta species right in the first set... Maybe, like someone said, this is not the next set but a future set instead...
Also, regarding the interruption of the XY block, maybe that's not going to happen... Back in 3rd gen, when FRLG were released between RS and Emerald, the corresponding TCG set didn't start a new block, it was just that set, and then the TRR set (which was released after the Deoxys set actually in japan)... Then, they released the johto themed set and then, the Delta sets started...
It's true that the only gen 6 pokémon missing in the TCG is Zygarde (Diancie doesn't count) and it may appear in Phantom Gate. With all gen 6 pokémon having a card, they can indeed start a new block, and then, when they release the third gen 6 game, go back to Kalos-themed sets...
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In Japan, the sets that corresponded to EX Ruby and Sapphire, EX Sandstorm, EX Dragon, EX Team Magma and Team Aqua, and EX Hidden Legends were part of the ADV series, whlie the sets that corresponded to EX firered and leafgreen all the way to EX Power Keepers, with the exception of EX Emerald and EX Power Keepers, because those sets aren't based off of any Japanese sets, are part of the PCG series.

Here is what I think will happen. Depending on if they want ORAS to last 2 years or not, I am thinking around 4 or 8 sets of ORAS, and 8 or 4 sets of Z respectively.

WIth the third generation, in the international market, it was named EX Ruby and Sapphire, EX FIrered Leafgreen EX Emerald. All of the sets in that series had an EX in it, and none of the games based off of them had an EX in its name.

In the fourth, and fifth, and so far in the sixth generation, we have sets like Diamond and Pearl, Platinum, Heartgold Soulsilver, Black and White, and XY. Each of the sets in the series that isn't the first set has that name, followed by a subtitle, like Diamond and Pearl Mysterious Treasures, Platinum Rising Rivals, Heartgold Soulsilver (HS) Unleashed, Black and White Emerging Powers, and XY Flashfire. Even if the sets that are supposed to be based off Black 2 and White 2 are still in the Black and White series, the Black and White logo in Boundaries crossed look different with the blue in black and the red in white that it sort of ties in to the Black 2 and White 2 games. This leads me to believe that the sets in 2015 are going to have the ORAS name in them, and not stick with the XY name. This also makes me believe they are going to use the Z name after the ORAS name, assumig the third game is going to be called Pokemon Z. They might throw a curveball at us and rather than Z, they would release Delta Emerald instead, and therefore the TCG would use the Delta Emerald brand.
 
Here's some speculation: what if Delta Emerald is our Pokémon Z?

While Rayquazza is much more associated to emeralds than Zygarde, think about it. Zygarde lives underground. Emeralds form underground. Zygarde is also green, the same color as most emeralds. One of its pokedex enteries talks about "Revealing its secret power". Could this have something to do with Emeralds? Just an unlikely thought, but it would be completely unexpected if they made a Delta Emerald game with Zygarde as its mascot.
 
Reggie McGigas said:
Here's some speculation: what if Delta Emerald is our Pokémon Z?

While Rayquazza is much more associated to emeralds than Zygarde, think about it. Zygarde lives underground. Emeralds form underground. Zygarde is also green, the same color as most emeralds. One of its pokedex enteries talks about "Revealing its secret power". Could this have something to do with Emeralds? Just an unlikely thought, but it would be completely unexpected if they made a Delta Emerald game with Zygarde as its mascot.
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They can do that german accent and go Z delta emerald, or go rapper talk and go "yo yo delta emeraldz dawg".

What would all your reactions be if they released a Pokemon that is a fusion of Rayquaza and Zygarde, thus combining Z and Delta Emerald together?
 
Metalizard said:
It's true that the only gen 6 pokémon missing in the TCG is Zygarde (Diancie doesn't count) and it may appear in Phantom Gate. With all gen 6 pokémon having a card, they can indeed start a new block, and then, when they release the third gen 6 game, go back to Kalos-themed sets...
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We're missing some of the mega evolutions. I really doubt they only introduce a few and then go back to making older cards. Especially with Diancie being revealed and Volcanion and Hoopa coming. With that being said, I do expect them to introduce Primal Groudon and Kyogre into the card game along with Sceptile, Swampert, and Blaziken.
 
Man, I would be really really surprised if delta Pokemon actually came back to the TCG. I'd probably be really ecstatic if the cards were actually good like they were before as well. I feel like that era was one of, if not the best in the TCG IMO. And it would also give me a reason to return to the game and have a purpose for my username again. ;p

dmaster out.
 
lgill said:
Metalizard said:
It's true that the only gen 6 pokémon missing in the TCG is Zygarde (Diancie doesn't count) and it may appear in Phantom Gate. With all gen 6 pokémon having a card, they can indeed start a new block, and then, when they release the third gen 6 game, go back to Kalos-themed sets...
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We're missing some of the mega evolutions. I really doubt they only introduce a few and then go back to making older cards. Especially with Diancie being revealed and Volcanion and Hoopa coming. With that being said, I do expect them to introduce Primal Groudon and Kyogre into the card game along with Sceptile, Swampert, and Blaziken.
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So? I've said this already... what does have Mega Evolutions to do with anything? ORAS is introducing even more Megas, it's obvious they're going to continue the Mega-EX cards mechanic in future sets:rolleyes:...
 
I believe that there are a few Mega-Evo pokemon not made into a card yet, and I think that due to the fact that ORAS are two different games, they could make a Delta Emerald set for the sole purpose of combining the two into one for the TCG, but although they will likely focus on Rayquaza there, they might focus more on electric-types in the process(maybe including Mega Ampharos-EX, which isn't an actual card yet), and giving Rayquaza an attack that requires some electric energy to use, but I doubt they will actually include Delta species within it, and if they did, it could be a 1-3 set affair before they go away from the Delta species and back towards Kalos-themed Mega-Evo cards for Pokemon Z, which could serve as three reprint-laden sets with the main focus on two or more TCG types in a manner akin to BW's Legendary Treasures, or even make the Z set(s) focus on Zygarde and/or the three XY event-exclusive pokemon along with said reprints, before a new handheld takes over when the calandar flips to 2016, and the first of the seventh pokemon generation's respective card sets as well...

^ Of course, just my opinion in regards to delta emerald, you are the judge on whether it's right or wrong, but as it's my opinion, I don't care about how realistic it is. After all, my projection, my opinion, may or may not be true, but don't hold it against me...
 
Metalizard said:
lgill said:
We're missing some of the mega evolutions. I really doubt they only introduce a few and then go back to making older cards. Especially with Diancie being revealed and Volcanion and Hoopa coming. With that being said, I do expect them to introduce Primal Groudon and Kyogre into the card game along with Sceptile, Swampert, and Blaziken.
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So? I've said this already... what does have Mega Evolutions to do with anything? ORAS is introducing even more Megas, it's obvious they're going to continue the Mega-EX cards mechanic in future sets:rolleyes:...
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You said the only gen 6 cards we don't have are Zygarde and Diancie.. That's not true counting the mega evolutions we don't have, Hoopa, and Volcanion :p My point was that they still have mega cards to release so I believe the first set that comes out after the games may not have the older pokemon in it. Just my opinion :)
 
And what I said is true. Megas are not new pokémon (believe me, I wished they were, but they're not)... Also, why do you think they're releasing ~2 Megas per set? It's obvious they want the mechanic to last long enough to cover the entire generation...
And why would the next set not have older pokémon? The TCG sets themed after main games sometimes include Pokémon that can't even be caught natively in those games...
 
We of course have the (unaswerable) question of how long this generation will last. I'm pretty sure that the BW generation was very short compared to the original RSE generation, which I believe also encompassed FRLG. Given as this generation had about half as less Pokemon as other generations, I can't see it lasting as long unless something drastic is done with the potential third installment game of XY.
 
Looking at TCG's, third generation lasted 4 years, 4th generation lasted 4 years, 5th generation lasted 3 years.

The announcement of ORAS was kind of a curveball to me, because I expected the XY series to last 2 years, but it seems that the XY series might have to last a single year, with the ORAS series to last I don't know how many years.

I predict 4 years worth of generation 6 sets, considering the generations that have remakes in them lasted 4 years, with generation 5 lasting 3 years because it doesn't have any remakes in them.

Let's check out japan release of the games, each of which were released in the late quarter of the year.

Red and Green released in 1996
Gold and Silver released in 1999
Ruby and Sapphire released in 2002
Diamond and Pearl released in 2006
Black and White released in 2010
X and Y released in 2013
First game in generation 7 probably released in 2017

Looking at the release years, the generations without remakes lasted 3 years, while the generations with remakes lasted 4 years, so I predict we will be seeing 2 years worth of Z sets in 2016 and 2017, and we'll probably see a game related to Pokemon X and Y late 2017. Something like a Pokemon Z or Pokemon X2 Y2.
 
At this rate I expect Generation 7 to release in 2016, and that's if we actually get a Z or some kind of other 6th generation game(s.) Pokemon's been releasing games at a consistent yearly rate since B2W2 and I feel like they'll be continuing to operate at this speed.
 
Meaty said:
At this rate I expect Generation 7 to release in 2016, and that's if we actually get a Z or some kind of other 6th generation game(s.) Pokemon's been releasing games at a consistent yearly rate since B2W2 and I feel like they'll be continuing to operate at this speed.
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I wouldn't say that they are for sure going to release Generation 7 in 2017, but the past shows that generations without remakes last 3 years, and generations with remakes last 4 years. This is true in Japan, and it doesn't matter what happens in North America or Europe.

Look at the Japanese release schedule

1996
1999
2002
2006
2010
2013

So since we have ORAS, it is to suggest that Generation 7 would be released in the end of 2017. I wouldn't say that this is true, but this is more likely to happen.

A game like B2W2 could be similar to the third versions of the other generations.

I will predict generation 6 would be similar to generation 3, where we get one year of Ruby and Sapphire, 1 year of Firered and Leafgreen, and 2 years of Emerald. Out of all the times we had remakes, all of them lasted one year, and after that we would get a third version, or the generation would be over.

You may also be right where they pull off a Call of Duty. Doing it that way helps with the TCG, because each series would be the same number of sets, making rotation much easier.
 
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